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8400GS runs at really high temperatures

So I scraped my dad’s old pc for parts and built a computer. I set up arch Linux on it and decided to use Nvidia’s proprietary drivers with the 8400 GS that was in there as they’re supposed to perform better than the nouveau ones. However, when I checked the thermal settings in the nvidia settings, I noticed it was running between 70 and 80 degrees Celsius. I shut down, let it sit for a few hours and started it back up and opened the nvidia settings again. It was still running at the same temperatures. Anyone know what’s going on and how I can fix these temperatures?

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Does the fan kick in ?

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Those have really crap coolers afaik, so dont expect good temps. Anything under 85c is fine

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1 minute ago, Thermosman said:

Those have really crap coolers afaik, so dont expect good temps. Anything under 85c is fine

So that’s normal for that card? 

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5 minutes ago, AA-RonRosen said:

So that’s normal for that card? 

It's not 100% normal. It's over 10 years old, though, so the thermal paste is probably ruined by now. Try a repaste and clean and make sure the case has some airflow.

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1 minute ago, NelizMastr said:

It's not 100% normal. It's over 10 years old, though, so the thermal paste is probably ruined by now. Try a repaste and clean and make sure the case has some airflow.

Okay, I will definitely do that when I get home. Might also be a good idea to run a stress test to see the temperatures under load. Thanks for your help and thank you too @Thermosman

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16 minutes ago, AA-RonRosen said:

So I scraped my dad’s old pc for parts and built a computer. I set up arch Linux on it and decided to use Nvidia’s proprietary drivers with the 8400 GS that was in there as they’re supposed to perform better than the nouveau ones. However, when I checked the thermal settings in the nvidia settings, I noticed it was running between 70 and 80 degrees Celsius. I shut down, let it sit for a few hours and started it back up and opened the nvidia settings again. It was still running at the same temperatures. Anyone know what’s going on and how I can fix these temperatures?

Oh I overclocked one of those once, rubbish card. It does have a serious thermal issue, being hotter than a $2 pistol and worse than a GT710. A better cooler or at least newer better TIM if you really wanna fix it. 

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3 minutes ago, Lord Nicoll said:

Oh I overclocked one of those once, rubbish card. It does have a serious thermal issue, being hotter than a $2 pistol and worse than a GT710. A better cooler or at least newer better TIM if you really wanna fix it. 

Know of a place where I could buy a better cooler for it?

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1 minute ago, AA-RonRosen said:

Know of a place where I could buy a better cooler for it?

Why would you spend money improving what is already an abysmal card ?

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4 minutes ago, AA-RonRosen said:

Know of a place where I could buy a better cooler for it?

If you don't already have a cooler that'll fit, don't get a better one, you'd be wasting money and I made mine from copper but I was doing it for points. Buy a GT 1030 if you need a good low power GPU, the 1030 will rekt the 8400 GS and then go back for seconds and desert. Hell a GT 730/GT710 would be better if you can find one for sub $30

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2 minutes ago, Generallee said:

Why would you spend money improving what is already an abysmal card ?

I’m just looking at options. If it’s for a really low price, it might be worth it. I don’t expect it to be though. 

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1 minute ago, Lord Nicoll said:

If you don't already have a cooler that'll fit, don't get a better one, you'd be wasting money and I made mine from copper but I was doing it for points. Buy a GT 1030 if you need a good low power GPU, the 1030 will rekt the 8400 GS and then go back for seconds and desert. Hell a GT 730/GT710 would be better if you can find one for sub $30

Alright, I’ll look for a new one if it doesn’t survive the stress test.  Thanks for your help. 

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Just now, AA-RonRosen said:

Alright, I’ll look for a new one if it doesn’t survive the stress test.  Thanks for your help. 

I mean I ran mine without the cooler to try to kill it but it just shutdown, those older cards are kinda harder to kill. 

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Just now, Thermosman said:

I own one so i could test the temps if you want

That would be great if you could do that. Thanks 

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Just now, AA-RonRosen said:

That would be great if you could do that. Thanks 

Ok, i will but ill have to get back to you later today or tommorow, I'm not at home

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Heck, my GTX1080 runs at 83°C and it's fine! :) push that lil bitch to it's thermal limits, lol. 

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1 minute ago, Lord Nicoll said:

I mean I ran mine without the cooler to try to kill it but it just shutdown, those older cards are kinda harder to kill. 

If they’re that durable then I’ll attempt an overclock if I can get the temperatures low enough. 

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2 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Heck, my GTX1080 runs at 83°C and it's fine! :) push that lil bitch to it's thermal limits, lol. 

Survives a stress test?

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Did some extra research and looks like the safe temperature for graphics cards is a bit higher than cpus. Looks like I’m stressing over nothing. Still though, thanks guys for the help 

 

edit: for anyone wondering, the maximum safe temperature for these cards is 122 degrees Celsius. I am not sure how accurate that is but I’ll link where I got my information. 

https://forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=608323&p=1

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A friend had that card and man, 93C while playing and around 70 idling, it had a fan but it was junk so the card was running almost on passive cooling all the time

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15 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

A friend had that card and man, 93C while playing and around 70 idling, it had a fan but it was junk so the card was running almost on passive cooling all the time

Yeah, apparently those cards could run pretty hot. Wonder if the reason for that crappy cooler is because it didn’t need it much. 

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10 minutes ago, AA-RonRosen said:

Yeah, apparently those cards could run pretty hot. Wonder if the reason for that crappy cooler is because it didn’t need it much. 

The horrid cooler is because it was the absolute cheapest way to keep the GPU from physically failing.

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2 hours ago, AA-RonRosen said:

Survives a stress test?

Should, my 980 Ti maxes at 83C in summer and stays there for hours of gaming and benchmarks with 0 issues. 

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Just now, Zando Bob said:

Should, my 980 Ti maxes at 83C in summer and stays there for hours of gaming and benchmarks with 0 issues. 

Yeah, I was definitely overreacting. Good to know that GPUs are much different from cpus in terms of safe temperatures 

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