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14 minutes ago, chaozbandit said:

2060 (specifically ko if you can manage it) due to more optimal core usage, according to this thread, though that was before the cuda point boost.

 

14 minutes ago, marknd59 said:

RTX 2060 super is a bit better $0.40 per 1M points

RTX 2060 $0.43 per 1M points

GTX 1660  $0.64 per 1M points

Perfect, thanks.  Prices are still currently big ooff for that for me though.

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2 hours ago, marknd59 said:

RTX 2060 super is a bit better $0.40 per 1M points

RTX 2060 $0.43 per 1M points

GTX 1660  $0.64 per 1M points

I am guessing the $'s are based on electricity and not cost of the card? 

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2 hours ago, Collin_S said:

I am guessing the $'s are based on electricity and not cost of the card? 

Somebody posted a spreadsheet a while back doing it both against prices and against power.  I believe it was based off of lars db for performance and listed power draw.  I'm not sure if they updated the sheet since the CUDA update or not.  With miners supposedly liking AMD 6000 cards even more, I'll be curious to see how that turns out for folding once they get properly optimized.

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10 minutes ago, justpoet said:

Somebody posted a spreadsheet a while back doing it both against prices and against power.  I believe it was based off of lars db for performance and listed power draw.  I'm not sure if they updated the sheet since the CUDA update or not.  With miners supposedly liking AMD 6000 cards even more, I'll be curious to see how that turns out for folding once they get properly optimized.

Pre Cuda update my Vega56 was a heck of a card at 175W and 1M PPD, now after the Cuda update it's not as awesome.

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2 minutes ago, Bitter said:

Pre Cuda update my Vega56 was a heck of a card at 175W and 1M PPD, now after the Cuda update it's not as awesome.

Is the card actually performing worse after the update, or just that it didn't see a performance uplift like the nv cards?

RDNA2 is also a drastically different animal.

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1 hour ago, justpoet said:

Is the card actually performing worse after the update, or just that it didn't see a performance uplift like the nv cards?

RDNA2 is also a drastically different animal.

Yea no Cuda no bonus. I mean 1M PPD for 175W is still not bad but if that was a Cuda card it would be like 1.5M PPD for 175W now. My P106-100 jumped from about 500K to 750K for the same wattage.

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Honestly, it looks like the way to fold efficiently for electricity is 2080 super maxq…but then you'd need to have recent laptops, and those usually only come on more upper end systems, and probably don't have decent cooling.  30 series appear to beat everything else for performance per watt, even if they're significantly more expensive to buy and use more watts overall.  2080 TI sucks for performance per watt unless it is a rev a.

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2 minutes ago, justpoet said:

Honestly, it looks like the way to fold efficiently for electricity is 2080 super maxq…but then you'd need to have recent laptops, and those usually only come on more upper end systems.  30 series appear to beat everything else for performance per watt, even if they're significantly more expensive to buy and use more watts overall.  2080 TI sucks for performance per watt unless it is a rev a.

I’m finding the 2070 Supers pretty good. I’m averaging 2.65-2.8MPPD on them at a 125W power limit. I don’t have any Ampere cards yet and likely won’t until the new year when they’re more available but from the initial numbers I’m seeing there’s not much of a performance uplift when you factor in the increased power draws.

 

@Bitter My 1660ti is averaging 1.08MPPD on a 70W power limit; 2060 1.82MPD on a 125W power limit and the 2060 Super 2.08MPPD on a 105W power limit

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1 hour ago, Gorgon said:

2060 1.82MPD on a 125W power limit

I too am now investigating my own system with this idea.. Thank you.

 

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5 minutes ago, RollinLower said:

are people folding on RX 6800 cards yet? and if so, what are the numbers looking like?

The DB says yes, but it is lumped together a lot, so unknown what is actually what.

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6 minutes ago, justpoet said:

The DB says yes, but it is lumped together a lot, so unknown what is actually what.

The 6900 XT has not been launched yet? So the results should be the 6800 / XT. The numbers are already on par with a 2080 super.

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1 hour ago, LazyDev said:

I too am now investigating my own system with this idea.. Thank you.

 

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Just be cautious with the Graphics Clock overclock. If you run it too high when a checkpoint occurs or some other activity that unloads the GPU the overclock can  force the Graphics clock to instability for a brief instant when the Workload returns.

 

On Turing you can Force a min/max graphics clock to limit the upper clock using:

nvidia-smi -i 0 --fgc 0,2050

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11 hours ago, Gorgon said:

Just be cautious with the Graphics Clock overclock. If you run it too high when a checkpoint occurs or some other activity that unloads the GPU the overclock can  force the Graphics clock to instability for a brief instant when the Workload returns.

 

On Turing you can Force a min/max graphics clock to limit the upper clock using:



nvidia-smi -i 0 --fgc 0,2050

My 2060's seems to be very stable with the 125MHz overclock on the core, and 800 on the memory with a power limit of 78%. Still getting around 1.8M PPD on these, despite dropping 200 watts on use. Ironically, the core restarts have stopped, which was caused by one of the 2060's. I have set a custom fan curve, as the default curve wasn't sufficient enough to keep the temperatures down. My system just sounds like gentle wind, for those wondering if this system was loud.

 

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Will continue to monitor, but I'm already liking the results of the lower power limits.

 

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36 minutes ago, LazyDev said:

My 2060's seems to be very stable with the 125MHz overclock on the core, and 800 on the memory with a power limit of 78%. Still getting around 1.8M PPD on these, despite dropping 200 watts on use. Ironically, the core restarts have stopped, which was caused by one of the 2060's. I have set a custom fan curve, as the default curve wasn't sufficient enough to keep the temperatures down. My system just sounds like gentle wind, for those wondering if this system was loud.

Will continue to monitor, but I'm already liking the results of the lower power limits.

 

I wouldn't really call it stable, you can see that your 2060 (folding slot 3) had 2 core restarts. One of those luckily was a dropped WU, but you probably lost a chunk of folded % and had to redo it. However, the first restart actually dropped a WU totally and you had to download new one. Now, I cannot know without full logs how much time those 2 restarts took out of folding but I can surely say that that was not worth it. The PPD you get from OC-ing is miserably low compared to risk of dropping a WU.

 

You did have luck in last few days (if you have ran same settings during that time). But those 2 restarts (on 25.11. and 26.11.) are not something you should aim for. Card may be stable on most WUs, but some will fail for sure. +125 CC is quite a lot imho, you should be happy if it has been working with that OC for so many days, especially if it is stable in benchmarks/games, but for Folding, I'd recommend you to drop it to at least +80 if not lower.

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20 minutes ago, yaboistar said:

@Favebook nice to catch up again man

 

 

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Heh, enjoy your rank ups while you can, I gotta cover some electricity with my cards. Do not worry, I will catch you next year. 😉

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7 hours ago, LazyDev said:

My 2060's seems to be very stable with the 125MHz overclock on the core, and 800 on the memory with a power limit of 78%. Still getting around 1.8M PPD on these, despite dropping 200 watts on use. Ironically, the core restarts have stopped, which was caused by one of the 2060's. I have set a custom fan curve, as the default curve wasn't sufficient enough to keep the temperatures down. My system just sounds like gentle wind, for those wondering if this system was loud.

 

Will continue to monitor, but I'm already liking the results of the lower power limits.

My 2060 is a dog unfortunately and any o/c past +50 at stock power will result in bad WUs. My 2060 Super is much better.

 

The increase in power required from the Minimum power-limit to the Default does not, in general, scale linearly with the increase in PPD even with the mythical Quick Return Bonus. It's more of an exponential scaling.

 

I suspect the new CUDA cores are masking what little effect the QRB has even more.

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just upgraded from my 3700x/RX590 to same 3700x but with a Asus TUF 3070 OC 8gb. ppd for GPU went from 346,000 ish to an estimated 3,000,000 ish. i'[ll let it run for a couple days and see how it really goes.

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I'm holding off swapping the 1650 until the 2600 arrives for the other PC, as more people fall off the folding bandwagon I'm moving up more. I wish hardware prices weren't so messed up right now, 2060's are going for $400 used!?!

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8 hours ago, Favebook said:

I wouldn't really call it stable, you can see that your 2060 (folding slot 3) had 2 core restarts. One of those luckily was a dropped WU, but you probably lost a chunk of folded % and had to redo it. However, the first restart actually dropped a WU totally and you had to download new one. Now, I cannot know without full logs how much time those 2 restarts took out of folding but I can surely say that that was not worth it. The PPD you get from OC-ing is miserably low compared to risk of dropping a WU.

 

You did have luck in last few days (if you have ran same settings during that time). But those 2 restarts (on 25.11. and 26.11.) are not something you should aim for. Card may be stable on most WUs, but some will fail for sure. +125 CC is quite a lot imho, you should be happy if it has been working with that OC for so many days, especially if it is stable in benchmarks/games, but for Folding, I'd recommend you to drop it to at least +80 if not lower.

So far, the 2060's have not stopped at all within the past 24 hours since I dropped the power limit. The overclock was hit and miss in terms of the core restarting, and most of the time it was not an issue. Today's numbers are impressive, considering I dropped 300 watts off the total system power draw. Something my bank account will love.

 

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Even more impressive is (Not the 69 work units completed) that I'm catching up with you :P

 

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1 hour ago, Gorgon said:

My 2060 is a dog unfortunately and any o/c past +50 at stock power will result in bad WUs. My 2060 Super is much better.

It seems that the 2060's that I have are very good, but yet again, they're the TU104 variant, the same core as my 2080 super.

 

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The 2060 that I have is the Gigabyte Mini ITX OC. https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-mini-itx-oc-6gb-gddr6-vr-ready-graphics-card-1920-core

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9 hours ago, LazyDev said:

So far, the 2060's have not stopped at all within the past 24 hours since I dropped the power limit. The overclock was hit and miss in terms of the core restarting, and most of the time it was not an issue. Today's numbers are impressive, considering I dropped 300 watts off the total system power draw. Something my bank account will love.

 

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It seems that the 2060's that I have are very good, but yet again, they're the TU104 variant, the same core as my 2080 super.

 

The 2060 that I have is the Gigabyte Mini ITX OC. https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-mini-itx-oc-6gb-gddr6-vr-ready-graphics-card-1920-core

So you're seeing a drop from 1400 to 1100W and from 14 to 13.7MPPD. So a back of the napkin calculation is you're efficiency went from 10,000 to 12,454 PPD/W.

 

What I observed with my mix of cards (and a different measuring method - Card Power Draw as reported by nvidia-smi versus Total System Power Draw from the PSU) was 1400 to 1100W and 24 to 22MPPD so 17,142 to 20,000PPD/W

 

My 2060 Super is a EVGA XC with a 1470 boost and 1695 boost clock. I suspect its just that I lost the Lottery with this card as my other cards all do much better. Typically I don't bother running an overclock with Default Power Limits but it does help when running a decreased Power Limit.

 

I suspect the TU104 die on the more recent 2060 Supers helps as well as it is likely a larger surface area so with a bunch of fused SMs the heat is more spread out and thus easier to dissipate even though most of these have crippled coolers. Maybe they're just all the same die and the variants have more to do with how many bad SMs they have and what they can clock to.

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Holy consistency Batman

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Never seen the chart flatline for three consecutive days like this before. Usually it spikes up/down like the previous week. 

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10 hours ago, LazyDev said:

So far, the 2060's have not stopped at all within the past 24 hours since I dropped the power limit. The overclock was hit and miss in terms of the core restarting, and most of the time it was not an issue. Today's numbers are impressive, considering I dropped 300 watts off the total system power draw. Something my bank account will love.

 

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Even more impressive is (Not the 69 work units completed) that I'm catching up with you :P

 

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Avoid having core restarting, it is much better for your PPD than overclocking. I learned it the hard way back in 2018. If you aim to fold all year around, consider putting slight overclock and dropping the power limit. 

 

You can even see my only 2080 Super with 55% PL and small OC (+30CC/+250MC) has been stably folding since event ended for exactly 2.73M and it is using a fraction of power that it used during an event when I OC-ed it to 105% PL same OC and it did between 2.8-3.2M PPD.

 

Ah, yes, all of you who will pass me this year will have a hard job keeping your spots during next year. All my GPUs are currently mining to recuperate from folding months bill. Also, I'll have to ask Jason from EoC to start accepting crypto donations, as converting crypto to PayPal is a hassle nowadays and using credit card to donate money to PayPal is not something I am into. Their fees and conversion rates are absurd.

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1 hour ago, yaboistar said:

is anyone else's client just not downloading work? it happened overnight and while i've been out at work today so i've produced shit all since 11am my time. 

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really useful especially when i wanted to balance out having to run fs2020 to download updates tonight by running extra units over the day.

All good here. Maybe try to restart F@H?

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