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Experiencing weird temps with my cooler.

 

Using a Corsair H60 with a push/pull config in a Phanteks P400 TG.

 

Seeing the temps are a little disturbing.

 

This was recorded while playing BF1.

 

Cpu is overclocked to 4.4GHz

 

Is it possible my cooler is not able to handle this overclock? The cooler is over 3 years old now too.

 

**EDIT**

 

Just FYI, I idle in the 55C to 60C temps while just browsing the web.

 

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Yeah it's probably a bit too much for the single 120mm rad

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thermal paste just dried to crisps, probably.

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Sounds about right with that little cooler, old paste and a possibility of lack of airflow.

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Check the thermal paste it does sound cooked, reapplication of it will bring it back to semi-nominal levels. Try and get a 240 rad if your case allows it.

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50-60c idle sounds like the pump is also on its way out. Time to get a new cooler altogether.

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21 minutes ago, Grabow said:

**EDIT**

 

Just FYI, I idle in the 55C to 60C temps while just browsing the web.

Idle temps means probably either a dead/dying pump. Could also be bad thermal paste, but for the "apples to apples" comparison, my 4790k on the h90i around about 25-35ºC at idle depending on room temperature and "casual task" (also running 4.4ghz at stock voltages)

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I am considering changing to an air cooler.

 

Looking for something that can handle my 4.4GHz OC.

 

Something under $50 would be ideal with the cheaper the better.

 

Case has a max cooler height of 160mm.

 

Considering THIS

 

seems like a steal and from what I can find online it cools very well.

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7 hours ago, Grabow said:

Considering THIS

seems like a steal and from what I can find online it cools very well.

It's alright. I'd suggest spending slightly for the better Hans or Kotetsu:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Pn648d/reeven-hans-821-cfm-sleeve-bearing-cpu-cooler-rc-1205

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7998TW/scythe-cpu-cooler-scktt1000

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Been doing some more research and looks like a lot of people are suggesting either:

These two coolers are almost priced about the same right now $79 for the NH-D15S and $85 for the H105

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xCL7YJ/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15s

or

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Ld3RsY/corsair-cpu-cooler-cw9060016ww

 

My only concern with the Noctua cooler is clearance as it is right at the max for my Phantek P400s TG. (160mm)

 

With the H105 it performs more or less the same but has been shown to be a little louder. (the pump at least)

 

These are a little over my budget but if they will help me extend the use of my 4790k than I think it is worth it.

 

Which one would you choose and why?

 

Also I am curious if you think it would be worth it to replace the thermal compound just to see what happens to the temps?

 

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23 minutes ago, Grabow said:

Been doing some more research and looks like a lot of people are suggesting either:

These two coolers are almost priced about the same right now $79 for the NH-D15S and $85 for the H105

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xCL7YJ/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15s

or

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Ld3RsY/corsair-cpu-cooler-cw9060016ww

 

My only concern with the Noctua cooler is clearance as it is right at the max for my Phantek P400s TG. (160mm)

 

With the H105 it performs more or less the same but has been shown to be a little louder. (the pump at least)

 

These are a little over my budget but if they will help me extend the use of my 4790k than I think it is worth it.

 

Which one would you choose and why?

 

Also I am curious if you think it would be worth it to replace the thermal compound just to see what happens to the temps?

 

it will cost you $5 and less than an hour to do, probably worth a try. 

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H60 should be able handle a 4790k @4.4ghz. make sure the water block is mounted properly, remounting and re-pasting can't do any harm and may solve the problem.

 

I also find with my H100i that it runs cooler with the tubes coming off the water block on the right side, i don't know why, but it is a fair bit cooler mounted this way.

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1 hour ago, Grabow said:

Also I am curious if you think it would be worth it to replace the thermal compound just to see what happens to the temps?

It's worth doing. Just get some cheaper but not the cheapest thermal paste.

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On 03/05/2018 at 10:09 AM, Grabow said:

Experiencing weird temps with my cooler.

 

Using a Corsair H60 with a push/pull config in a Phanteks P400 TG.

 

Seeing the temps are a little disturbing.

 

This was recorded while playing BF1.

 

Cpu is overclocked to 4.4GHz

 

Is it possible my cooler is not able to handle this overclock? The cooler is over 3 years old now too.

 

**EDIT**

 

Just FYI, I idle in the 55C to 60C temps while just browsing the web.

 

 

are you sure the pump is running?

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Thermal Paste arrived today and this is what happened so far.

 

Removed the water block to find the old thermal paste was dried out, almost in a chalky like substance.

 

Barely had to do anything to remove it, just took a paper towel and it rubbed right off.

 

The first image shows the temps during a "load" while playing BF1. Broke 90C and was hovering in the 80s for most of the load.

 

The second image shows the load after the old paste had been cleaned off and new paste reapplied.

 

I confirmed the pump was running by checking the bios and verifying the rpm was showing correctly as well as feeling the tubes for the "hum" of the pump.

 

Interesting enough, when idling I can feel the difference in tube temps where the exit tube is hot to the touch and the entrance tube is cold to the touch.

 

So the pump and radiator are doing their job, at idle at least, just seems that during load it isn't working out to well.

 

Gonna let the paste set for a little while longer and run the test again to see if there are any changes.

 

 

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Well the "paste" settles once the cooler applies enough pressure.

Id prolly lower the max clock on the cpu, lower the voltage abit and get some more ram. maybe an ssd to unless the interface is broken, as I had that happen to one of mine.

 

Seems like quite a few issues going on there.

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I am confused.

 

Restarted the pc went into setup turned on "OC Genie".

 

It is running at a 40x multiplier or 4GHz.

 

Idle is under 30C now. Load seems more reasonable.

 

**EDIT**

 

Okay, idle is a more "normal" 35C, but load is still hitting 99C and thermal throttling.

 

No idea what is going on here.

 

And please ignore my SSD and RAM. They don't affect anything. My system runs fine other than the temps.

 

 

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Just in case any one was curious.

 

Replacing the paste has helped my temps.

 

EXCEPT in Battlefield 1.

 

No idea why in that game I hit 99C and thermal throttle.

 

Every other game I top out in the 60Cs.

 

My idel has dropped from 50C - 60c to 20c - 30c. So it's helped everywhere else except Battlefield 1.

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Because bf1 loves to kill cpus.

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Yeah I just found that out earlier today to some research after noticing the temps jump only in BF1.

 

So glad I didn't but a new cooler.

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