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11 hours ago, yaboistar said:

go cheap turing. second hand 2060

Also wouldn't a 1660 be the better buy since nothing about RTX helps with folding?

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Just now, Bitter said:

Also wouldn't a 1660 be the better buy since nothing about RTX helps with folding?

rtx2060 was the best price to performance of turing iirc

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Just now, yaboistar said:

rtx2060 was the best price to performance of turing iirc

Ah I see, it does have more Cuda. That's what I'll shoot for I guess this spring/summer. I decided to leave the folding box up stairs for the winter to add a little warmth to the room and I'll basement it when it's warmer out. Sometime next week I'll muck about getting the 1650 out and the OC back on the P106-100.

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6 minutes ago, Bitter said:

Also wouldn't a 1660 be the better buy since nothing about RTX helps with folding?

2060 (specifically ko if you can manage it) due to more optimal core usage, according to this thread, though that was before the cuda point boost.

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4 minutes ago, yaboistar said:

rtx2060 was the best price to performance of turing iirc

RTX 2060 super is a bit better $0.40 per 1M points

RTX 2060 $0.43 per 1M points

GTX 1660  $0.64 per 1M points

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14 minutes ago, chaozbandit said:

2060 (specifically ko if you can manage it) due to more optimal core usage, according to this thread, though that was before the cuda point boost.

 

14 minutes ago, marknd59 said:

RTX 2060 super is a bit better $0.40 per 1M points

RTX 2060 $0.43 per 1M points

GTX 1660  $0.64 per 1M points

Perfect, thanks.  Prices are still currently big ooff for that for me though.

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2 hours ago, marknd59 said:

RTX 2060 super is a bit better $0.40 per 1M points

RTX 2060 $0.43 per 1M points

GTX 1660  $0.64 per 1M points

I am guessing the $'s are based on electricity and not cost of the card? 

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2 hours ago, Collin_S said:

I am guessing the $'s are based on electricity and not cost of the card? 

Somebody posted a spreadsheet a while back doing it both against prices and against power.  I believe it was based off of lars db for performance and listed power draw.  I'm not sure if they updated the sheet since the CUDA update or not.  With miners supposedly liking AMD 6000 cards even more, I'll be curious to see how that turns out for folding once they get properly optimized.

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10 minutes ago, justpoet said:

Somebody posted a spreadsheet a while back doing it both against prices and against power.  I believe it was based off of lars db for performance and listed power draw.  I'm not sure if they updated the sheet since the CUDA update or not.  With miners supposedly liking AMD 6000 cards even more, I'll be curious to see how that turns out for folding once they get properly optimized.

Pre Cuda update my Vega56 was a heck of a card at 175W and 1M PPD, now after the Cuda update it's not as awesome.

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2 minutes ago, Bitter said:

Pre Cuda update my Vega56 was a heck of a card at 175W and 1M PPD, now after the Cuda update it's not as awesome.

Is the card actually performing worse after the update, or just that it didn't see a performance uplift like the nv cards?

RDNA2 is also a drastically different animal.

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1 hour ago, justpoet said:

Is the card actually performing worse after the update, or just that it didn't see a performance uplift like the nv cards?

RDNA2 is also a drastically different animal.

Yea no Cuda no bonus. I mean 1M PPD for 175W is still not bad but if that was a Cuda card it would be like 1.5M PPD for 175W now. My P106-100 jumped from about 500K to 750K for the same wattage.

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Honestly, it looks like the way to fold efficiently for electricity is 2080 super maxq…but then you'd need to have recent laptops, and those usually only come on more upper end systems, and probably don't have decent cooling.  30 series appear to beat everything else for performance per watt, even if they're significantly more expensive to buy and use more watts overall.  2080 TI sucks for performance per watt unless it is a rev a.

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2 minutes ago, justpoet said:

Honestly, it looks like the way to fold efficiently for electricity is 2080 super maxq…but then you'd need to have recent laptops, and those usually only come on more upper end systems.  30 series appear to beat everything else for performance per watt, even if they're significantly more expensive to buy and use more watts overall.  2080 TI sucks for performance per watt unless it is a rev a.

I’m finding the 2070 Supers pretty good. I’m averaging 2.65-2.8MPPD on them at a 125W power limit. I don’t have any Ampere cards yet and likely won’t until the new year when they’re more available but from the initial numbers I’m seeing there’s not much of a performance uplift when you factor in the increased power draws.

 

@Bitter My 1660ti is averaging 1.08MPPD on a 70W power limit; 2060 1.82MPD on a 125W power limit and the 2060 Super 2.08MPPD on a 105W power limit

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1 hour ago, Gorgon said:

2060 1.82MPD on a 125W power limit

I too am now investigating my own system with this idea.. Thank you.

 

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5 minutes ago, RollinLower said:

are people folding on RX 6800 cards yet? and if so, what are the numbers looking like?

The DB says yes, but it is lumped together a lot, so unknown what is actually what.

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6 minutes ago, justpoet said:

The DB says yes, but it is lumped together a lot, so unknown what is actually what.

The 6900 XT has not been launched yet? So the results should be the 6800 / XT. The numbers are already on par with a 2080 super.

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1 hour ago, LazyDev said:

I too am now investigating my own system with this idea.. Thank you.

 

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Just be cautious with the Graphics Clock overclock. If you run it too high when a checkpoint occurs or some other activity that unloads the GPU the overclock can  force the Graphics clock to instability for a brief instant when the Workload returns.

 

On Turing you can Force a min/max graphics clock to limit the upper clock using:

nvidia-smi -i 0 --fgc 0,2050
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11 hours ago, Gorgon said:

Just be cautious with the Graphics Clock overclock. If you run it too high when a checkpoint occurs or some other activity that unloads the GPU the overclock can  force the Graphics clock to instability for a brief instant when the Workload returns.

 

On Turing you can Force a min/max graphics clock to limit the upper clock using:



nvidia-smi -i 0 --fgc 0,2050

My 2060's seems to be very stable with the 125MHz overclock on the core, and 800 on the memory with a power limit of 78%. Still getting around 1.8M PPD on these, despite dropping 200 watts on use. Ironically, the core restarts have stopped, which was caused by one of the 2060's. I have set a custom fan curve, as the default curve wasn't sufficient enough to keep the temperatures down. My system just sounds like gentle wind, for those wondering if this system was loud.

 

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Will continue to monitor, but I'm already liking the results of the lower power limits.

 

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36 minutes ago, LazyDev said:

My 2060's seems to be very stable with the 125MHz overclock on the core, and 800 on the memory with a power limit of 78%. Still getting around 1.8M PPD on these, despite dropping 200 watts on use. Ironically, the core restarts have stopped, which was caused by one of the 2060's. I have set a custom fan curve, as the default curve wasn't sufficient enough to keep the temperatures down. My system just sounds like gentle wind, for those wondering if this system was loud.

Will continue to monitor, but I'm already liking the results of the lower power limits.

 

I wouldn't really call it stable, you can see that your 2060 (folding slot 3) had 2 core restarts. One of those luckily was a dropped WU, but you probably lost a chunk of folded % and had to redo it. However, the first restart actually dropped a WU totally and you had to download new one. Now, I cannot know without full logs how much time those 2 restarts took out of folding but I can surely say that that was not worth it. The PPD you get from OC-ing is miserably low compared to risk of dropping a WU.

 

You did have luck in last few days (if you have ran same settings during that time). But those 2 restarts (on 25.11. and 26.11.) are not something you should aim for. Card may be stable on most WUs, but some will fail for sure. +125 CC is quite a lot imho, you should be happy if it has been working with that OC for so many days, especially if it is stable in benchmarks/games, but for Folding, I'd recommend you to drop it to at least +80 if not lower.

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@Favebook nice to catch up again man

 

 

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R9 3900x 4.25GHz All-Core // X570 Aorus Ultra // 32GB Predator 3200MHz // 3090 FTW3 Ultra // Meshify S2 White/Black (Foam Filter Delete)

(Upgrade in consideration: R9 5900x)

 

Folding Station - Polaris.

i7-4790k 4.8GHz // Z97X-UD5H // 32GB Dominator Platinum 2133MHz // 2080Ti Lightning Z // Define R6 (Front Panel Mod/Delete)

 

TV / LAN / VR machine - The Hiss.

R5 3600 4.25GHz All-Core // B450i Aorus Pro Wifi // 16GB Predator RGB 3200MHz // Vega64 Silver (Air) // Phanteks Evolv ITX (Front Panel Mod)

(Upgrade in consideration: R9 3900x 4.25GHz All-Core // B550i/X570i Aorus Pro Wifi // RTX 3080 XC3 Hybrid or 3080 Aero)

 

Laptop / Mobile Workstation

i7-8750H // Asus FX705GM // 32GB 2400MHz // 1060 6GB

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20 minutes ago, yaboistar said:

@Favebook nice to catch up again man

 

 

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Heh, enjoy your rank ups while you can, I gotta cover some electricity with my cards. Do not worry, I will catch you next year. 😉

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7 hours ago, LazyDev said:

My 2060's seems to be very stable with the 125MHz overclock on the core, and 800 on the memory with a power limit of 78%. Still getting around 1.8M PPD on these, despite dropping 200 watts on use. Ironically, the core restarts have stopped, which was caused by one of the 2060's. I have set a custom fan curve, as the default curve wasn't sufficient enough to keep the temperatures down. My system just sounds like gentle wind, for those wondering if this system was loud.

 

Will continue to monitor, but I'm already liking the results of the lower power limits.

My 2060 is a dog unfortunately and any o/c past +50 at stock power will result in bad WUs. My 2060 Super is much better.

 

The increase in power required from the Minimum power-limit to the Default does not, in general, scale linearly with the increase in PPD even with the mythical Quick Return Bonus. It's more of an exponential scaling.

 

I suspect the new CUDA cores are masking what little effect the QRB has even more.

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