Buying hardware outside the US

[Lockram]

Okay, so i have been searching for a new GPU for quite some time now. I have found plenty of retailers, but almost every retailer with an acceptable price ships from the US. (Acceptable price on the 1080ti for me is 900ish US dollars.)

 

I reside in a scandinavian country, and I have tried to calculate the tax and VAT on importing a GPU from the US, and that is not gonna work. 

 

So is there any good online retailers from Europe i could check out? (No tax or VAT when buying from a European country, hence a shop in France or italy could work) 

[Matsozetex]

Try doing Newegg for your country (I.e Newegg.com/se or Newegg.com/dk).

 

For graphics cards I have found it cheaper to buy a founders edition card and modify it with a H55 and a G12, its a cheaper way to get a GTX 1080ti if you can get your hands on one via NVidia's website.

 

Another thing to note when buying hardware from other continents is the power supply, ensure that the power supply is designed for Europe or Australasia which have ~240V on the mains rather than ~120V in US (IIRC). Every other computer part should be alright, its just the PSU that may have an issue.

[Guest The Viking]

i want to guess denmark due to your profile pic 

 

and no you are mistaken. There's been some changes to EU regulation and you must pay your VAT. If Denmark, then you are screwed, it's 25%. If you buy in belgium thinknig the 21% VAT is applied to you as well, big mistake, as you'll be charged 25%. Not sure why you think you won't be applied VAT.

 

you should just check a local retailer such as cdon http://cdon.se/ sure they are swedes but still ship to DK. There's a few others, they all ship from their countries. Not sure what retailers you were checking either....

 

otherwise, https://www.ldlc.com/, https://www.alternate.de/, https://www.pccomponentes.com/, or even amazon.de, amazon.it....

 

 

and if you're not from dk, not sure what you doing with that profile pic from Forsvaret....

[Guest The Viking]

4 minutes ago, Matsozetex said:

Try doing Newegg for your country (I.e Newegg.com/se or Newegg.com/dk).

they'll charge you import taxes+VAT. newegg just redirects you from the US shop to "local" shop, but taxes still apply, and aren't include on prices.

 

https://kb.newegg.com/Article/Index/12/3?id=1400

 

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The recipient is the importer of record and must comply with all laws and regulations of the destination country. Orders shipped outside of the United States may be subject to import taxes, customs duties and fees levied by the destination country. The recipient of an international shipment may be subject to such import taxes, customs duties and fees, which are levied once a shipment reaches the recipient's country. Additional charges for customs clearance must be fulfilled by the recipient; Newegg has no control over these charges, nor can Newegg predict what they may be.

good luck taking 20%+ on your face 

[Lockram]

2 minutes ago, Matsozetex said:

Try doing Newegg for your country (I.e Newegg.com/se or Newegg.com/dk).

 

For graphics cards I have found it cheaper to buy a founders edition card and modify it with a H55 and a G12, its a cheaper way to get a GTX 1080ti if you can get your hands on one via NVidia's website.

 

Another thing to note when buying hardware from other continents is the power supply, ensure that the power supply is designed for Europe or Australasia which have ~240V on the mains rather than ~120V in US (IIRC). Every other computer part should be alright, its just the PSU that may have an issue.

I am refreshing Nvidias website constantly, just waiting for the restock. 

Will buying from newegg not always result in it being shipped from the US? 

[Matsozetex]

Just now, Lockram said:

I am refreshing Nvidias website constantly, just waiting for the restock. 

Will buying from newegg not always result in it being shipped from the US? 

It depends on who is supplying the part, if Newegg is supply the parts then you'll pay taxes but if a local retailer supplies it, you won't. In relation to other countries, Germany may be a great option, they have a decent array of computer parts and shipping shouldn't be too terrible if they can ship to you,

[Lockram]

24 minutes ago, The Viking said:

i want to guess denmark due to your profile pic 

 

and no you are mistaken. There's been some changes to EU regulation and you must pay your VAT. If Denmark, then you are screwed, it's 25%. If you buy in belgium thinknig the 21% VAT is applied to you as well, big mistake, as you'll be charged 25%. Not sure why you think you won't be applied VAT.

 

you should just check a local retailer such as cdon http://cdon.se/ sure they are swedes but still ship to DK. There's a few others, they all ship from their countries. Not sure what retailers you were checking either....

 

otherwise, https://www.ldlc.com/, https://www.alternate.de/, https://www.pccomponentes.com/, or even amazon.de, amazon.it....

 

 

and if you're not from dk, not sure what you doing with that profile pic from Forsvaret....

This weren't supposed to be a discussion on VAT. You can read the rules, which clearly states you don't have to pay VAT or import tax here http://skat.dk/skat.aspx?oid=2244327&ik_navn=transport

 

I do appreciate the links you included for the retailers thanks. 

[asus killer]

https://www.amazon.es/EVGA-GeForce-JUEGOS-GDDR5X-tecnología/dp/B071Y78QG7/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522418243&sr=8-1&keywords=1080+ti

 

prices have dropped, in my country you have the strix for under 900 euros avaiable today.

 

@Lockram what he means is that the seller charges you the VAT from your country. For example if in your country the VAT is 21% and you buy from another EU country and there VAT is 19%, you will pay the difference. They will not charge you the amount in the website but the price with your VAT. It happened to me, but not all stores do this, i have no idea what are the rules.

[Guest The Viking]

41 minutes ago, Lockram said:

This weren't supposed to be a discussion on VAT. You can read the rules, which clearly states you don't have to pay VAT or import tax here http://skat.dk/skat.aspx?oid=2244327&ik_navn=transport

 

I do appreciate the links you included for the retailers thanks. 

 

35 minutes ago, asus killer said:

https://www.amazon.es/EVGA-GeForce-JUEGOS-GDDR5X-tecnología/dp/B071Y78QG7/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522418243&sr=8-1&keywords=1080+ti

 

prices have dropped, in my country you have the strix for under 900 euros avaiable today.

 

@Lockram what he means is that the seller charges you the VAT from your country. For example if in your country the VAT is 21% and you buy from another EU country and there VAT is 19%, you will pay the difference. They will not charge you the amount in the website but the price with your VAT. It happened to me, but not all stores do this, i have no idea what are the rules.

yes indeed, what I meant is, you pay the VAT of the country the good is shipped to.

 

If I live in country A with VAT 27% and I buy in country B with VAT 10% and have it shipped to my place in A, I will pay not 10% VAT but 27% on the price of the good.

 

The link from Skat for some reason says it depends, which is ???

 

It may just be an exception, or, as pointed out above, differences in shops. From what I know from my job, which covers this stuff, yes, you have to pay the VAT of the country the good is delivered to. So, in theory, you'll pay danish VAT always. Now, if the shop doesn't do that, good for you. It'll be displayed at check-out anyway, after you put shipping address. So yes, it is a discussion about VAT, because you mentioned "no vat", which is literally impossible in EU unless you have a vat number and pass it as a professional purchase.

 

Amazon, for instance, charges the VAT the good is delivered to. 

 

edit: here, SKAT points it out 

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In the EU, you may purchase goods online for your own use without paying customs duty and Danish VAT. In some cases, the seller pays Danish VAT for you.

 

[asus killer]

1 minute ago, The Viking said:

 

yes indeed, what I meant is, you pay the VAT of the country the good is shipped to.

 

If I live in country A with VAT 27% and I buy in country B with VAT 10% and have it shipped to my place in A, I will pay not 10% VAT but 27% on the price of the good.

 

The link from Skat for some reason says it depends, which is ???

 

It may just be an exception, or, as pointed out above, differences in shops. From what I know from my job, which covers this stuff, yes, you have to pay the VAT of the country the good is delivered to. So, in theory, you'll pay danish VAT always. Now, if the shop doesn't do that, good for you. It'll be displayed at check-out anyway, after you put shipping address. So yes, it is a discussion about VAT, because you mentioned "no vat", which is literally impossible in EU unless you have a vat number and pass it as a professional purchase.

all that i can say is that it happens sometimes and other don't. Taxes are weird and let's leave to that 

[Guest The Viking]

Otherwise, https://www.mindfactory.de/ has very good review, though it seems they don't ship outside of germany anymore. Brits like https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ a lot.

[LogicalDrm]

Alternate.de and Amazon.de are look-worthy. Or if you have business account you can use, Mindfactory.de.

[dfsdfgfkjsefoiqzemnd]

None of my regular shops seem to have a 1080Ti in your price range.  They're all either £850+ or €1000+

[chilicheeseburger]

On 30.3.2018 at 4:35 PM, The Viking said:

It may just be an exception, or, as pointed out above, differences in shops. From what I know from my job, which covers this stuff, yes, you have to pay the VAT of the country the good is delivered to. So, in theory, you'll pay danish VAT always. Now, if the shop doesn't do that, good for you. It'll be displayed at check-out anyway, after you put shipping address. So yes, it is a discussion about VAT, because you mentioned "no vat", which is literally impossible in EU unless you have a vat number and pass it as a professional purchase.

 

Amazon, for instance, charges the VAT the good is delivered to. 

 

I never knew that, I thought that was only for digital goods (like steam keys). But I checked amazon UK and sure enough they only charge me 19% VAT which is the German rate.

 

It's actually hard to find any official info on how this works but from what I gather it depends on how much turnover the seller has in the country he would export to (In this case Denmark), so if the yearly turnover in a certain EU country exceeds a limit which is set by each indivual country (apparently DKK 280 000 for Denmark), the seller will then have to charge the VAT rate of the country he is exporting to rather than the country he is based in. (source: https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/vat-customs/cross-border/index_da.htm) I don't know if that's an official site or not, and what I wrote is only my understanding of it.

 

So you can forget about Amazon because they will surely exceed the yearly limit and charge your local VAT, but you may be able to buy it from a smaller German store for example and only pay 19% VAT.

[Guest The Viking]

1 hour ago, chilicheeseburger said:

I never knew that, I thought that was only for digital goods (like steam keys). But I checked amazon UK and sure enough they only charge me 19% VAT which is the German rate.

 

It's actually hard to find any official info on how this works but from what I gather it depends on how much turnover the seller has in the country he would export to (In this case Denmark), so if the yearly turnover in a certain EU country exceeds a limit which is set by each indivual country (apparently DKK 280 000 for Denmark), the seller will then have to charge the VAT rate of the country he is exporting to rather than the country he is based in. (source: https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/vat-customs/cross-border/index_da.htm) I don't know if that's an official site or not, and what I wrote is only my understanding of it.

 

So you can forget about Amazon because they will surely exceed the yearly limit and charge your local VAT, but you may be able to buy it from a smaller German store for example and only pay 19% VAT.

Correct, the store needs to sell for a certain amount in your country before paying your country's VAT. From my experience, all stores sell over that amount, maybe because I mainly go on big ones such as Amazon or LDLC that sell a lot in belgium.

 

europa.eu is an official site of the EU, yes 

[LoganTNZ]

I feel you ;c

 

Newegg is charging me 100 dollars in shipping for a 120 dollar case lmal (i live in australia)

[wasab]

Does buying from UK require you to pay VAT? I heard it left the EU a few ago. 

[Lockram]

20 hours ago, wasab said:

Does buying from UK require you to pay VAT? I heard it left the EU a few ago. 

20 hours ago, wasab said:

Does buying from UK require you to pay VAT? I heard it left the EU a few ago. 

The last thing I heard was that it's still VAT free, but I'm not sure. Good question though. 

[IntMD]

21 hours ago, wasab said:

Does buying from UK require you to pay VAT? I heard it left the EU a few ago. 

Yes you do if you're in the EU. It hasn't left the EU yet...

[IntMD]

On 30/03/2018 at 1:58 PM, Lockram said:

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As someone else said, http://overclockers.co.uk are one of the better UK sites for graphics card prices at the minute (and usually have some stock of at least some versions). They do ship internationally too, although not sure about cost for that (looks like it is around £31 to Sweden, or £23 to Denmark for example, for a Zotac 1080ti mini). You will also have to pay some form of VAT if you are in the EU too, and it recalculates when you select a delivery destination.

 

Generally about once a month they have deals on 1080tis etc. that either last for a set amount of units or until a specific time while stock lasts.

 

If you go to https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/forums/graphics-cards.3/ there is usually a post from one of the guys there called Gibbo (e.g. from 21st March https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/gpu-prices-some-big-drops-at-ocuk.18814864/) where he will list what's on offer (sometimes they will do an offer code for people that read the forums or sometimes, just update the prices on the site in general). These will either appear just before or just as the items go on sale.