Chrome 63 will use even more RAM to "protect" you

[AlTech]

Are you tired of Chrome using too much RAM? Well I have bad news for you. That's not going away anytime soon.

 

In Chrome 63, Google plans to add Site Isolation features which will use more RAM than the current version.

 

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The first of these is site isolation, an even stricter version of the multiple process model that Chrome has used since its introduction. Chrome uses multiple processes for several security and stability reasons. On the stability front, the model means that even if a single tab crashes, other tabs (and the browser itself) are unaffected. On the security front, the use of multiple processes makes it much harder for malicious code from one site to steal secrets (such as passwords typed into forms) of another.

Chrome's default model is, approximately, to use one process per tab. This more or less ensures that unrelated sites are kept in separate processes, but there are nuances to this set-up. Pages share a process if they are related through, for example, one opening another with JavaScript or iframes embedding (wherein one page is included as content within another page). Over the course of a single browsing session, one tab may be used to visit multiple different domains; they'll all potentially be opened within a single process. On top of this, if there are already too many Chrome processes running, Chrome will start opening new pages within existing processes, resulting in even unrelated pages sharing a process.

Chrome 63 introduces a new mode called "Site Isolation." In Site Isolation mode, this sharing is eliminated and the browser applies a much stricter policy to ensure that individual sites remain in separate processes. Even pages that were formerly "related" (and hence eligible for a shared process) will be separated, and a long browsing session within a tab that spans several different sites will get a new process each time a new domain is visited. The process sharing due to having a large number of processes is also disabled with this mode.

Google has had to update Chrome to enable this mode. One of the reasons that sharing was used initially is that some pages are allowed to communicate with one another, using certain JavaScript mechanisms. Originally, these mechanisms only worked when the different pages used the same process. In Chrome 63, that communication can cross between processes. Similarly, embedded iframes can use a different process for the parent than for the child.

Naturally, this greater use of multiple processes incurs a price; with this option enabled, Chrome's already high memory usage can go up by another 10 to 20 percent.

 

So yeah, gotta love the competition in the browser space. I'm pretty sure FF57 woke Google up.

 

Source:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/chrome-63-offers-even-more-protection-from-malicious-sites-using-even-more-memory/

[Princess Luna]

And people made fun of me for using Firefox, who's laughing now? FF57 p3wns Chrome more than ever and seems Mozilla's getting some decent breathing room now that Google has decided to stick to its high resources usage.... feels its like Ubisoft's of browsers... optimization be damned!

[porina]

I dunno what you all are doing, but I've not personally had any ram related problems with Chrome. Right now I have 9 tabs open and it is using less than 1GB.

[Bouzoo]

3 minutes ago, porina said:

I dunno what you all are doing, but I've not personally had any ram related problems with Chrome. Right now I have 9 tabs open and it is using less than 1GB.

I've manage to use like 3-4 GB, but that's with 40 tabs open. I really wouldn't call that a problem.

[potoooooooo]

I can't even stream twitch at above 480p without stuttering on chrome on my high end gaming PC. If i try and run a gif at the same time, only one of them works.

 

Switched to firefox full time, not looking back.

 

Inb4 "what about edge?" i've tried edge. Better than chrome, not as good as FF.

[asus killer]

 

maybe they got it wrong but didn't it use the least memory? 

 

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3213031/computers/best-web-browsers.html?page=2

[asus killer]

2 minutes ago, potoooooooo said:

I can't even stream twitch at above 480p without stuttering on chrome on my high end gaming PC. If i try and run a gif at the same time, only one of them works.

 

Switched to firefox full time, not looking back.

 

Inb4 "what about edge?" i've tried edge. Better than chrome, not as good as FF.

try opera and you'll see

[Bananasplit_00]

ehh im sticking with chrome, the google intergration is really nice and i dont feel like moveing 80 or so tabs manually to another browser lol

[2FA]

If you have to worry about browser memory usage, I think you have more to worry about.

[Matu20]

I am on Chrome 64 for a while now, is that a thing with that version also?

[AresKrieger]

I deleted chrome after it started to attempting to monitor my internet traffic on other browsers, frankly I have no interest in using the pos ever again especially if its going to attempt to block sites adblockers and track me to the degree it has.

[Trik'Stari]

I have 32gb of RAM.

 

Come at me chrome.

[Doobeedoo]

Well good to see more changes at least in browser space. 

Anyway, I use Opera and I managed to have 200 tabs open (yes I knew what each tab is or was) for various work etc. I use it like a session for each relaunch. Don't always have so many though. It's rare but still I have dozen tabs mostly. Also I would keep it open along many other programs an and could also game with no issues while watching a stream. All with 16GB RAM though. 

Just hearing still such memory problems with Chrome with less tabs seems so odd. 

[PlayStation 2]

4 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Meh

Vivaldi

Regular Vivaldi user. Vivaldi uses more RAM than Chrome when both are stock, with no extensions.

[Drak3]

6 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Vivaldi

Meh

Safari, Edge, or FF57

[PianoPlayer88Key]

But ... I'd need Chrome to use LESS RAM!!  

 

 

 

Or, maybe I should use FireFox? (I do have 57 installed.)  One big reason I haven't been using it recently is cause in the past, tabs weren't sandboxed like in Chrome.  So one tab crashes (or you kill it) and it takes the entire browser down.   Whereas in Chrome, at least in theory, you kill one tab, and it should kill just that tab.  In practice, it does group a few tabs together - often ones you right click, open in new tab, and then sometimes a few get shuffled around.  Just look at the Chrome task manager sometime...

[Drak3]

3 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

 

I have an excess of RAM. Better power user features than unused memory.

As do I, but the sidebar is annoying (and worthless), performance outside of LTT is lack luster, and the "power user" features either are counterintuitive or implemented better in other browsers, most falling in the former.

[vetali]

You left out the most important part of the article, thus making this thread extremely clickbait.

 

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As such, it's not enabled by default; instead, it's intended for use by enterprise users that are particularly concerned about organizational security.

 

[EnergyEclipse]

Oh I feel the cries of those still with 2gb of RAM already D: May the PC gods be good to you this christmas

[PianoPlayer88Key]

11 minutes ago, EnergyEclipse said:

Oh I feel the cries of those still with 2gb of RAM already D: May the PC gods be good to you this christmas

My dad's laptop has 2 GB RAM...

(My dad's is on the right, mine's on the left in the 2 laptops pic.)

[SansVarnic]

:facepalm:

Chrome, its not named that for its good looks.   

[mynameisjuan]

3 hours ago, asus killer said:

 

maybe they got it wrong but didn't it use the least memory? 

 

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3213031/computers/best-web-browsers.html?page=2

Dont throw off this click bait thread with your facts!!!

 

But on a serious note, who the fuck cares. If your PC still has 2 or 4 gigs then you are already having a terrible experience. On top of that most people here have 16gig and guarantee they are not using it all. If you are then congrats on the accomplishment, but showing us your 100+ tabs with 10 youtube vids and 5 twitch stream means jack shit, because you are totally watching them at the same time right? (by the way my reference to you is not directly to you!! )

[elfensky]

>meanwhile on a locked 56.6 version of Firefox because tab-groups are love, tab-groups are life.

[AlTech]

5 minutes ago, ElfenSky said:

>meanwhile on a locked 56.6 version of Firefox because tab-groups are love, tab-groups are life.

Use Tab Containers?

[LAwLz]

Wow @AluminiumTech, who pissed in your coffee today? You sure are trying to your hardest to post as many anti-Google news as possible today.

Google introducing an optional feature for Chrome (turned off by default) which will increase security? Better spin that to something negative!

Man, fuck Google for making a security-enhancing feature and making it optional (again, turned off by default) right?

 

Browsers seems to be one of these things where everyone has really strong opinions but next to no clue what they are even talking about. It's like listening to Playstation and Xbox fanboys talking about how much better one console is over the other. Next to no facts and instead just a bunch of anecdotal evidence and shit throwing.