driver_irql_not_less_or_equal 8700k Overclock

[gabby131]

Hello!

 

I just 'side' graded to a 8700k, ASUS Maximus X Hero, and a Corsair Vengeance DDR4 2666mhz RAM.

Overclocking again after a few years and all I did so far is XMP and change multiplier.  I have auto in voltage, cooler so far can handle it.

 

however at 5.0ghz in auto-volts (transformers?) i get BSOD: driver_irql_not_less_or_equal (sometimes KMODE fah-flah-flah) on cinebench.

 

My questions: is this error RAM related?

 

I already did: CPU is max at 85C (deg) on stress test, full wipe windows 10, and re-downloaded/updated all drivers.

At stock CPU clocks with XMP - no errors

At 4.8-4.9 CPU overclock - no errors

Memory test at XMP speeds - no errors

I understand that my ram, in time of posting, is not supported on the Mobo's QVL.

 

Don't get me wrong, 4.9ghz it freakin' fast (my last CPU was able to get 4.5ghz), just wanna know so I could bump the overclock more as I have headroom, and I have not tweaked vcore yet.

 

Thank you and regards,

[porina]

That BSOD can happen randomly when system is unstable for any reason. Most likely you either need more volts or less clocks. What is the actual voltage it is running at (under load)? 85C is hotter than'd I'd like for long term stability.

 

Edit: should add, I doubt it is the ram, it's pretty slow and safe.

[gabby131]

16 minutes ago, porina said:

That BSOD can happen randomly when system is unstable for any reason. Most likely you either need more volts or less clocks. What is the actual voltage it is running at (under load)? 85C is hotter than'd I'd like for long term stability.

 

Edit: should add, I doubt it is the ram, it's pretty slow and safe.

Hmmm interesting....in that case, my chip is not 5ghz capable.

I knew someone's gonna ask for voltage while in load....hopefully you're ready for this....it's at 1.408.

I understand it's high for stock/auto-volts.  I will start tweaking.

 

Thank you so much

 

PS:  i guess i need to update my sig too.

[racer243l]

Auto voltage? Not what I would do to find a stable OC.

Start in manual mode. If you have a stable voltage, try it with adaptive for some energy saving.

[reptileexperts]

4 minutes ago, gabby131 said:

Hmmm interesting....in that case, my chip is not 5ghz capable.

I knew someone's gonna ask for voltage while in load....hopefully you're ready for this....it's at 1.408.

I understand it's high for stock/auto-volts.  I will start tweaking.

 

Thank you so much

 

PS:  i guess i need to update my sig too.

1.408 isn't horrific. A lot of folks are requiring around 1.4v for a stable 5.0, would not go over around 1.45v for long term. It may be a case of too much voltage as well. Get off of auto and go to adaptive. Start undervolting at 50 on core and see if you see stability increase. Reference, mine is on 1.35v for 5.01ghz

[gabby131]

1 minute ago, racer243l said:

Auto voltage? Not what I would do to find a stable OC.

Start in manual mode. If you have a stable voltage, try it with adaptive for some energy saving.

Greetings,

 

I understand yes, I just wanna see a starting point and it seems this mobo feeds the chip 1.408 volts even at stock (with XMP). 

[gabby131]

3 minutes ago, reptileexperts said:

1.408 isn't horrific. A lot of folks are requiring around 1.4v for a stable 5.0, would not go over around 1.45v for long term. It may be a case of too much voltage as well. Get off of auto and go to adaptive. Start undervolting at 50 on core and see if you see stability increase. Reference, mine is on 1.35v for 5.01ghz

ahhh...i see.

 

Though my temps can get really high on benches on 1.408....I do not mind as long as it won't throttle.

Thank you for sharing.  I'll start tweaking.

[gabby131]

What is this SVID option in BIOS?  I understand turning off CPU SVID support is recommended for OC but this one is new to me.  there's worst and best case scenario setting.

 

EDIT:  after research this option by default is at 'worst case' and this will tell the cpu to ask for more voltage....yikes!

[gabby131]

Oh boy!  This chip is hot! Getting 90deg in aida at 1.3 volts in less than 10 mins!  I wasted a good amount of thermal paste to make sure cooler is attached/seated properly like 5-6 times.

 

 

Any other opinion?  In any case, this may get off topic.... Maybe I'll get to another OC thread.

 

Thank you

[xg32]

11 hours ago, gabby131 said:

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you are not supposed to run it above 1.35v unless it's delidded, the realistic difference between 4.9 and 5.0 is 2%, i suggest doing 1.375v 4.9 and see if it's stable, if it is, try 1.35v.

[bcguru9384]

11 hours ago, gabby131 said:

Hello!

 

I just 'side' graded to a 8700k, ASUS Maximus X Hero, and a Corsair Vengeance DDR4 2666mhz RAM.

Overclocking again after a few years and all I did so far is XMP and change multiplier.  I have auto in voltage, cooler so far can handle it.

 

however at 5.0ghz in auto-volts (transformers?) i get BSOD: driver_irql_not_less_or_equal (sometimes KMODE fah-flah-flah) on cinebench.

 

My questions: is this error RAM related?

 

I already did: CPU is max at 85C (deg) on stress test, full wipe windows 10, and re-downloaded/updated all drivers.

At stock CPU clocks with XMP - no errors

At 4.8-4.9 CPU overclock - no errors

Memory test at XMP speeds - no errors

I understand that my ram, in time of posting, is not supported on the Mobo's QVL.

 

Don't get me wrong, 4.9ghz it freakin' fast (my last CPU was able to get 4.5ghz), just wanna know so I could bump the overclock more as I have headroom, and I have not tweaked vcore yet.

 

Thank you and regards,

i have question

why would you void your warranty?

so you get 5fps more in a stupid game.

i am really beginging to hate all these NEWBS as they have ZERO understanding what their doing.

the clock rates thru your entire system ARE mathematicly PROOFABLE

yes i am talking about geometry class proofs

 

[bcguru9384]

first thing first 

the gpu drivers are typically horrible in their output to windows

(why does sli not use the windows pci to pci bridge acpi built in????)oh ya cause gpu company does not know that exists,,, or windows has pciex root acpi to call 

these big companies need to send their teams to a windows ACPI class so that they actually know how to CORRECTLY CODE their drivers to use the available services(linux does tend to copy windows more than windows copies linux)

everyone cries windows sucks yet its their own ignorance of using windows thats real failure

[gabby131]

1 hour ago, bcguru9384 said:

i have question

why would you void your warranty?

so you get 5fps more in a stupid game.

i am really beginging to hate all these NEWBS as they have ZERO understanding what their doing.

the clock rates thru your entire system ARE mathematicly PROOFABLE

yes i am talking about geometry class proofs

 

Lol

[gabby131]

1 hour ago, xg32 said:

you are not supposed to run it above 1.35v unless it's delidded, the realistic difference between 4.9 and 5.0 is 2%, i suggest doing 1.375v 4.9 and see if it's stable, if it is, try 1.35v.

I am testing 1.35 and it's still going....thank you!.  Though i also got this error on stock 4.7ghz sync all cores...so I'm trying to 'search and destroy' the component making this error.

[bcguru9384]

55 minutes ago, gabby131 said:

Lol

laugh all you want but i can tell you all your system clockrates with only knowing baseclock and multiplyer

every clock for every system component....

can you?????

[gabby131]

Small update.... Seems this error was due to corrupt windows update database.  I reached 5ghz @ 1.35v and stable as my daily driver.  I also had an average temp of 87 deg Celsius and highest spikes to 91 deg Celsius.  My 8hr stress test had no thermal throttling.

 

Thank you so much for you assistance.

[gabby131]

And also.... The random bsods side from driver error were due to CPU SVID Support being in auto/enabled when at modified, overclock voltage.  X99 does not have this, but in any case, disabling this option solved my bsod upon reboot even in stock settings.