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So I've been doing research for the past few weeks on why my gpu is underperforming so much. I'm playing CSGO on the helios 300, 8gb ram, i7 7700hq, and I'm only getting <120fps in game with max settings. Lowering the settings didn't help either. I've tried running benchmarks for both CPU and GPU. Cinebench score is 719, 3DMark Firestrike got a score of 9928. Can anyone PLEASE help me. Thanks.

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What are you comparing the GPU to that you think it's underperforming?

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5 minutes ago, dizmo said:

What are you comparing the GPU to that you think it's underperforming?

To other GTX 1060s. Game debate says that i'm suppose to be getting around 180fps. Some of the youtube videos even suggest they can reach 300fps with no problem whatsoever. So i don't know what's my problem

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 I have a helios 300, you should be getting higher fps. Check to see thermal throttling, mwbye reapply paste tou your laptop?

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But what makes you think that it is GPU bottleneck? If turning settings down didn't help the FPS, it's likely that you ar experiencing CPU bottleneck. What are your temps? Have you set the performance mode to high performance?

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3 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

 I have a helios 300, you should be getting higher fps. Check to see thermal throttling, mwbye reapply paste tou your laptop?

Already did that :) No throttling, gpu goes up to around 1850mhz while gaming at 70+ degrees celsius

3 minutes ago, Quadriplegic said:

But what makes you think that it is GPU bottleneck? If turning settings down didn't help the FPS, it's likely that you ar experiencing CPU bottleneck. What are your temps? Have you set the performance mode to high performance?

Already did that too :) 

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In csgo do you have panorama ui? Ot lowers your fps by quite a bit. What api are you using?

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have you tried underclocking and then overclocking your GPU? I was just in a thread where someone tried that and it adjusted their performance, and it was also with a 1060.

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3 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

In csgo do you have panorama ui? Ot lowers your fps by quite a bit. What api are you using?

Sry but what is that? And how do i know what api am i using? Is it like the directx version? If it is then it's dx12

2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

have you tried underclocking and then overclocking your GPU? I was just in a thread where someone tried that and it adjusted their performance, and it was also with a 1060.

Never did any of that. Shouldn't i get those frame rates even before i OC?

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36 minutes ago, Redhong98 said:

Cinebench score is 719, 3DMark Firestrike got a score of 9928. 

These seem about right; similar to what TH got: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/acer-predator-helios-300-gaming-laptop,5224-2.html

 

CS:GO recently got updated with the panorama UI, and its likely that the benchmarks you are comparing against were using the old UI. Try benching with a different game.

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3 minutes ago, Redhong98 said:

Never did any of that. Shouldn't i get those frame rates even before i OC?

im not talking a real OC, just a tiny one to force the right frequencies

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4 minutes ago, Redhong98 said:

If it is then it's dx12

Not possible, CS:GO is dx9.

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2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

im not talking a real OC, just a tiny one to force the right frequencies

So how much i should push it in Afterburner then?

1 minute ago, sazrocks said:

Not possible, CS:GO is dx9.

oh you meant for the game, yeah dx9.

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1 minute ago, Redhong98 said:

So how much i should push it in Afterburner then?

like 50 MHz. real small to make sure the frequency is accurate.

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2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

like 50 MHz. real small to make sure the frequency is accurate.

50mhz is less than 5%, not going to make a difference.

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1 minute ago, KarathKasun said:

50mhz is less than 1%, not going to make a difference.

like i said, it is solely to ensure accurate frequency, not a performance boost.

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2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

like i said, it is solely to ensure accurate frequency, not a performance boost.

Define accurate frequency?  There is no solid frequency rating for Pascal, boost numbers depend on power/thermals.  And the 1-2% difference isnt going to change anything.

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4 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

Define accurate frequency?  There is no solid frequency rating for Pascal, boost numbers depend on power/thermals.  And the 1-2% difference isnt going to change anything.

I was in a thread where someone's card wasn't behaving properly, it was at an extremely low frequency. after adjusting the voltage it worked normally. that's all i was suggesting.

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So i just tried Fortnite, i was getting 40-60fps on epic settings so yeah... Gpu temps peaked at 84

 

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stupid question... are you plugged into the wall outlet with your charger? 

few days ago, got myself an asus rog i7 gtx 760 and i am not getting high temps, but it's a jet engine inside this lol. anyways, i was getting 30-40 fps without being plugged in, and instantly though "why... did i just spend 1400 for this... only to realize my power settings were balanced and i had to manually set all the settings to "max performance" i did get more FPS on many benchmarks. however, re-running those benchmarks while plugged in, my FPS was an additional 60 or so on certain games/bench marks.

Edit: not 760, a 1060. sorry, i'm tired.

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2 minutes ago, DJCoffeex said:

stupid question... are you plugged into the wall outlet with your charger? 

few days ago, got myself an asus rog i7 gtx 760 and i am not getting high temps, but it's a jet engine inside this lol. anyways, i was getting 30-40 fps without being plugged in, and instantly though "why... did i just spend 1400 for this... only to realize my power settings were balanced and i had to manually set all the settings to "max performance" i did get more FPS on many benchmarks. however, re-running those benchmarks while plugged in, my FPS was an additional 60 or so on certain games/bench marks.

I get where you're coming from hahaha, but i am plugged in. 

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1 minute ago, Firewrath9 said:

@DJCoffeex younhave a 760 that you just bought? That things 5 years old

Sorry, i edited the post a minute after i re-read it. 1060.

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1 hour ago, Quadriplegic said:

But what makes you think that it is GPU bottleneck? If turning settings down didn't help the FPS, it's likely that you ar experiencing CPU bottleneck. What are your temps? Have you set the performance mode to high performance?

7700HQ will not bottleneck a 1060.

 

47 minutes ago, Redhong98 said:

So i just tried Fortnite, i was getting 40-60fps on epic settings so yeah... Gpu temps peaked at 84

It could be a thermal issue, can you check if it's throttling?

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12 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

7700HQ will not bottleneck a 1060.

 

It could be a thermal issue, can you check if it's throttling?

The gpu didnt thermal throttle at all, stayed under 90C, but the cpu did reach 91C, and dropping back to its base 2.8 ghz instead of boosting at 3.4 ghz, but that doesn't mean that it's throttling right? it's only dropping to it's base clock speed

 

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