NFS Payback .... letting us down again

[Rackooo]

So i just had enough of the franchise because every game was hyped through the roof but didnt deliver in the end. needles to say i fell in love with payback the first time i saw the trailer, thinking to myself did they actually learn from their previous mistkes and made a game that we can actually enjoy. preodered it and installed on my pc, and i wasnt even 2 minutes in the game to notice the effing stuttery mess that the game is. the framerate is all over the place. played the proulogue mission (just barely, since it was a slide show), got better after that but still. t have a ryzen 1600x with 16gigs of memory and a auros gtx1080, and i cant run the game normaly. needles to say i am not the only one and probably every NFS Payback owner is ranting about the performance. Waste of money.

 

i just cant believe they can release the game so badly optimized, i mean what the F is going through the minds of ghost games quality control checks, when they try this stutter fest and say, yes put it on the shelves???

 

Not only that the game is full of glitches, textur bugs, pop in, a mess in general.

 

Sadly an addictive storyline but bad presentation.... AGAIN!

[IKnight]

2 minutes ago, Rackooo said:

So i just had enough of the franchise because every game was hyped through the roof but didnt deliver in the end. needles to say i fell in love with payback the first time i saw the trailer, thinking to myself did they actually learn from their previous mistkes and made a game that we can actually enjoy. preodered it and installed on my pc, and i wasnt even 2 minutes in the game to notice the effing stuttery mess that the game is. the framerate is all over the place. played the proulogue mission (just barely, since it was a slide show), got better after that but still. t have a ryzen 1600x with 16gigs of memory and a auros gtx1080, and i cant run the game normaly. needles to say i am not the only one and probably every NFS Payback owner is ranting about the performance. Waste of money.

 

i just cant believe they can release the game so badly optimized, i mean what the F is going through the minds of ghost games quality control checks, when they try this stutter fest and say, yes put it on the shelves???

 

Not only that the game is full of glitches, textur bugs, pop in, a mess in general.

 

Sadly an addictive storyline but bad presentation.... AGAIN!

My guess they were pressured for time. Future updates will probably fix all of the above you just listed. 

What's the gameplay in terms of story/action like? 

[Rackooo]

Just now, IKnight said:

My guess they were pressured for time. Future updates will probably fix all of the above you just listed. 

What's the gameplay in terms of story/action like? 

the gameplay is very linear even the cop chases everything seems scripted althi it is fun to play and very action packed. but the performance really destroys the game

[njmyers3]

That's unfortunate. I really liked NFS Rivals and was looking forward to this one.

[racer243l]

Same with a 6700k and 1080Ti. Get´s better after all the early missions. The system for car performance upgrades sucks imo...

[Rackooo]

1 minute ago, njmyers3 said:

That's unfortunate. I really liked NFS Rivals and was looking forward to this one.

yes same here i am very unhappy that they can f**k up an otherwise good game. i hope they really patch it but i cant get over the fact that people with i7 8700k and gtx 1080 ti computers even get this stutter. it even looks like a hdd streaming problem, but i formated a Samsung 850 evo dedicated for the game

[Rackooo]

1 minute ago, racer243l said:

Same with a 6700k and 1080Ti. Get´s better after all the early missions. The system for car performance upgrades sucks imo...

it is definetly not a HW problem, everyone is having such isusses. yes i was like wth too when i saw the performance upgrade system

[racer243l]

5 minutes ago, Rackooo said:

it is definetly not a HW problem, everyone is having such isusses. yes i was like wth too when i saw the performance upgrade system

Especially as a car enthusiast the way it´s handled is very dissapointing

[Rackooo]

Just now, racer243l said:

Especially as a car enthusiast the way it´s handled is very dissapointing

tell me bout it im a car painter and spent a lot of time under hoods aswell so this is a joke. if i am being honest the colors are one of the only pretty things as far as modding goes in this game (the visual upgrades are unlocked so far in the game that its not even worth customizing)

[xAcid9]

You meant Need for Speed Checkpoints and Cutscenes?

[Rackooo]

1 hour ago, xAcid9 said:

You meant Need for Speed Checkpoints and Cutscenes?

Yes that should actualy be the title haha

[racer243l]

15 hours ago, Rackooo said:

tell me bout it im a car painter and spent a lot of time under hoods aswell so this is a joke. if i am being honest the colors are one of the only pretty things as far as modding goes in this game (the visual upgrades are unlocked so far in the game that its not even worth customizing)

Did you play The Crew? It feels like a cheap rip off of that system. I have to agree, the colours and the wrap editor as a whole actually good. I liked it in NFS 2015 already, which I liked to call Wrapping Simulator 2015 as it was the best thing about the game.

And like xAcid9 said Payback seems like NfS Cutscenes wrap editor simulator so far...

[Rackooo]

1 hour ago, racer243l said:

Did you play The Crew? It feels like a cheap rip off of that system. I have to agree, the colours and the wrap editor as a whole actually good. I liked it in NFS 2015 already, which I liked to call Wrapping Simulator 2015 as it was the best thing about the game.

And like xAcid9 said Payback seems like NfS Cutscenes wrap editor simulator so far...

It is exactly like the crew that is the first thing my brother said. But the crew got it right. Nfs franchise is dying or it is time for a developer change because ghost games cant seem to put out a good game.

[asus killer]

too bad criterion did not made any more NFS or Burnout games

[Rackooo]

15 minutes ago, asus killer said:

too bad criterion did not made any more NFS or Burnout games

Thats right at least they know what a fun game is

[GitGud]

Strange, i saw many benchies showing Payback a great port from EA Access gameplays, even 1050 Ti was doing Ultra 50 fps

[Rackooo]

4 hours ago, GitGud said:

Strange, i saw many benchies showing Payback a great port from EA Access gameplays, even 1050 Ti was doing Ultra 50 fps

The funny thing is the fps dont even drop during the stutters, it has to be a streaming issue

[leelaa14]

I found the last need for speed stuttered like hell and would sometimes fall though the road when I had shadowplay enabled.

[Rackooo]

10 hours ago, leelaa14 said:

I found the last need for speed stuttered like hell and would sometimes fall though the road when I had shadowplay enabled.

I had the same issuses with the previous nfs, just thought meh its because ryzen is new and it isnt optimised for it. Now they have no excuse. I guess they jus took the same base game and modified it

[dfsdfgfkjsefoiqzemnd]

5930K @ 4.5 and 1070 here, only really noticed stuttering during the movie scenes, the framerate ingame wasn't all that consistent but never problematic.  I played in 1080p, on "high" settings and with only the basic Nvidia 388.13 driver. (no physx driver, no GeForce Experience, no 3D or audio driver, I always un-select that stuff)

 

I bought the game, played it for 14 hours straight and got a refund. 

The story was okay-ish but certainly not original, the physics aren't terrible but I really wouldn't call them good either. 

What killed the game it for me is the lack of Toyotas (Supra fan) and the lack of a freeroam lobby.  I'm also not a fan of the whole gambling/prizecard thing.

 

I used to play NFS World and there always were meetings in several locations to show off our cars in-game.  That was a big part of the game's appeal, we'd spend hours and hours on the vinyls, either creating replicas of Fast & Furious cars or coming up with the wildest things.  I just can't be bothered to do it in Payback because now the only way to show off your work is to post pictures in a forum, and that just isn't the same. 

Also the physics in NFSW were simply better.  None of that drift nonsense.  So yeah, I'm still waiting for a decent replacement for NFSW

[Rackooo]

2 hours ago, Captain Chaos said:

5930K @ 4.5 and 1070 here, only really noticed stuttering during the movie scenes, the framerate ingame wasn't all that consistent but never problematic.  I played in 1080p, on "high" settings and with only the basic Nvidia 388.13 driver. (no physx driver, no GeForce Experience, no 3D or audio driver, I always un-select that stuff)

 

I bought the game, played it for 14 hours straight and got a refund. 

The story was okay-ish but certainly not original, the physics aren't terrible but I really wouldn't call them good either. 

What killed the game it for me is the lack of Toyotas (Supra fan) and the lack of a freeroam lobby.  I'm also not a fan of the whole gambling/prizecard thing.

 

I used to play NFS World and there always were meetings in several locations to show off our cars in-game.  That was a big part of the game's appeal, we'd spend hours and hours on the vinyls, either creating replicas of Fast & Furious cars or coming up with the wildest things.  I just can't be bothered to do it in Payback because now the only way to show off your work is to post pictures in a forum, and that just isn't the same. 

Also the physics in NFSW were simply better.  None of that drift nonsense.  So yeah, I'm still waiting for a decent replacement for NFSW

I have the same driver without geforce experience, and the other crap except for physics. Will try unistalling that today and se if it makes any change but i doubt it will. To me stuttering occurs even in freeroam (not that intensive but still if you know it is there you can spot it). During cop chases it literally looks like the whole game frezzes sometimes.

 

What version of windows are you running?

[Rackooo]

And some of the cpu cores even reach 92% utilisation in freeroam (tried disabling SMT too). This is not normal for a game like this. Even crysis isnt such a cpu and gpu hog

[dfsdfgfkjsefoiqzemnd]

3 hours ago, Rackooo said:

What version of windows are you running?

Ah, forgot to mention that.  Win7, fully updated. 

[D13H4RD]

Payback gets a mixed reception from me.

 

The map and the cars are great and the cops are much better than before, but I really feel that the storyline was cheesy, the voice acting wasn’t good and honestly, the free roam just feels empty. There’s no actual cop chase that you can do Most-Wanted style. 

 

Imagine getting away from corrupted cops with Skyhammer and Killswitches and if you get busted, you get a strike on your car and with 3 strikes, you lose the car to the House and if you want it back, you have to bet another car and win in order to do so.

 

Think about it, that would be nice.