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Combining Graphics Card and Integrated Graphics

Computers Of God
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Hello everyone,

 

I Have a very old Graphics Card : ATI RADEON GRAPHICS and i wanted to know if it was possible to combine this Graphics Card with my outdated Intel Core i5 4th Gen

with integrated Graphics 5200. I am looking to upgrade my cpu to a 8th gen i5 but i am currently not using a graphics card, i have 8gb of ram. Gaming on this thing is honestly not great but i was wondering if i was able to combine this old graphics card with my cpu's integrated graphics to have better results. I'm looking to buy a external graphics card dock, the 50$ one.

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No, because AMD dual graphics (weak graphics card + iGPU) only works with a old graphics card and an APU (AMD's way of calling CPUs with iGPU)

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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19 minutes ago, Computers Of God said:

integrated Graphics 5200. I am looking to upgrade my cpu to a 8th gen i5

WAIT! Is that Iris Graphics 5200, something in laptop CPUs? You cant upgrade that to 8th gen i5 because new CPUs dont fit in your laptop.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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On 06/07/2018 at 3:11 PM, Jurrunio said:

WAIT! Is that Iris Graphics 5200, something in laptop CPUs? You cant upgrade that to 8th gen i5 because new CPUs dont fit in your laptop.

Hey thanks for the response.

I never sai i had a laptop, i have a computer i built myself but the only difference is that this build does not have a graphics card but the processor does come with integrated graphics, that's why i can do a little bit of gaming.

 

To reform my question, recently there is a company who manufactured external gpu slots that connect via pci-e slot. It happens i slit have a free slot on my motherboard so i was wondering, is it possible to combine this very old graphics card with the more recent integrated graphics to make 1 solid graphics output. i have seen people using multiple GPU's but not seen anyone mixing integrated graphics with a phisical graphics card. That's my question. And most laptop processors are soldered on the board anyways so it would be nearly impossible to upgrade that one :)

 

Here is a link to the product to give you an idea of what i'm talking about. These are supposed to be used on laptops but i wanted to give it a try on my build:

https://www.amazon.com/Laptop-External-PCI-Graphics-Card/dp/B00Q4VMLF6

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42 minutes ago, Computers Of God said:

I never sai i had a laptop, i have a computer i built myself but the only difference is that this build does not have a graphics card but the processor does come with integrated graphics, that's why i can do a little bit of gaming.

it might not be a laptop, but it isnt anything that can use desktop graphics cards directly without the help of any external dock right? The Intel 5200 Graphics only ships in CPUs with BGA packaging, in other words soldered to the motherboard and irreplaceable.

 

42 minutes ago, Computers Of God said:

To reform my question, recently there is a company who manufactured external gpu slots that connect via pci-e slot. It happens i slit have a free slot on my motherboard so i was wondering, is it possible to combine this very old graphics card with the more recent integrated graphics to make 1 solid graphics output. i have seen people using multiple GPU's but not seen anyone mixing integrated graphics with a phisical graphics card. That's my question. And most laptop processors are soldered on the board anyways so it would be nearly impossible to upgrade that one :)

 

Here is a link to the product to give you an idea of what i'm talking about. These are supposed to be used on laptops but i wanted to give it a try on my build:

https://www.amazon.com/Laptop-External-PCI-Graphics-Card/dp/B00Q4VMLF6

If your motherboard has mPCIe, then it might work. I know there are versions of external docks that connect to the motherboard using M.2 ports that support PCIe, but even that needs motherboard support first.

 

After that, you will need a desktop ATX/SFX power supply and desktop graphics card to power the external stuff. There will also be a performance hit because of low connection bandwidth, say 20-50% performance penalty. Therefore I'd say it's easier to just sell this thing and buy something that can use desktop graphics cards the proper way.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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