Bungie Admitting Their Mistakes With Destiny 2 and 'Apologizing'

[IamODIN]

Message from Bungie's news article:

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With Curse of Osiris now live, it’s clear that we’ve made some mistakes with how we have handled content access. We would like to talk through the reasoning behind our decisions so far and what we are committed to changing moving forward.

 

The Destiny endgame features a variety of activities and playlists that we want to remain relevant to players as they grow more powerful. In Destiny 1, as your character grew more powerful throughout each expansion, some of our best content, like Vault of Glass, was left behind and lost its relevance for players. We wanted a better solution for Destiny 2, where all of our Endgame activities could stay relevant as each Expansion causes your Guardian to grow more and more powerful.

 

The following were our goals when we separated “Normal” and “Prestige” modes:

• The Normal Leviathan Raid and Normal Nightfall would always stay at a Power level that was accessible to all players.
• Prestige difficulty would always rise to the new Power cap.  It could be the pinnacle of challenge, with the most prestigious rewards, but it therefore would require you to own the latest Expansion and be at the new Power cap.

 

Additionally, the game provides Seasonal, time-limited PvP playlists – Trials of The Nine and Iron Banner. These activities and their rewards are meant to evolve each Season, and they utilize new maps, so they would require you to own the latest content. To play the latest season of Iron Banner or Trials, and earn the new rewards, players would need to own Curse of Osiris. 

 

We’ve heard from the community that both of these plans aren’t working. The Prestige Raid was a novel experience that players value, even if they don’t own Curse of Osiris, and it was a mistake to move that experience out of reach. Throughout the lifetime of the Destiny Franchise, Trials has always required that players owned the latest Expansion. However, for Destiny 2, Trials of The Nine launched as part of the main game, so it’s not right for us to remove access to it.

 

To make matters worse, our team overlooked the fact that both of these mistakes disabled Trophies and Achievements for Destiny 2. This was an unacceptable lapse on our part, and we can understand the frustration it has created.

 

Therefore, this week, we will release a hotfix that will make the following changes:

 

• The Prestige Leviathan Raid will be brought back down to Power 300, and its rewards will drop down to match the new Power Level. All players will regain access to the Prestige Raid.
  • This will allow access to “The Prestige” Achievement/Trophy for all players.
  • This will also allow all players ability to complete the final step for the Legend of Acrius Exotic Shotgun.

 

• Trials of The Nine will only require Curse of Osiris when it features a Curse of Osiris map. For all other weeks, it will be available to all players.
  • This will allow access to “Lest Ye Be Judged” Achievement/Trophy for all players.
  • Trials of The Nine rewards that launched with Destiny 2 will still be accessible to all players.
  • New Seasonal Rewards that launched with Curse of Osiris, such as the new Seasonal Armor Ornaments, will require ownership of Curse of Osiris to acquire.

 

• The Prestige Nightfall will remain a pinnacle activity, at the new 330 Power cap.    
  • This means Prestige Nightfall will require ownership of Curse of Osiris.
  • Because of this, we will update “The Prestige” Achievement/Trophy to only reference The Prestige Raid.
  • Moving forward, we are investigating adding a 3rd difficulty to all Prestige activities, so that we can provide both a challenge that stays relevant with each new Expansion, and a Prestige version that is available to all players.

 

• Normal Nightfall will only require Curse of Osiris when it features a Curse of Osiris map. For all other weeks it will be available to all players.

 

• Time limited events – Iron Banner, Faction Rally, and The Dawning, will be made available to all players.
  • We will be postponing tomorrow’s Faction Rally, to ensure all of our players can access the activity and the appropriate rewards.
  • Iron Banner and Faction Rally rewards that launched with Destiny 2 will still be accessible to all players.
  • New Seasonal Rewards that launch with Curse of Osiris, such as the new Seasonal Armor Ornaments, will require ownership of Curse of Osiris to acquire.

 

We expect these changes to go live tomorrow at the end of scheduled maintenance to deploy Update 1.1.1.1. Moving forward, we are also looking to improve on Heroic Strikes, with new challenges, new Modifiers, and free access for all players.

 

Thank you for your patience and feedback as we work to continuously improve the Destiny 2 experience.

 

-- The Destiny Dev Team

 

Source: https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/46537

 

---Im kinda new to the game but my point of view is that the game mechanics is very well balanced but with that said.. i like where bungie is going, admitting their false's upfront instead of trying to make excuses to pursue them. i just hope this game won't turn into a pay to win kinda game and i think thats why people were staying away from it 

[Guest]

Sooo... Why did you spam this? What did you add? What is your opinion? Really shitty post.

[Matu20]

Apology won't do shit for the customer, product is still bad.

[GoodBytes]

Does not comply - Moved to PC gaming  forum section until it is fixed.

[IamODIN]

3 hours ago, Dutch-stoner said:

Sooo... Why did you spam this? What did you add? What is your opinion? Really shitty post.

how is this considered spam? i simply shared news with the site. i didnt know opinions is required for sharing information.. why do you care about my opinion tho

[paddy-stone]

11 minutes ago, IamODIN said:

how is this considered spam? i simply shared news with the site. i didnt know opinions is required for sharing information.. why do you care about my opinion tho

He's referring to the posting guidelines for the news and reviews section, to go in that section they have to follow the rules as posted here.

 

[IamODIN]

15 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

He's referring to the posting guidelines for the news and reviews section, to go in that section they have to follow the rules as posted here.

 

but i don't see a duplicate anywhere so im confused

[paddy-stone]

3 minutes ago, IamODIN said:

but i don't see a duplicate anywhere so im confused

It's not about duplicates, read the guidelines, it says that opinions must be given, quotes etc..

[IamODIN]

1 hour ago, paddy-stone said:

It's not about duplicates, read the guidelines, it says that opinions must be given, quotes etc..

i did so

[GoodBytes]

I'll speak generally:

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• Explain the news in your own words
• Use Quotes (using the forum to quote boxes, and not just hit the quote key on your keyboard).
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[TheGreatWizardCalder]

They really need to give D2 the Realm Reborn treatment. 
Because I've put maybe 150 hours into the game, and it sucks.
There's almost no motivation to even login, I completed the main story and most of the side content of the first "expansion" in like <6 hours. Yes, a 25$ (CAD) has <10 hours of content total [haven't done the "new raid" (it's in the same location as the last one and everything, it's more like adding on to the one in the base game, which is also a joke by the way), and I have no motivation to at this time]

[ItsTheDuckAgain]

I spend a lot of money for shitty stuff over the last 40 years on this planet, including being ripped off by some Egyptian tour guide, bought basketball tickets I then totally forgot about, bought overpriced wine and so on. Basically life happens and despite what others may say I am still human.

 

But the ~60€ for Destiny 2 really still bug me.... Seriously what was I thinking?

It's pay 2 win (not Battlefront style but still...) no matter what they say. The power level thing is just braindead stupid and the so called "community" consists off 12 year old pimple-faces that wouldn't dare to speak to me in public any given day of the week. In retrospect I would rather spend those 60€ on chilly and rub it in my eyes like it seems to be a thing with kids these days. (I love Darwinism, we need more of it. Just remove all safety instructions and let things happen. That will solve a ton of problems for the next generations...)

[IamODIN]

1 hour ago, ItsTheDuckAgain said:

I spend a lot of money for shitty stuff over the last 40 years on this planet, including being ripped off by some Egyptian tour guide, bought basketball tickets I then totally forgot about, bought overpriced wine and so on. Basically life happens and despite what others may say I am still human.

 

But the ~60€ for Destiny 2 really still bug me.... Seriously what was I thinking?

It's pay 2 win (not Battlefront style but still...) no matter what they say. The power level thing is just braindead stupid and the so called "community" consists off 12 year old pimple-faces that wouldn't dare to speak to me in public any given day of the week. In retrospect I would rather spend those 60€ on chilly and rub it in my eyes like it seems to be a thing with kids these days. (I love Darwinism, we need more of it. Just remove all safety instructions and let things happen. That will solve a ton of problems for the next generations...)

it may improve over time. dont give up hope!

[leelaa14]

Hmm, I watched ACG's video on this and I fully agree with him. Basically his opinion is the devs knew exactly what they were doing and were caught out. He also says the consumer takes it a lot better if the devs come out and say they made a mistake and they didn't know, rather than admitting were being scum and cramming DLC down our throat.

[mr195]

On 12/13/2017 at 12:16 PM, leelaa14 said:

Hmm, I watched ACG's video on this and I fully agree with him. Basically his opinion is the devs knew exactly what they were doing and were caught out. He also says the consumer takes it a lot better if the devs come out and say they made a mistake and they didn't know, rather than admitting were being scum and cramming DLC down our throat.

Yep gotta agree that I think Bungie and Activision knew exactly what they were doing, as I've read they did the exact same thing with D1 but just didn't get that much flak for it. It always frustrates me personally to see a company write in a statement "We've heard community feedback" or "We know we've made mistakes and we have learned from it." Because these things happen multiple times coming from the same devs/publishers. They are just taking us around the block and thinking of a way to do the same exact thing without more people catching on and sparking an outrage like in this instance or even more so with EA's recent Battlefront 2 debacle.

[Praesi]

The short Version:

 

"We are are greedy Fucks and thought you are retarded enough to eat our BS. Sorry"