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China to the rescue in face of the inflated DRAM prices?

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Are you going to buy RAM with Chinese-made chips?  

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  1. 1. Are you going to buy RAM with Chinese-made chips?

    • Yes, I will.
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    • No, I won't.
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There are three Chinese companies now building factories for DRAM using 20/18nm process, all with ETA set in H2. One of the companies have almost the same production capacity as SKHynix even. With the three Chinese DRAM factories online, it will bring in a significant chunk of new production capabilities, likely alleviating the current DRAM chip shortage that drives memory module and graphics card prices up through the roof.

 

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Will you buy DRAM modules or graphics cards with Chinese-branded DRAM modules?

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2 minutes ago, maxtch said:

There are three Chinese companies now building factories for DRAM using 20/18nm process, all with ETA set in H2. One of the companies have almost the same production capacity as SKHynix even. With the three Chinese DRAM factories online, it will bring in a significant chunk of new production capabilities, likely alleviating the current DRAM chip shortage that drives memory module and graphics card prices up through the roof.

 

Will you buy DRAM modules or graphics cards with Chinese-branded DRAM modules?

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Just now, legacy99 said:

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A few Chinese sources claimed that. Do you mind the language barrier?

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1 minute ago, maxtch said:

A few Chinese sources claimed that. Do you mind the language barrier?

There is always google translate. This would likely be something good for you to post in the news section. 

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4 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

There is always google translate. This would likely be something good for you to post in the news section. 

I have added some sources if you want to check.

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i'm glad this is happening and have no problem buying it if it is good of course, but like everything there will be reviews. The nationality of the RAM is really not important.

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Yes, there seems to be 3 new factories for ram being built in China, sponsored by the government if I understood correctly. It has popped up somewhere else, but it seems they'll only be ready around 2020 though? Quite surprised it's second half of 2018.

 

The stuff I've read around says to not expect ram as good as Samsung's and SKHynix, but it'll be good enough.

 

I'm checking the sources maxtch just linked and this paragraph is interesting (google-translate):

 

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Following the realization of the localization of CPU, NAND flash memory, OLED screen panels and other products, DRAM memory particles are finally expected to achieve domestic production. Chip design company Zhao Yi innovation recently announced that it announced on October 26 that Hefei Industrial Investment Holding (Group) Co., Ltd. had signed a "cooperation agreement on the storage R & D project" to jointly develop a 12-inch DRAM wafer of 19nm process.

From what I know China has already 3 huge companies with fabs for cpus, with HiSilicon being one of them (Huawei....), ranking quite high.

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Although it takes a long time from R&D to mass production and sales, at least we see that it is no longer controlled by Samsung.

Again this idea of dependance.

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The goal is to successfully develop the product before December 31st, 2018

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Following the storage of Fujian Jinhua, Hefei Changxin, and the Yangtze River, the domestic DRAM industry has added a “major general”, which will strengthen domestic storage, especially the formation of DRAM, in order to break through the storage and encirclement of the US, Japan, and South Korea companies as soon as possible. adequate preparation.

 

So yes I am correct, this thing will not help, as they target a trial of barely 60K pieces a month by the end of the month, IF the trial is successfull

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It is expected that it will be trial-produced in September 2018 and reach a monthly production capacity of 60,000 pieces.

 

Last source talks of patent issues with SkHynix. As usual, it may turn out that we won't be able to buy this stuff ... legally, as it may have broken a patent or two in the way of being made (who cares at this point, really?). 

 

What's going to happen is all the cheap tech will use these new chinese ram cells, so we'll have all cheap phones, tablets, ssds, etc, with this cheaper stuff and still buy samsung/skhynix sticks (corsair, etc) if we can actually afford those.

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I cant answer the poll because whether I am going or if I am willing to buy Chinese chips depends on price, availability, quality, warranty, speeds, latency, compatibility. It will most likely also affect the prices of RAM from other manufacturers.

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I expect their ram to be less than 1/3 the speed compare to Samsung and hypernix mainstream ram and 1/100th the speed of their best ram. 

 

I used to own a cheap $150 Chinese atom tablet from chuwi. It advertises to have 4gb ram which is quite a lot for such a tiny devices. When I benchmark the ram memory however, it turns out even a ssd from MacBook manage to outspeed it by a few percent in random read and write(yeah, Apple ssd is fast but we are comparing it to ram, cone on, that is just pathetic)

Sudo make me a sandwich 

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