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i was planning on building OP pc with 2 sli GTX 1180ti's in the future when it comes out but i heard future GPU will completely ditch two-way SLI is that ture?

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Are you aware you're asking about a GPU that will probably only come around Q4 of 2020?

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1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Are you aware you're asking about a GPU that will probably only come around Q4 of 2020?

its not generally on the 11th gen gpu im talking future gpu's overall, is navdia completely removing the SLI feature on all future GPU's?

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No one knows cause NDA :D

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11 minutes ago, WereCat said:

I dont think so but SLI support in games seems to be pretty much dead so...

do you even read patch notes on drivers?

sli support for games always coming in still about same rate like always

also then again with sli you must be ready to tweak if you arent getting the performance you like from both cards at times

 

also here https://babeltechreviews.com/the-50-game-gtx-1070-ti-sli-review/3/

 

at op yes if you are going top card I would sli but we dont know what the future holds

I went 1080ti sli right away for the performance cause I knew i'd be skipping this coming gen

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definitely not being removed. SLI is supported by about 80% of current titles.

 

Keep in mind that on this forum there are many parrots who repeat incorrect statements such as "SLI is dead" "no games support SLI these days" etc, but if you spend 2 minutes doing your own research you'll see that these are 100% false, just uninformed people repeating each other.

 

2-way SLI will likely remain at least until we have single-card solutions that can drive 4k HDR 144 Hz displays around that same level of FPS. Even right now with the best possible SLI setup of 2x Titan Xp on water with power mods you still can't play higher-end games at max detail at 4k even at 100 fps reliably, and the best single-card solution of a Titan V, also on water and power modded is roughly 2/3rds of the performance of well-supported SLI Titan Xp's.

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1 hour ago, REVOLUCIONAR said:

I think not,but at the moment SLI/Crossfire isn't very useful.

this guy is a great example of the uninformed people I mentioned in my previous post. xD

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1 hour ago, REVOLUCIONAR said:

I think not,but at the moment SLI/Crossfire isn't very useful.

Neither is your knowledge. 

3 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Are you aware you're asking about a GPU that will probably only come around Q4 of 2020?

Where do you get your info? I'm not saying this is accurate but 

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-next-gen-graphics-card-pcb-leak/amp/

3 hours ago, WereCat said:

I dont think so but SLI support in games seems to be pretty much dead so...

Not as dead as your knowledge 

 

 

I'm so sick of people who don't answer op's posts on this forum and post their garbage opinion. So many tools on here that post just to post. 

 

As someone said earlier theirs no single card that can fully drive 4k monitors. With nvidia releasing 4k 144hz monitors this year the only proper way to drive them is SLI. Why release something that can't be utilized? They might start using nvlink. 

 

 

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Have you tried contacting nVIDIA yet? Not saying that this will do much, but it doesn't hurt to try xD Also, I don't see a reason for why nVIDIA would even consider removing the hardware feature (SLI) anytime soon. Until we can hit 4K/144fps or 5K/120fps with a single high-end card, SLI's probably here to stay (unless nVIDIA's just lost their minds). Just my 2 cents on the topic...

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1 hour ago, O9B0666 said:

Neither is your knowledge. 

Where do you get your info? I'm not saying this is accurate but 

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-next-gen-graphics-card-pcb-leak/amp/

Not as dead as your knowledge 

 

 

I'm so sick of people who don't answer op's posts on this forum and post their garbage opinion. So many tools on here that post just to post. 

 

As someone said earlier theirs no single card that can fully drive 4k monitors. With nvidia releasing 4k 144hz monitors this year the only proper way to drive them is SLI. Why release something that can't be utilized? They might start using nvlink. 

 

 

You're being unnecessarily rude.

 

First of all, I answered OPs question. I said "I think not". I haven't explained why I think so, so let me explain.

The one thing is what you said about 4k 144Hz, that's a good point.

The other thing is that if NVIDIA released the next flagship card without SLI and the performance  difference wouldn't be large, the current flagship SLI owners would not have that much reason to upgrade. And since these people also tend to upgrade often since they got money, NVIDIA would be just hurting themselves.

 

Now to why I think that SLI is pretty much dead.

This comes down to personal opinion.

 

From all the games that were released recently 2017-2018) not that many of them support SLI.

Yes, there are still games for which SLI support is being added, performance tweaked, etc... but the problem is that on release and often even months after release the performance scaling is abysmal (glory to few exceptions!).

How many from these games have at least 60% scaling?

Then how many from these games you actually play? If you play most of them then sure, go ahead, SLI is probably worth it to you at least somewhat. But most of the games I play don't have SLI support or the SLI support makes little sense if the game has 60FPS lock.

And I don't really care about games like Division, Assassins Creed or Ghost Recon Wildlands.

 

From all the 2017-2018 games with SLI support I played TWO.

 

The E3 this year was interesting for sure, I definitely hope the games announced will get decent SLI support. I am not against SLI but in its current state it's pretty much dead for me.

And for that reason, it's almost impossible for me to give unbiased opinion as whether you should buy into SLI or not is up to your wallet and preferences.

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7 minutes ago, WereCat said:

You're being unnecessarily rude.

 

First of all, I answered OPs question. I said "I think not". I haven't explained why I think so, so let me explain.

The one thing is what you said about 4k 144Hz, that's a good point.

The other thing is that if NVIDIA released the next flagship card without SLI and the performance  difference wouldn't be large, the current flagship SLI owners would not have that much reason to upgrade. And since these people also tend to upgrade often since they got money, NVIDIA would be just hurting themselves.

 

Now to why I think that SLI is pretty much dead.

This comes down to personal opinion.

 

From all the games that were released recently 2017-2018) not that many of them support SLI.

Yes, there are still games for which SLI support is being added, performance tweaked, etc... but the problem is that on release and often even months after release the performance scaling is abysmal (glory to few exceptions!).

How many from these games have at least 60% scaling?

Then how many from these games you actually play? If you play most of them then sure, go ahead, SLI is probably worth it to you at least somewhat. But most of the games I play don't have SLI support or the SLI support makes little sense if the game has 60FPS lock.

And I don't really care about games like Division, Assassins Creed or Ghost Recon Wildlands.

 

From all the 2017-2018 games with SLI support I played TWO.

 

The E3 this year was interesting for sure, I definitely hope the games announced will get decent SLI support. I am not against SLI but in its current state it's pretty much dead for me.

And for that reason, it's almost impossible for me to give unbiased opinion as whether you should buy into SLI or not is up to your wallet and preferences.

Well every post I look at someone just spews opinions not answering op question this forum is aids. 

 

If you think saying that is rude I wouldn't go to the store lol. That's far from rude. No it's not dead though games pick up sli compatibility and even if it doesn't say capable generally theirs still improvement. 

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Hi

 

SLI is not dead but it is pointless if the single card performance is not playable at the desired resolution.

 

I used 2 X 980 ti in my 4k rig. On games the didn't support SLI I had the drop the resolution to 1440.

If this was a 1440 144hz+ rig it would have been fine since most games that don't support SLI are 60hz.

 

I have 2 GTX 1080 tis. They will be in SLI if the next gen is worth getting before the ti version comes out. 

 

I have no trouble maintaining 60fps with a single GTX 1080 ti at 4k resolution. AA is not needed so it is more like 3 x 1080 than 4 x 1080.

The 2 x 1080 tis will be used for modded visual effects like ENB & Reshade.

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2 hours ago, O9B0666 said:

Where do you get your info? I'm not saying this is accurate but 

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-next-gen-graphics-card-pcb-leak/amp/

FYI he said GTX 1180 Ti <

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9 hours ago, saif96 said:

i was planning on building OP pc with 2 sli GTX 1180ti's in the future when it comes out but i heard future GPU will completely ditch two-way SLI is that ture?

Lemme locate my TARDIS and I'll get back to you on that. 

 

Jokes aside, it is unlikely that Nvidia will do away with 2-way SLI altogether. 3-way and 4-way SLI have, historically, seen very little gains in regards to anything outside benchmarks, and maybe Crysis. Developers have paid very minute attention to such systems running 3 or more cards, and so the downsides of 3-way and 4-way tend to greatly outweigh the benefits.

 

2-way SLI, on the other hand, is still quite viable. While it is usually preferable to obtain a single stronger card over two weak ones when available(within reason), SLI provides an avenue to push performance beyond single-flagship levels, which, as is the case for 4k 144 hz displays, may be a necessity, even accounting for the downsides.

 

The only other option being to wait for that performance, though given the slowed pace of card releases, SLI 1080TI owners are probably laughing.

 

My advice to OP: If the lifespan of the next gen of cards is going to be anywhere near as long as this gen, don't hesitate to go SLI.

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Well amd has ditched the bridge and nvidia will soon too,Now its done over software anyways.Sli and cf will still be able but if games support it in 5 years plus we have no idea.

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3 hours ago, andrewmp6 said:

amd has ditched the bridge and nvidia will soon too,

I think that's wrong because NVidia introduced some months ago the NVLink for the G...100 cards. And who doesn't like the look of multiple watercooled GPUs in a system, but the software is the other side of the coin.

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The NVLink is for the workstation cards not gaming.And honestly most games won't run more then 2 cards today.Even gta5 won't even load with 3 cards installed.With dx12 its left up to the game developer if they support more then one card.I hate to say most won't put in the extra work and probably will just support a single card.

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Doubt they would get rid of it. 

As resolutions continue to go up along with game requirements, it wouldn’t make sense. 

 

Cards are still too weak. 

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5 hours ago, andrewmp6 said:

The NVLink is for the workstation cards not gaming.And honestly most games won't run more then 2 cards today.Even gta5 won't even load with 3 cards installed.With dx12 its left up to the game developer if they support more then one card.I hate to say most won't put in the extra work and probably will just support a single card.

bolded what? guess there isnt bunch of videos out there with tri sli even 4 way

 

italic ok, so game developers do not work directly with nvidia hmmm, and are games being constantly patched and fixed after release

 

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On ‎6‎/‎26‎/‎2018 at 10:41 AM, saif96 said:

...GTX 1180ti...

 

On ‎6‎/‎26‎/‎2018 at 10:44 AM, Princess Cadence said:

Are you aware you're asking about a GPU that will probably only come around Q4 of 2020?

 Ugh.... I don't want to wait until 2021 for a new ti.  :(

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I see no reason why SLI would be dropped with Volta. There's no way Volta will be powerful enough to drive games at 4k + 144Hz, which is the new creme-de-la-creme, let alone the fact HDMI 2.1 allows for 60Hz 7680x4320. In order to sell these top tier displays, some of which Nvidia is manufacturing, SLI will be needed for a little-to-no compromise experience.

 

If SLI gets dropped, then it'll be for an in house evolution of multi GPUs. It wouldn't surprise me if Nvidia came out with a successor to SLI and called it something else to renew interest in multi-GPU systems, considering how much bad information and stigma is floating around SLI.

 

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