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Looking for a laptop for engineering

I am starting school in September for electronic engineering and the school im going to wants a fairly beefy laptop here are their minimum specs image.png.040643763dc553e9da2f29a1e939efe3.png 

on top of that i would like it to have the ability to be upgraded with an ssd and possibly more ram..pp preferably multiple nvme slots and a 2.5" sata drive bay

also looking for something that wont break that bank thanks

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1 minute ago, valdyrgramr said:

Any specific budget?

id say around 1000-1500(canadian) possibly more i guess it really depends on the laptop if it has something that i really like i wouldn't mind paying more

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From personal experience, I suggest ditching the HDD completely for an SSD.

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4 minutes ago, hambobolubia said:

id say around 1000-1500(canadian) possibly more i guess it really depends on the laptop if it has something that i really like i wouldn't mind paying more

Depending on the application you "might" benefit from a laptop with an 8750h in it, but the thing is something that beefy wouldn't be 1000-1500 Canadian the cheapest one I found was this thing.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834154829&cm_re=8750h_laptop-_-34-154-829-_-Product

Home AI/Game Development, and Music Editing Workstation:

Bloodshed and the Fenris-Wolf:  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fx3sNP

 

Mobile Workstation:

Ryu Hayabusa:  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/37bVz7

 

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Just now, Christophe Corazza said:

From personal experience, I suggest ditching the HDD completely for an SSD.

i have a very large steam library at the moment i belive it take about 800GB and i dont think that is feesable for an ssd aswell as id like to experiment with VMs 

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1 minute ago, hambobolubia said:

i have a very large steam library at the moment i belive it take about 800GB and i dont think that is feesable for an ssd aswell as id like to experiment with VMs 

 

800 GB... yeah... than it won't be reasonably "in budget" anymore xD

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5 minutes ago, hambobolubia said:

i have a very large steam library at the moment i belive it take about 800GB and i dont think that is feesable for an ssd aswell as id like to experiment with VMs 

Then get one with an ssd as a boot drive and an hdd or sshd as a storage drive.

Home AI/Game Development, and Music Editing Workstation:

Bloodshed and the Fenris-Wolf:  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fx3sNP

 

Mobile Workstation:

Ryu Hayabusa:  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/37bVz7

 

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You definitely want to have a CPU with decent single core performance (and turbo boost for that matter). Some of the software that you will be using during the first year(s) of engineering - MATLAB is an excellent example - is horribly single threaded.

 

28 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Then get one with an ssd as a boot drive and an ssd or sshd as a storage drive.

 

@hambobolubia's university mentions the HDD as a minimum requirement, but using an HDD for such applicaitons is simply shocking :S

So an SSHD would indeed be a nice compromise.

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1 minute ago, Christophe Corazza said:

You definitely want to have a CPU with decent single core performance (and turbo boost for that matter). Some of the software that you will be using during the first year(s) of engineering - MATLAB is an excellent example - is horribly single threaded.

 

 

@hambobolubia's university mentions the HDD as a minimum requirement, but using an HDD for such applicaitons is simply shocking :S

So an SSHD would indeed be a nice compromise.

True, and part of the reason I suggested the 8750h is because it's a 6 core beast of a mobile CPU.  Especially when you start factoring in multicore performance too.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8750H-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700HQ/m470418vsm211019

Home AI/Game Development, and Music Editing Workstation:

Bloodshed and the Fenris-Wolf:  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fx3sNP

 

Mobile Workstation:

Ryu Hayabusa:  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/37bVz7

 

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11 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

True, and part of the reason I suggested the 8750h is because it's a 6 core beast of a mobile CPU.  Especially when you start factoring in multicore performance too.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8750H-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700HQ/m470418vsm211019

 

That indeed looks like a perfect CPU to me. The MSI laptop that you’ve suggested would be able to get OP through engineering for sure. The HDD is also easily swappable for an SSHD, so no problems there. He might even swap them later on when his budget has recovered a little bit. Although... the laptop hasn’t got an optical drive ;-)

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1 minute ago, Christophe Corazza said:

 

That indeed looks like a perfect CPU to me. The MSI laptop that you’ve suggested would be able to get OP through engineering for sure. The HDD is also easily swappable for an SSHD, so no problems there. He might even swap them later on when his budget has recovered a little bit. Although... the laptop hasn’t got an optical drive ;-)

You can always get a USB one, but it did say the optical drive was optional.

Home AI/Game Development, and Music Editing Workstation:

Bloodshed and the Fenris-Wolf:  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fx3sNP

 

Mobile Workstation:

Ryu Hayabusa:  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/37bVz7

 

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3 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

You can always get a USB one, but it did say the optical drive was optional.

 

True :-D

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i know this is kind of a stupid questio but how would it compare to my current desktop 

intel core 2 quad Q6600 2.4G

8GB ram

and just a generic 7200RPM hdd

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40 minutes ago, hambobolubia said:

i know this is kind of a stupid questio but how would it compare to my current desktop 

intel core 2 quad Q6600 2.4G

8GB ram

and just a generic 7200RPM hdd

CPU
Ram well frequency might matter in this regard, latency doesn't matter as much cuz frequency with DDR4, and 2 times as much is better in your field.
The 1060 3gb is a lot better than whatever GPU is in there, and an SSHD and/or SSD > write speeds than a standard 7200rpm drive.

Home AI/Game Development, and Music Editing Workstation:

Bloodshed and the Fenris-Wolf:  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fx3sNP

 

Mobile Workstation:

Ryu Hayabusa:  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/37bVz7

 

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3 hours ago, hambobolubia said:

id say around 1000-1500(canadian) possibly more i guess it really depends on the laptop if it has something that i really like i wouldn't mind paying more

Do you have any special requirements like display size/quality, weight, battery life etc?

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I would look at the Lenovo p series, p52s if you want portability over power or the p51 if you want power over portability. Also look at the hp zbook, and dell precision line. The hp and dell will be a bit more expensive. They all have mid tear quado graphics that will be able to handle any of your cad needs or simulation needs. Do you know any of the software you need to use?

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37 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

Do you have any special requirements like display size/quality, weight, battery life etc?

at this point no i really do like the look of the ThinkPads but as of now they are a little out of my budget

27 minutes ago, engineernerd said:

I would look at the Lenovo p series, p52s if you want portability over power or the p51 if you want power over portability. Also look at the hp zbook, and dell precision line. The hp and dell will be a bit more expensive. They all have mid tear quado graphics that will be able to handle any of your cad needs or simulation needs. Do you know any of the software you need to use?

for the software as far as i know autocad is mostly what they use.... im my own time i would like to run solidworks and cura for my 3d printer as well as eagle (with autorouter)for electronic projects 

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7 minutes ago, hambobolubia said:

at this point no

MSI GP63 (8750H, 16GB, 1TB+128GB, 1050TI)

Check out my laptop reviews here

 

My daily driver: Lenovo Legion 5i 15

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