Will a GTX 1050ti run on a 240W power supply with a i7 2600 and 16gb of ram ?

[Lewi2995]

Will a GTX 1050ti run on a 240W power supply with a i7 2600 and 16gb of ddr3 ram ?

[Jon Jon]

2 minutes ago, Lewi2995 said:

Will a GTX 1050ti run on a 240W power supply with a i7 2600 and 16gb of ddr3 ram ?

I would say no.

 

Even NVIDIA recommends a 300W minimum.

 

https://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-1050-ti/specifications

[Brooksie359]

Not gonna work. That is not enough watts. 

[Lewi2995]

What will happen?

will it just not run

[Lewi2995]

Will it make a difference if its a low profile 

[Lewi2995]

6 minutes ago, Jon Jon said:

I would say no.

 

Even NVIDIA recommends a 300W minimum.

 

https://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-1050-ti/specifications

Will it make a difference if it’s a Zotac low profile 

[Jon Jon]

1 minute ago, Lewi2995 said:

Will it make a difference if it’s a Zotac low profile 

It won't.

 

You need a beefier power supply.

 

You can honestly find decent 80+ Bronze rated 400W-450W power supplies for sub $40 regularly on sale.

 

The power supply is the most important component, so don't skimp on it.

[Fred_B]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817139201

This should do the job.

[Lewi2995]

6 minutes ago, Jon Jon said:

It won't.

 

You need a beefier power supply.

 

You can honestly find decent 80+ Bronze rated 400W-450W power supplies for sub $40 regularly on sale.

 

The power supply is the most important component, so don't skimp on it.

I have a z210 sff workstation will it be possible to take out the existing power supply for a new 400-450W power supply

[Jon Jon]

4 minutes ago, Lewi2995 said:

I have a z210 sff workstation will it be possible to take out the existing power supply for a new 400-450W power supply

You'd have to research the form factor and see what's compatible with it.

 

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c02791346 is what I found, assuming this is what you are upgrading.

[Lewi2995]

2 minutes ago, Jon Jon said:

You'd have to research the form factor and see what's compatible with it.

 

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c02791346 is what I found, assuming this is what you are upgrading.

Yes I know it’s not a very balls to the wall PC, however it’s what I have a want to make the best out of it for gaming on a  budget.

Also I had just as a general graphics card a amd Radeon r7 240 would the power supply handle that ok

[Jon Jon]

7 minutes ago, Lewi2995 said:

Yes I know it’s not a very balls to the wall PC, however it’s what I have a want to make the best out of it for gaming on a  budget.

Also I had just as a general graphics card a amd Radeon r7 240 would the power supply handle that ok

Reference @Fred_B's post. That's an amazing deal. See if that will fit into your case and pick that up along with the GTX 1050 ti.

[Fasauceome]

considering the custom form factor pc, I think it would be more worth it to take the guts out and put them in a proper ATX case. I bet the cpu cooler is awful, given the confined space, 95W TDP of the cpu, and old design. you could probably drop $25 on a decent case, and $30 on an PSU, then you're golden.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BfDzK8/corsair-vs-400w-80-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020117-na

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vYp323/cougar-mx330-atx-mid-tower-case-mx330

 

these seem nice.

[Frankenburger]

Despite what everyone is saying, yes, it should work as long as you don't do any overclocking. The GTX 1050ti only consumes 75w under full load, and the i7 2600 only consumes about 90w at full load. Figure about an extra 20-30w at most for your fans and HDDs, you're looking at a total system power draw of about 195w with both your CPU and GPU at 100% load.

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/21

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti,4787-6.html

[Fasauceome]

1 hour ago, Frankenburger said:

Despite what everyone is saying, yes, it should work as long as you don't do any overclocking. The GTX 1050ti only consumes 75w under full load, and the i7 2600 only consumes about 90w at full load. Figure about an extra 20-30w at most for your fans and HDDs, you're looking at a total system power draw of about 195w with both your CPU and GPU at 100% load.

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/21

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti,4787-6.html

keep in mind though, with these older OEM machines, the PSU isn't 80+ certified most of the time, so running high loads might cause problems. While load may be at 80%, that could cause trouble for a bad power supply.

[Frankenburger]

39 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

keep in mind though, with these older OEM machines, the PSU isn't 80+ certified most of the time, so running high loads might cause problems. While load may be at 80%, that could cause trouble for a bad power supply.

80+ certified is an indication of how efficient the PSU is and how much energy is wasted. If a 200w system is being powered by a PSU with an 80% efficiency, then that means 40w is being radiated as heat. If a PSU is not 80+ certified, that does not mean it's a bad or unreliable PSU.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus

 

Also, it seems you assume his CPU and GPU will be pegged on a regular basis, which in fact is extremely unlikely. Even if his 1050Ti is at full load, the highest CPU usage he'll be sitting at is probably around 65%-70% at worst given how most games barely utilize more than 3 cores. This means that while gaming, he will be well under 200w power consumption.

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, Frankenburger said:

80+ certified is an indication of how efficient the PSU is and how much energy is wasted. If a 200w system is being powered by a PSU with an 80% efficiency, then that means 40w is being radiated as heat. If a PSU is not 80+ certified, that does not mean it's a bad or unreliable PSU.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus

 

Also, it seems you assume his CPU and GPU will be pegged on a regular basis, which in fact is extremely unlikely. Even if his 1050Ti is at full load, the highest CPU usage he'll be sitting at is probably around 65%-70% at worst given how most games barely utilize more than 3 cores. This means that while gaming, he will be well under 200w power consumption.

non-certified CPUs give out at high loads explicitly because of their lack of efficiency. They get hot and try to push through too much power, and their components give out. Having an 80+ certified PSU not only increases longevity due to lower temperatures and smaller excessive wattage, but also increase performance due to reduced voltage ripple (although in this case that's probably not as big a factor)

[LienusLateTips]

5 hours ago, fasauceome said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BfDzK8/corsair-vs-400w-80-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020117-na

[Frankenburger]

6 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

non-certified CPUs give out at high loads explicitly because of their lack of efficiency. They get hot and try to push through too much power, and their components give out. Having an 80+ certified PSU not only increases longevity due to lower temperatures and smaller excessive wattage, but also increase performance due to reduced voltage ripple (although in this case that's probably not as big a factor)

Again, you're correlating efficiency with quality. The two are not mutually exclusive. An 80+ certified PSU can easily go out just as quickly as a non certified PSU.

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, LienusLateTips said:

Now i know the VS isn't the best line of power supplies, but it is actually the first 80+ certified model in that category I've seen.

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

Now i know the VS isn't the best line of power supplies, but it is actually the first 80+ certified model in that category I've seen.

The CX is only $10 more, actually $10 less if you count the rebate...

 

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, Frankenburger said:

Again, you're correlating efficiency with quality. The two are not mutually exclusive. An 80+ certified PSU can easily go out just as quickly as a non certified PSU.

Definitely not "just as quickly." While I understand the 80+ certification isn't just a magic barrier that protects your PC from all harm, it offers a security in power delivery that you can't be sure of out of other power supplies. My brother's computer used an xxxtra cheap 450W PSU from amazon, but it crapped out and he replaced it with a used 80+ bronze unit (after he replaced the motherboard it took with it.) It's not really worth saving 5 bucks to get an inferior power supply when there's a literal seal of quality attached to other PSUs. And yes, efficiency is a form of quality, even if it isn't the end-all be-all of what constitutes a good power supply.

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

The CX is only $10 more, actually $10 less if you count the rebate...

 

yeah I just checked off the 80+ filter on PCpartpicker and sorted low to high.

[LienusLateTips]

4 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Definitely not "just as quickly." While I understand the 80+ certification isn't just a magic barrier that protects your PC from all harm, it offers a security in power delivery that you can't be sure of out of other power supplies. My brother's computer used an xxxtra cheap 450W PSU from amazon, but it crapped out and he replaced it with a used 80+ bronze unit (after he replaced the motherboard it took with it.) It's not really worth saving 5 bucks to get an inferior power supply when there's a literal seal of quality attached to other PSUs. And yes, efficiency is a form of quality, even if it isn't the end-all be-all of what constitutes a good power supply.

No, it doesn't. You don't really need efficiency for higher quality. It's usually just you need higher quality for efficiency and to get that higher quality they might as well market it with higher efficiency. 

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, LienusLateTips said:

No, it doesn't. You don't really need efficiency for higher quality. It's usually just you need higher quality for efficiency and to get that higher quality they might as well market it with higher efficiency. 

Again, the lack of efficiency isn't quantified. If you are at like 75% efficiency at 80% load, you're in danger zone. This also applies to low wattages, so idling could stress the power supply unevenly. The whole point of the 80+ rating is to assure the power supply is working appropriately, not just working.