Folding Community Board

[Captainmarino]

1 hour ago, Gorgon said:

For a 175W TDP GPU a 3-slot cooler is way overkill. I’m just finishing getting rid of all my 1000 and 2000-series GPUs so I’m seeing much better efficiencies. Dropped from 1500 to 1000W of GPUs but keeping around the same yield so easier on the electricity bill.

For a 2060?!  Yeah, a bit ridiculous.

 

I'm actually looking to move up in wattage to something a little beefier. I'm currently running a 1660S but I've been looking around for a good deal on an RX 6700XT. Should be a good step up in performance but I'm going to have to beef up the ol' PSU for sure.

[GOTSpectrum]

1 hour ago, Gorgon said:

For a 175W TDP GPU a 3-slot cooler is way overkill. I’m just finishing getting rid of all my 1000 and 2000-series GPUs so I’m seeing much better efficiencies. Dropped from 1500 to 1000W of GPUs but keeping around the same yield so easier on the electricity bill.

seeing as my 4070ti does fine with two slots, it is defiantly overkill lmfao 

[TVwazhere]

9 hours ago, Mxyzptlk said:

Anyone seen a 3 slot 2060 Super!  Yikes 

I might be in the minority, but I'd rather an overbuilt EVGA than a barely surpasses reference design. Even on the mid xx60 cards

 

RIP EVGA GPU division

[Gorgon]

4 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

I might be in the minority, but I'd rather an overbuilt EVGA than a barely surpasses reference design. Even on the mid xx60 cards

 

RIP EVGA GPU division

At least with the EVGA “XC” budget variants you still got decent fans unlike some other IBPs budget cards “cough” Gigabyte “cough”

[Gorgon]

44 minutes ago, Captainmarino said:

For a 2060?!  Yeah, a bit ridiculous.

 

I'm actually looking to move up in wattage to something a little beefier. I'm currently running a 1660S but I've been looking around for a good deal on an RX 6700XT. Should be a good step up in performance but I'm going to have to beef up the ol' PSU for sure.

If the GPUs just for folding you’d be better off with Team Green but if you want to use it for gaming as well the Team Red is the way to go these days for pure rasterization performance. A used 2070 Super should be under $200US these days on eBay and will give more PPD than a 6700xt

[Captainmarino]

17 minutes ago, Gorgon said:

If the GPUs just for folding you’d be better off with Team Green but if you want to use it for gaming as well the Team Red is the way to go these days for pure rasterization performance. A used 2070 Super should be under $200US these days on eBay and will give more PPD than a 6700xt

Agreed. I will actually game on it as well and probably keep it for a bit. I've had the 1660S for 3 years and wanted to up the folding PPD a bit while improving the gaming also... while getting a good deal on the card. The 6700 XT seemed like a good balance. Should be quite a bit of an improvement in games and somewhere up around 2M PPD for folding. I've been seeing cards go for $250-300. Seemed reasonable if I can flip the Super for ~$120-150.

[Mxyzptlk]

4 hours ago, Gorgon said:

For a 175W TDP GPU a 3-slot cooler is way overkill. I’m just finishing getting rid of all my 1000 and 2000-series GPUs so I’m seeing much better efficiencies. Dropped from 1500 to 1000W of GPUs but keeping around the same yield so easier on the electricity bill.

I'm all in on the 40XX Series now. The 3070 Pictured is something I scavenged from my brother for the folding sprint week.

 

The 2060 Super was a momentary weakness during the EVGA B-Stock sale last weekend. It's intended for a new Boinc / Folding computer that I placed a tight budget on. I was given a new although very baseline X99 MoBo (aliexpress sent to them by accident). I started looking around and all I needed to get another machine online was a CPU (XEON E5-2660 for $9.12 from Ebay) and a GPU...  I think I might get it online this weekend... 

[Gorgon]

Congratulations @Justaphf for being the first LTT team member to crack the top 50 in the World!

[Justaphf]

6 hours ago, Gorgon said:

Congratulations @Justaphf for being the first LTT team member to crack the top 50 in the World!

Thanks! I think it slipped by a few weeks ago and I didn't even notice till I was looking at how low my production was during the Pent.  Should be cracking 30 billion in a few weeks too.

[Gorgon]

19 hours ago, Captainmarino said:

Agreed. I will actually game on it as well and probably keep it for a bit. I've had the 1660S for 3 years and wanted to up the folding PPD a bit while improving the gaming also... while getting a good deal on the card. The 6700 XT seemed like a good balance. Should be quite a bit of an improvement in games and somewhere up around 2M PPD for folding. I've been seeing cards go for $250-300. Seemed reasonable if I can flip the Super for ~$120-150.

If your local markets anything like mine you should have no problem selling the 1660s.  Strangely I’ve had no problems selling lower end cards (1060, 5700xt, 2060s, 1070ti) in the $150-200Cdn range but the 2070 Super Hybrids I’ve reduced to $250 are slow to move. I guess people looking for a low end card are less picky than those looking for mid range.

[cbigfoot]

21 hours ago, TVwazhere said:

I might be in the minority, but I'd rather an overbuilt EVGA than a barely surpasses reference design. Even on the mid xx60 cards

 

RIP EVGA GPU division

i don't know what brand of card to buy any more  i have been xfx for NVidia and AMD till they dropped NVidia, then went to evga for NVidia till now my whole life lol. its ok thou will be next gen before i buy more HW...was going to buy a 7000 series amd cpu but bought a new car instead and asus destroying the 7000 series scared me off too. thou the noctua asus gpus are interesting not sure how much i trust asus right now....

[BondiBlue]

20 hours ago, Mxyzptlk said:

I'm all in on the 40XX Series now.

I keep myself on a pretty tight budget when it comes to the cards I use for folding, but my electricity costs are very low, so it's not too bad. Right now my 24/7 folding machines are running a mix of Pascal (GT 1030, GTX 1080, dual Quadro P4000s) and Turing (GTX 1660 Ti, RTX 2070, RTX 2070 Super). For the events I usually like to pull out some of my other hardware that is less practical to keep running 24/7, such as a couple Maxwell-based Quadros (M4000), my collection of RX 570 and RX 580 cards, and even a CPU or two. 

[Mxyzptlk]

10 hours ago, BondiBlue said:

I keep myself on a pretty tight budget when it comes to the cards I use for folding, but my electricity costs are very low, so it's not too bad. Right now my 24/7 folding machines are running a mix of Pascal (GT 1030, GTX 1080, dual Quadro P4000s) and Turing (GTX 1660 Ti, RTX 2070, RTX 2070 Super). For the events I usually like to pull out some of my other hardware that is less practical to keep running 24/7, such as a couple Maxwell-based Quadros (M4000), my collection of RX 570 and RX 580 cards, and even a CPU or two. 

Well... I haven't been so frugal .

In March 2020 I had a 1060 in one rig and an RX580 in another. Then I got into folding. I don't recall all that I had, but I had a lot of 2060 & 2070 Supers, then sold those off piecemeal to pay for upgrades (and beyond) to 3080's, 3080 ti's, 3070's etc. I think I had over a dozen total of those at one point. Then I sold those off 2 at a time to pay for my 40XX cards... 

 

I do have to say, I never bought one card over MSRP. Most of them were either EVGA's B-Stock, the EVGA lottery / Waitlist, or from catching a BestBuy Drop. 

 

Power here is a concern, but my willingness to Fold Cancer WU's is greater. So I need to do it in as best way long term that I can.. 

[BondiBlue]

24 minutes ago, Mxyzptlk said:

Well... I haven't been so frugal .

In March 2020 I had a 1060 in one rig and an RX580 in another. Then I got into folding. I don't recall all that I had, but I had a lot of 2060 & 2070 Supers, then sold those off piecemeal to pay for upgrades (and beyond) to 3080's, 3080 ti's, 3070's etc. I think I had over a dozen total of those at one point. Then I sold those off 2 at a time to pay for my 40XX cards... 

 

I do have to say, I never bought one card over MSRP. Most of them were either EVGA's B-Stock, the EVGA lottery / Waitlist, or from catching a BestBuy Drop. 

 

Power here is a concern, but my willingness to Fold Cancer WU's is greater. So I need to do it in as best way long term that I can.. 

I've been folding for the LTT team on and off for well over 6 years now (I had an old forum account), and when I started all I had spare was a few Core 2 Duo machines, one of which was my main computer at the time. I didn't have any extra money to spend on a lot of computer hardware, so I just used what I had. I've only paid over MSRP for one of the GPUs I've ever purchased (and the one I've used for folding the longest), and that was my XFX Radeon RX 570 4GB. I bought it for $220 towards the end of 2017, during the crypto boom that was happening at the time. I still own that card, and I still fold on it from time to time. It ran nearly 24/7 from the time I purchased it until around this time last year. That much use has worn out both of the fans, and one of them is extremely loud at times. 

 

I didn't really start buying GPUs to dedicate to F@h until a couple years ago. I picked up a GTX 1660 Ti that was brand new for only $75 (this is when they were selling on eBay for $400 or more), and since then I've purchased quite a few other cards. I buy them all used, and they're all older models, but they work well for my needs, and like I said earlier, power is cheap here. So far the most expensive GPU I've bought within the last couple years has been the $200 RTX 2070 that's in my main R7 2700 machine. I try to find good deals on less desirable cards, like OEM blower models. That's how I bought my RTX 2070 Super for something like $140 on eBay. 

 

Eventually I know I'll start looking to sell some of these off and buy more efficient cards from a newer generation. For a variety of reasons I've ended up in posession of an RTX 3080 (it belongs to a friend, but it had some major issues several months ago), and in the time I had it I was able to fold on it. It's pretty impressive, though it did draw a lot more power than any of my own cards, and it put off a lot more heat, something I simply can't deal with very well in the summer. 

 

Tl;dr: I've owned lots of random GPUs over the years for a variety of reasons. Every single one of them is better than the Core 2 Duos I started folding on lol. 

[Captainmarino]

15 hours ago, Gorgon said:

If your local markets anything like mine you should have no problem selling the 1660s.  Strangely I’ve had no problems selling lower end cards (1060, 5700xt, 2060s, 1070ti) in the $150-200Cdn range but the 2070 Super Hybrids I’ve reduced to $250 are slow to move. I guess people looking for a low end card are less picky than those looking for mid range.

I think I'm probably in a similar market.  I don't see much of a problem selling the 1660S.  I'm just trying to get a good deal on a 6700XT. There have been some selling on ebay for 250+ but then there's the added shipping.  There's actually someone somewhat local selling a 6700XT for $300 that I'm going to try to talk down. Fingers crossed!

[Gorgon]

I've been so impressed with the efficiency of the Zotac Trinity RTX 4070ti I picked up recently I picked up a second one while they were still on sale a little over a week ago. I had some more cash come in from selling off my 2000-series cards so I picked up a 4070 and a 4060ti. The 4070 is an Asus Tuf that was open-box at a local retailer and the 4060ti is a Gigabyte Eagle that was the least expensive 4060ti I could find locally, $10 less than the 4060ti's MSRP at Best Buy!.

 

I would have preferred either the twin-axial Zotac or PNY 4060ti but there no stock of those locally so the tri-axial Eagle was the next best option.

 

So far I'm impressed. Neither the 4070 or the 4060ti are nearly as efficient as the 4070tis but they are still much more efficient than the 3000-series cards I still run. Here are some results over the last 48 hours:

	Yield	Power	Efficiency
4070 ti (1) observed	9.0	118.6	76.2
4070 ti (2) observed	8.6	115.9	74.4
4070ti average	8.8	117.3	75.3
4070 observed	6.6	116.9	56.1
4060 ti observed	4.5	88.0	50.6
4060 expected	3.9	77.6	50.6
3080 (1) observed	6.2	195.0	31.6
3080 (2) observed	5.6	181.5	30.8
3080 (3) observed	5.5	177.3	30.9
3080 averages	5.7	184.6	31.1
3070 ti observed	4.0	140.0	28.7
3070 observed	3.9	116.4	33.2
3060 ti estimated	3.2	103.1	31.1

Yield is in MPPD, Power in Watts and Efficiency in kPPD/W. The 3000-series are running at a locked clock of 1440 MHz and the 4000-series at a locked clock of 2205MHz with the exception of the 4070 which is an odd-ball and runs most efficiently at 2400MHz.

 

The 4060ti is performing on par with the 3070 while using 37% less power and costing 20% less than the MSRP of the 3070.

 

The 4070 is yielding 16% more than the 3080s while costing 15% less than the MSRP of the 3080s and using 37% less Power.

 

The 4070tis are yielding 54% more than the 3080s while costing 17% more than the MSRP of the 3080s and using 37% less power.

 

For comparison with my old mix of 2000 and 3000-series cards I was running about 1.5kW of Electricity and yielding about 42MPPD but with the new mix of 3000 and 4000-series I'm using 1.25kW with a yield of 54MPPD.

[Mxyzptlk]

Just had the opportunity to get a 4070 for $109 out of my pocket. Couldn't pass that up. 

[Captainmarino]

On 6/12/2023 at 3:00 PM, Mxyzptlk said:

Just had the opportunity to get a 4070 for $109 out of my pocket. Couldn't pass that up. 

WOW! Need the deets!

 

I'm trying to muster the gumption to pull the trigger on a $250 6700XT 

[Mxyzptlk]

13 hours ago, Captainmarino said:

WOW! Need the deets!

 

I'm trying to muster the gumption to pull the trigger on a $250 6700XT 

Nothing exciting. Had points available though a vender at work for a reward program. Needed to use up the points before the end of the month. So the $109 was the difference needed... 

[Captainmarino]

39 minutes ago, Mxyzptlk said:

Nothing exciting. Had points available though a vender at work for a reward program. Needed to use up the points before the end of the month. So the $109 was the difference needed... 

That's quite the deal!

[RollinLower]

@leadeateras the resident CPU folding maestro, have you ever ran into this before?

this is on a EPYC 7552 48 core, 96 Threads.

 

EDIT:
lmao it started the WU in single thread mode

[Kilrah]

Believe you want multiple slots of ~8 threads instead of one giant one?

[GOTSpectrum]

19 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Believe you want multiple slots of ~8 threads instead of one giant one?

up to 32 these days with A8 WUs

[RollinLower]

1 minute ago, GOTSpectrum said:

up to 32 these days with A8 WUs

so i should be splitting it up into 3 then
i wonder how that is handled within the chip, what CCXs are handling what workload etc. i guess it would be beneficial to have as much of the same chiplets working on a single WU as possible.

[BondiBlue]

Oops! I've been very busy lately, and I thought my office PC was still chugging along with F@h on the two GPUs it has. Looks like it went down a few days ago for some reason. It's back up and running now, but I lost out on a good amount of points. The GTX 1080 + RTX 2070 Super combo in that machine does really well for F@h.