FSLabs intentionally installing DRM that can steal your passwords

[mr moose]

1 minute ago, dalekphalm said:

No worries.

 

Anyway, I'm 99% sure this is illegal in Canada and the US. Probably in the UK, and Australia as well.

 

Just because pirating software is also illegal (depends on country), does not give them a free pass.

Definitely illegal in it's current form.

 

But my question was, if they disclosed very clearly that their DRM will extract passwords if they think there is a problem, would it be illegal then?

[dalekphalm]

11 hours ago, mr moose said:

Definitely illegal in it's current form.

 

But my question was, if they disclosed very clearly that their DRM will extract passwords if they think there is a problem, would it be illegal then?

No. Yes.

 

Of course not.

 

That part of the EULA/TOS would be void and null. No user would willingly consent to those kinds of terms. Whether they're up front about it or not, them going into your browser and dumping your passwords is definitely illegal.

[asus killer]

Something like a EULA/TOS doesn't make law, they have to abide to the law like anyone else, if not they are just simply null and void.

[LAwLz]

6 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

No.

 

Of course not.

 

That part of the EULA/TOS would be void and null. No user would willingly consent to those kinds of terms. Whether they're up front about it or not, them going into your browser and dumping your passwords is definitely illegal.

I think you just did the same mistake I did

 

6 hours ago, mr moose said:

if they disclosed very clearly that their DRM will extract passwords if they think there is a problem, would it be illegal then?

6 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

No.

 

Of course not.

 

 

6 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

No user would willingly consent to those kinds of terms.

You would be surprised by how incredibly obedient and complaint some people are.

I have no problem imagining some people agreeing to that because "well I have nothing to hide anyway, so why shouldn't they have my password?".

But that's why we need laws. To protect stupid people who doesn't know any better.

[dalekphalm]

5 hours ago, LAwLz said:

I think you just did the same mistake I did

 

 

 

You would be surprised by how incredibly obedient and complaint some people are.

I have no problem imagining some people agreeing to that because "well I have nothing to hide anyway, so why shouldn't they have my password?".

But that's why we need laws. To protect stupid people who doesn't know any better.

Lmao yep - totally thought he said legal. I corrected my post.

 

Exactly. But even in those cases, all you need to do is explain to them "that includes your banking too", and some of them will be like "WHAT? I DID NOT CONSIDER THIS THOROUGHLY!"

 

But you're right. There will always be morons that wilfully give away their privacy and rights out of misguided brand loyalty.

 

But even though they are "giving up" those rights, I don't think they legally can.

 

For example, a bank certainly wouldn't authorize you giving your login details to a random FSX add-on dev. Same with the CRA/IRS (tax bureau).

[mr moose]

13 hours ago, LAwLz said:

I think you just did the same mistake I did

 

 

 

You would be surprised by how incredibly obedient and complaint some people are.

I have no problem imagining some people agreeing to that because "well I have nothing to hide anyway, so why shouldn't they have my password?".

But that's why we need laws. To protect stupid people who doesn't know any better.

 

8 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

Lmao yep - totally thought he said legal. I corrected my post.

 

Exactly. But even in those cases, all you need to do is explain to them "that includes your banking too", and some of them will be like "WHAT? I DID NOT CONSIDER THIS THOROUGHLY!"

 

But you're right. There will always be morons that wilfully give away their privacy and rights out of misguided brand loyalty.

 

But even though they are "giving up" those rights, I don't think they legally can.

 

For example, a bank certainly wouldn't authorize you giving your login details to a random FSX add-on dev. Same with the CRA/IRS (tax bureau).

 

I noticed but had an emergency to attend and couldn't respond.