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Car Enthusiast Club [Now Motorcycle friendly!] - First thread to 150k! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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26 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Don't lump me in with them. I'm an enthusiast of mechanic design, be it engines, weaponry, or productive machinery. Not a guy with a wrench that reads the marketing garbage AFE/insert other "enthusiast" brand that can't legally warranty half of their products.

 

I fail to see a correlation between people screeching variations of "forced induction is more efficient!!! Reclaimed energy!!!" and anything I've said.

If you can't be civil. Please leave

 

Edit. That goes for everyone in the thread

21 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

Trust me, THIS site is the place where I spend more time than I'd like to admit :D 

I dont spend as much time on this site as I used to. It's still on my default chrome pages so I get notifications when people respond, but I dont wander around much anymore. 

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3 hours ago, Dylanc1500 said:

Just want to clarify if you meant non-profit, or not-for-profit? Since the institutions are quite different.

 

I agree it is quite upsetting, I personally have him and my grandfather to thank for where I am in life. I am glad my grandfather was decently close to him, leading of course to me getting to know him. He did a lot behind the scenes that people never knew about, and he never asked for recognition it. 

non-profit sorry I was typing quickly and didn't realize I blended the two. 

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10,000 pages is so far away... lol

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8 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

10,000 pages is so far away... lol

You could say that, yeah.

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my work gives out turkeys and hams for every full time employee for thanksgiving.


thought that was so awesome.

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Just now, JoaoPRSousa said:

 

We're already past 5000. That's quite the milestone already.

*proudness intensifies*

lol seems like theres been a bit of activity since I was last here. 

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5 minutes ago, brownninja97 said:

lol seems like theres been a bit of activity since I was last here. 

 

Ahahahahahahahahah

a bit you say

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I don't actively seek out of make playlists on YouTube for music...If I'm working, I just type "lowfi" or "chillhop", and maybe even "stream"....and just listen to whatever 24/7 station pops up. It's only background noise anyway.


 

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70s Toyotas are gorgeous

 

Image result for 1976 corolla SR5

 

They're like mini muscle cars. 70s Japanese cars in general.

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1 hour ago, Cereal5 said:

70s Toyotas are gorgeous

 

Image result for 1976 corolla SR5

 

They're like mini muscle cars. 70s Japanese cars in general.

yep. my dream is to one day own a 1st ten celica lift back. they look like a Japanese mustang.

 

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1 minute ago, FuzzyYellow said:

yep. my dream is to one day own a 1st ten celiac lift back. they look like a Japanese mustang.

 

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I literally thought that was some weird mustang at first glance lmao. 4 Spoke wheels are fantastic...

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1 hour ago, chaozbandit said:

I got a new found respect for the HKS 86's time seeing him lift to shift and heel-toe downshift and still running those times... although the hammer head still had to rev match but didn't have to use the clutch, he braked with his left foot and blipped with his right...

 

also, motive being haters and not including the 2 civics which were faster than half the cars they did include.. :D 

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8 hours ago, Maybach123 said:

non-profit sorry I was typing quickly and didn't realize I blended the two. 

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So because my right upper fearing got smashed and a new set of fearings is like €500 or something I decided I'd fix it myself with some fiberglass :D

Not amazingly good but I think it went well for my first ever try at this:

Sanded and taped together:

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And hardened up:

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Need to trim it a bit but it seems to be holding up OK :D

 

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10 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

So because my right upper fearing got smashed and a new set of fearings is like €500 or something I decided I'd fix it myself with some fiberglass :D

Not amazingly good but I think it went well for my first ever try at this:

Sanded and taped together:

 

And hardened up:

 

 

Need to trim it a bit but it seems to be holding up OK :D

 

Didn't know you had a bike. Might I ask what bike? Also, hope you didn't drop it or anything. Looks like a pretty good patch job to my untrained eye

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1 hour ago, Cereal5 said:

Didn't know you had a bike. Might I ask what bike? Also, hope you didn't drop it or anything. Looks like a pretty good patch job to my untrained eye

Have a GS500E

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#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

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18 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

Have a GS500E

 

 

I lied, I knew I just didn't remember. Yes I want an EX500 (ninja). the older 500CC bikes are good looking imo. How does it perform?

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10 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

I lied, I knew I just didn't remember. Yes I want an EX500 (ninja). the older 500CC bikes are good looking imo. How does it perform?

Well it goes fast :P

But that's only from a guy that's only been on a 50cc moped before. Acceleration is good and easy but passing power is kinda meh at 80+ km/h. Mine is supposed to be 25KW limited because of the old A2 lisence standards but I'm pretty sure it's not and that it has more power than stock even because it goes faster than the stock top speed XD

Over all I'm really pleased with the performance as its pretty easy to ride but I do feel like I want more torque tbh

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#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

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5 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

Well it goes fast :P

But that's only from a guy that's only been on a 50cc moped before. Acceleration is good and easy but passing power is kinda meh at 80+ km/h. Mine is supposed to be 25KW limited because of the old A2 lisence standards but I'm pretty sure it's not and that it has more power than stock even because it goes faster than the stock top speed XD

 

Over all I'm really pleased with the performance as its pretty easy to ride but I do feel like I want more torque tbh

 

I remember the first day you rode it and you came on here shocked at how much power it had.

 

now you want more xD it never ends man...

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For those of you running too much boost:

 

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Hi, got a question right there. TL;DR incoming...
Why do in the US (Or at least outside of Italy, where I live) really don't like and always spit sh*t about FIAT's and related marks reliability?(Alfa romeo, Lancia, Chrysler) 

In my opinion they are not better or worse than others, every car company had flaws in the past, I can think of the Alfa Alfasud which was built in Italy in a period where all workers were always on a strike (internal government issues) and the first models had serious quality problems, but other car makers are not different.

Speaking in today days in particular, my dad in his life owned two gasoline Alfa's, a 147 and a Giulietta, as well as a VW Polo, and an Opel/Vauhall Astra, Mercedes A Class
Him is the worst thing you can think of a bad car maintainer. (He has a tough job and doesn't have time to care about cars)

  • Always the worst and cheapest mechanic that most of the time he fix something brokes another one
  • Oil change? Timing belt and spark plugs? Lol never changed them before an issue occurs.
  • Always running on low gasoline
     

As you can imagine, in all those kind of cars he always had the same issues. Clogged fuel pump, ignition misfires (after a lot of km's) and the most realiable car he had was the 147 1.6l that lasted 240.000km's 150.000miles with relatively few and easy to repair issues. (Water pump at 140.000 km's, where he also changed the timing belt, he never changed it before) before it was dying out of misfires. At this point he just sold the car instead, probably the spark plug or ignition coil, he never changed them

The 2010 Giulietta he is using right now just had a few electrical issues because this car was not used, and under the sun for 2 years (the car is black) and had some wires literally cooked, I don't think if there are cook-proof wires out there lmao but whatever. 
Apart from that, no mechanical issues whatsoever, he is at 140.000km/s and I'm taking care of it doing the regular maintenance. 
The worst was the Mercedes class A which broke the timing chain at 98.000km's

Bad luck? Idk, I don't spit crap just because of a single issue, but in my opinion people are blaming about FIAT for the wrong reason.

FIAT bought Alfa Romeo and Lancia, in the 80's, especially Lancia. It was a sports and luxury car company, always winning on rally's (Don't tell me you don't know about the Stratos or Delta integrale, they had a really strong brand potential)


What they did you would ask? FIATS, they just shared the FIAT's platforms and just basically made a FIAT with a Lancia logo with fiat engines and people just stopped buying them. They basically destroyed everything about Lancia today. (The Chrysler Thema sucks tbh) 

They also did that with Alfa, look at the Alfa Mito, has the same engine and platform as the new Fiat 500/Abarth but at least in some cases they used decent engines and accidentally made probably the best FWD car of the 20's (the 147 V6 Busso is a good piece of car and it is the same V6 Alfa used in the past, but it became old today)
Oh yes, they also stopped producing the RWD Alfa's before the Giulia. 

Basically what they did were throwing out in the bin all the Alfa and Lancia engine technologies like the Twincam, twin spark, and busso engines without even a single improvement.
Yea I know about the Alfa Giulia, it's a great car but not a direct improvement from the past they just put a Ferrari engine on an alfa german/like sedan with RWD. Yea, it's good but not what people expected.

People who always drove old Alfa's would like to see double camshafts again, oh anyway FIAT It's not even an truly Italian mark anymore, they are not even paying taxes in Italy lmao.

 

At least they are investing money on Alfa (not on what people including me would really like to see but whatever...) but the Lancia situation is something that makes you want to cry but what is seems to me is just FIAT wanting to make the most profit of every thing they can without doing what people would really like.

And... that's why imho people should be mad about FIAT in my opinion. I'm not saying other car marks don't want to make profit but.. At least they seem to care about their marks.

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