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1080Ti vs. Quake 1?

DrDerp

So I just got bored, and was thinking about a 1080Ti and how far we’ve come between the first 3D Graphics card and now. Then I thought; what if someone put the Crysis of the mid 90’s up against it? 4K Resolution? Can Quake even scale to that through tweaking? How many FPS would it get?

Who needs fancy graphics and high resolutions when you can get a 60 FPS frame rate on iGPUs?

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1 minute ago, WereCat said:

You will be CPU limited, GPU will barely have to work.

 

Assuming there is no other limitation like the game engine.

Game engine for sure, software would be the bottleneck... like the constant issue with crazy fps fluctuation people with the highest and latest end computers out there are facing when playing games like cs:go/titanfall 2 right now due to Source being simply too old by now.

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1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Game engine for sure, software would be the bottleneck... like the constant issue with crazy fps fluctuation people with the highest and latest end computers out there are facing when playing games like cs:go/titanfall 2 right now due to Source being simply too old by now.

Idtech3 (I think it’s three correct me if I’m wrong) is a surprisingly usable engine nowadays with tweaks.

Who needs fancy graphics and high resolutions when you can get a 60 FPS frame rate on iGPUs?

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1 minute ago, DrDerp said:

Idtech3 (I think it’s three correct me if I’m wrong) is a surprisingly usable engine nowadays with tweaks.

Quake 1 is id tech 1.5 (called quake engine at the time). But yes, you can tweak it pretty much at will and, since the game has been open source for years, there are plenty of ports and improvements with support for high resolutions and more modern effects (although there's a limit to how good you can make a 1996 game look).

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Just now, DrDerp said:

Idtech3 (I think it’s three correct me if I’m wrong) is a surprisingly usable engine nowadays with tweaks.

Not really Coffee Lake and Pascal also are not all friendly to it, these tweaks are getting more and more needed to keep compatibility... regardless all engines reaches a point they need to be upgraded on their cores, as I given the example, VALVe should already have done the Source 2 port to their most popular games like CS:GO and TF2... since these issues are becoming more and more apparent.

 

You can't have a 2018 game launching on an engine designed back in 2003, there is a limit heheheh.

 

Not saying it won't work, for now, but that aim for the future always is the best solution rather than keep finding ways around having old stuff still running "fine" on the latest architectures.

 

Just my view though.

 

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Just now, Sakkura said:

I played Quake 1 in VR maybe a year and a half ago. Works fine with the mod.

That sounds kinda intense...

Strafing around giant monsters in VR anyways.

Who needs fancy graphics and high resolutions when you can get a 60 FPS frame rate on iGPUs?

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1 minute ago, DrDerp said:

That sounds kinda intense...

Strafing around giant monsters in VR anyways.

Well you can always play Doom VFR, LOL

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2 minutes ago, Roman848 said:

Well you can always play Doom VFR, LOL

I don’t even have a graphics card...

So that’s where low spec YouTube videos come in.

Who needs fancy graphics and high resolutions when you can get a 60 FPS frame rate on iGPUs?

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Just now, DrDerp said:

I don’t even have a graphics card...

So that’s where the Low Spec Gamer comes in!

Pity.... i can send you 8800 GT. But it has some artifacts and was in the oven once :D:D

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Just now, Roman848 said:

Pity.... i can send you 8800 GT. But it has some artifacts and was in the oven once :D:D

Hey, it’s a legitamate cure sometimes!

Anyways I’m fine in the mean time, not enough time for gaming. So I’m just watinf until the miners jump ship for a decently priced low profile GTX 1050 TI.

Who needs fancy graphics and high resolutions when you can get a 60 FPS frame rate on iGPUs?

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Just now, DrDerp said:

Hey, it’s a legitamate cure sometimes!

Anyways I’m fine in the mean time, not enough time for gaming. So I’m just watinf until the miners jump ship for a decently priced low profile GTX 1050 TI.

Yeah, saw that post. *offtopic*

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If you're going to use the original Quake, there's a problem: it's a DOS game. There are source ports though to Windows. But even then, the game engine is only going to run on a single core and the FPS might be capped due to how game designers did things back then.

 

Though this is reminding me of the time I managed to get 4-digit frame rates in 3DMark 03's Game 1 Test a few years ago.

 

EDIT: A GTX 1080 can get ~2000 FPS on average in 3DMark 03. Lovely.

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4 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

If you're going to use the original Quake, there's a problem: it's a DOS game. There are source ports though to Windows. But even then, the game engine is only going to run on a single core and the FPS might be capped due to how game designers did things back then.

 

Though this is reminding me of the time I managed to get 4-digit frame rates in 3DMark 03's Game 1 Test a few years ago.

 

EDIT: A GTX 1080 can get ~2000 FPS on average in 3DMark 03. Lovely.

One guy cranked the settings of Half Life 2 all the way down and got a max of a little under 1000 FPS on a 1050 I think.

Who needs fancy graphics and high resolutions when you can get a 60 FPS frame rate on iGPUs?

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