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Now guys, I really like Linus (and he's team) with what they're doing for example with Floatplane stuff etc. I think Linus Is a great man, and is kind of inspiring, in some ways. But I was trying to be a little critical on their way of creating a new platform (speaking about Floatplane). If Linus, and Luke for that sake, was trying to get their YouTube viewers on Floatplane to expand their business/media, then let's say they achieved that successfully. Then they would have a kind off "Backup", just in case YouTube screwed up with their algorithms,  and so more and more  YouTubers would convert to Floatplane from YouTube. But that would just result in Luke and Linus controlling Floatplane, like Google controls Youtube, along with the Youtubers on the platform. Meaning that Linus, and Luke, practicly could control a big part of those who "theoretically" converted to Floatplane. Wouldn't that just make LMG/Floatplane the new YouTube? A solution could be to make a rule in the policy, saying something in the likes of" The owners of Floatplane should never be allowed to control, nor manipulate any of the creaters channel..." What do you guys think, can you follow my way thinking? 

 

Not meant to judge anybody, just to get people thinking..

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Unlike YouTube there wont be a billion people on float plane so the creatosr on float plane can jump plane any time they want so Linus would have alot more to lose by doing something like that 

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I quess it is like you are talking, floatplane is open and they once told, if I remember correctly that also nudity and less friendly stuff will be allowed in some way, the same case is with twitch and yt stream that banned couple streamers in Poland because they were too hardcore, drunk streams, swearing, bulling people on webcams etc. ( one was even taken by the police) the moved to third party streaming platform that allows them to show nudity and other hardcore stuff

 

+ floatplane is more direct than youtube, you come there for those creators that you want, you pay for it so LMG has less intrest in doing algorythms shit

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Considering it's a per-creator subscription, they would basically lose out if they started pulling the same shit Google is doing with our subscriptions on Youtube.

 

Floatplane is not a youtube replacement. It's a Vessel replacement, an early access platform.

But I personally view it as a Patreon sort of things, where you support a specific creator that you like, which gets you early viewing of their videos and some behind the scenes that would never make it to youtube as additional perks, without ads. (Which are what supports the creators on Youtube, so if you use adblock, they get nothing at all.)

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3 hours ago, TetraSky said:

Floatplane is not a youtube replacement. It's a Vessel replacement, an early access platform.

 

I can definitely agree with this.

The principle of Floatplane is more tied to Vessel than YouTube.

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On 6/2/2018 at 12:51 PM, Janus Aagaard said:

 If Linus, and Luke for that sake,

 

First, Floatplane is handled by Floatplane Media where Luke is CTO. It and LMG are sister companies under holding company. While Linus does look over what happens in FPM, he doesn't have any major control over what other creators do.

 

On 6/2/2018 at 12:51 PM, Janus Aagaard said:

But that would just result in Luke and Linus controlling Floatplane, like Google controls Youtube, along with the Youtubers on the platform.

 

Youtube is run with ads, and advertisers are actually ones doing control. Google is just implementing rules to keep money flowing from advertisers.

 

On 6/2/2018 at 12:51 PM, Janus Aagaard said:

Meaning that Linus, and Luke, practicly could control a big part of those who "theoretically" converted to Floatplane.

 

Since its like pay-per-view business model, only rules are Canada's laws. Or maybe laws of all countries their servers are located, I'm not quite sure how it works. If viewer wants to pay to watch busty girls or drunk men, playing around with guns, joking about suicide etc., nothing stand their way. As long as its within Canada's laws. So I would think drinking under-aged, drinking and driving, actually committing crimes etc. are out of question.

 

On 6/2/2018 at 12:51 PM, Janus Aagaard said:

Wouldn't that just make LMG/Floatplane the new YouTube?

 

No. Youtube is ad-run free to watch service. FP is pay-per-creator support the ones you like type.

 

On 6/2/2018 at 12:51 PM, Janus Aagaard said:

A solution could be to make a rule in the policy, saying something in the likes of" The owners of Floatplane should never be allowed to control, nor manipulate any of the creaters channel..." What do you guys think, can you follow my way thinking?

 

 Since this is just another way to gain revenue to creators, its more likely that others would just leave platform if something so radical is made. Which is kinda against common sense, and when there aren't outside parties evolved with money flow, that would be really bad decision business wise. If creator does something users don't like, they will see it in dropped subscriptions. No need for FPM management take steps, as long as any laws aren't violated.

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On 02/06/2018 at 5:51 PM, Janus Aagaard said:

Now guys, I really like Linus (and he's team) with what they're doing for example with Floatplane stuff etc. I think Linus Is a great man, and is kind of inspiring, in some ways. But I was trying to be a little critical on their way of creating a new platform (speaking about Floatplane). If Linus, and Luke for that sake, was trying to get their YouTube viewers on Floatplane to expand their business/media, then let's say they achieved that successfully. Then they would have a kind off "Backup", just in case YouTube screwed up with their algorithms,  and so more and more  YouTubers would convert to Floatplane from YouTube. But that would just result in Luke and Linus controlling Floatplane, like Google controls Youtube, along with the Youtubers on the platform. Meaning that Linus, and Luke, practicly could control a big part of those who "theoretically" converted to Floatplane. Wouldn't that just make LMG/Floatplane the new YouTube? A solution could be to make a rule in the policy, saying something in the likes of" The owners of Floatplane should never be allowed to control, nor manipulate any of the creaters channel..." What do you guys think, can you follow my way thinking? 

 

Not meant to judge anybody, just to get people thinking..

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Floatplane is not a new YouTube, it's a new Vessel.

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This is almost like calling something the next WoW-killer.

Nope, nah, nu-uh, nada.

But I guess it's something like NetFlix in a small world.

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On 6/2/2018 at 3:51 AM, Janus Aagaard said:

trying

its them trying to cash in, thats all it is.

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14 hours ago, Ezzy-525 said:

Floatplane is not a new YouTube, it's a new Vessel.

More like that. I'd really like to get what are the differences between vessel and float plane other than individual subscription

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3 minutes ago, IgorM said:

More like that. I'd really like to get what are the differences between vessel and float plane other than individual subscription

That's about it. Well Vessel had a free public version. The paid version is just for early access to videos before they are made public. 

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9 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

That's about it. Well Vessel had a free public version. The paid version is just for early access to videos before they are made public. 

And not because vessel ended it means it was unsuccessful

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8 hours ago, IgorM said:

And not because vessel ended it means it was unsuccessful

Actually they got bought out by Verizon & the team were re-assigned to work on Verizon's streaming service, it wasn't unsuccessful, if it was unsuccessful they would not have been bought out.

 

IMO Vessel was awesome & I was sad to see it go, I got in when LTT got signed & people got a free year because of it & after that I kept paying for it, because it had a lot of my favourite creators on there & it was worth it for seeing a lot of content 3 or 7 days in advance, plus I could cast to my Chromecast as well that was always handy.

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Float plane gives your subscription money directly to the creators you watch and Linus stated that they don't intend to impose limits based on content type as long as it's legal for them to host it.

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1 hour ago, Virus__ said:

Actually they got bought out by Verizon & the team were re-assigned to work on Verizon's streaming service, it wasn't unsuccessful, if it was unsuccessful they would not have been bought out.

 

IMO Vessel was awesome & I was sad to see it go, I got in when LTT got signed & people got a free year because of it & after that I kept paying for it, because it had a lot of my favourite creators on there & it was worth it for seeing a lot of content 3 or 7 days in advance, plus I could cast to my Chromecast as well that was always handy.

that's why I said it wasn't unsuccessfull

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11 hours ago, IgorM said:

that's why I said it wasn't unsuccessfull

Blah, my bad. I shouldn't be reading things on here late at night after a long day at work. When I read it, I read and I thought you said you were saying it was unsuccessful, but when I read it now, all makes sense. So yeah, sorry dude.

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25 minutes ago, Virus__ said:

Blah

No need to apologize, btw love the beard, is it current?

Maybe get LTT shaved into it ;)

 

btw I have no clue what floatplane looks like, nor the appeal it has.

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3 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

No need to apologize, btw love the beard, is it current?

Maybe get LTT shaved into it ;)

 

btw I have no clue what floatplane looks like, nor the appeal it has.

Nah, I should. I was wrong.

 

and yeah, 15 months & going strong I think. Everyone loves it.

 

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4 hours ago, Canada EH said:

btw love the beard, is it current?

Maybe get LTT shaved into it ;)

 

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