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I5 4460 with ddr3 better than i5 7400 drr3?

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Hi guys i want to change my cpu and i want to keep my ddr3 8gb ram

Is it better to buy an 4460 which officially support ddr3 or is it better to buy an i5 7400? (With the ddr3 1600 mhz)?

 

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I mean i5 4460 and i5 7400

 

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The 7400 isn't that much better, and there's definitely no reason to get a 7400. Either stick with what you have, or buy an i5-8400 (with a new motherboard and RAM) and sell your old parts.

 

Edit: Sorry, I misread. I thought you wanted to update from a 4460 to a 7400. Honestly, if you want to get a quad core I'd suggest selling your old stuff and getting an i3-8100, which you can upgrade later. It will probably cost you less since you can sell your old RAM, and an 8100 is faster than either the 4460 or 7400.

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Your DDR3 RAM modules will not be compatible with the motherboard for your i5 7400. You should buy DDR4 when you want to use a Kaby Lake CPU/motherboard (which is more expensive). 
No LGA 1151 motherboard support DDR3. One of the main features of LGA 1151 is that it uses DDR4 exclusively.

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3 minutes ago, Christophe Corazza said:

Your DDR3 RAM modules will not be compatible with the motherboard for your i5 7400. You should buy DDR4 when you want to use a Kaby Lake CPU/motherboard (which is more expensive). 
No LGA 1151 motherboard support DDR3. One of the main features of LGA 1151 is that it uses DDR4 exclusively.

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Motherboard-DDR3-2600-GA-Z170-HD3/dp/B013TAU4IU

 

They're rare, but they exist.

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2 minutes ago, Christophe Corazza said:

 

Holy $H!T o.O What kind of monstrosity is that :P

I didn't knew they existed!

They work with Coffeelake as well, if you hack the BIOS.

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30 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

They work with Coffeelake as well, if you hack the BIOS.

Using DDR3 1600 does hit the minimum frame rates in games heaviliy though.

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Barely, and you are better off just getting an; i7 4770/4770k, i7 4790/4790K or Xeon E3-1280 v3/v4 (it has to be either v3 or v4-and do a BIOS update if you plan on getting one).

 

Any one of them is far better in all tasks than the i5 7400

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On 21/06/2018 at 6:21 PM, Christophe Corazza said:

 

Holy $H!T o.O What kind of monstrosity is that :P

I didn't knew they existed!

That was me when I wanted to go with 1151. Saw that the G4560 supported DDR3 ram so I was like "F*CK YEAH", but I got a Haswell i5 anyway.

 

OP, don't get the i5 7400. Just not worth it at this point in time. Either get 8th gen or the 4460, if it cheap.

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13 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

Proof? https://pclab.pl/art65002-4.html

 

 

hmm where did I read that someone gained 20% better minimum frame rates by replacing DDR3 1600 to DDR4 3200 after the motherboard broke? I think it's some HardOCP post, but I cant find it anymore.

 

At least 10% is something.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

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I underclocked my RAM from 2133Mhz to 1600Mhz and that made a huge difference in gaming.

 

I didn't have stable 72 FPS in BF1 64 player multiplayer anymore and big explosions caused annoying stuttering. Watch Dogs 2 also stuttered badly while driving around city and the lowest FPS i saw was 43 FPS. CPU usage was 90-100%. I'd say minimum FPS was around 20-30% lower in CPU heavy games after underclocking RAM. My CPU is i7 6700 which is faster than i5 7400.

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3 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Motherboard-DDR3-2600-GA-Z170-HD3/dp/B013TAU4IU

 

They're rare, but they exist.

I remember those from Skylake launch, but I (incorrectly) assumed Kaby Lake would have dropped support for DDR3. After a quick visit to Ark apparently the 7400 does support DDR3 too... 

https://ark.intel.com/products/97147/Intel-Core-i5-7400-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz

 

I know ram pricing is still a pain point, but doing this to reuse only 8GB doesn't seem worth it. 

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9 minutes ago, porina said:

I remember those from Skylake launch, but I (incorrectly) assumed Kaby Lake would have dropped support for DDR3. After a quick visit to Ark apparently the 7400 does support DDR3 too... 

https://ark.intel.com/products/97147/Intel-Core-i5-7400-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz

 

I know ram pricing is still a pain point, but doing this to reuse only 8GB doesn't seem worth it. 

 

Indeed. It’s a nice piece of tech but I don’t see the point of it nowadays.

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