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A WATER COOLED POWER SUPPLY? ARE THEY NUTS??

Are they nuts? Yes...

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this product is stupid. its more risk for no real gain over buying another high quality PSU of the same wattage, and id guess this PSU is going to cost more then an equivlent wattage and good quality air cooled PSU

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I get the idea - but seriously? What's the chance of your PSU overheating nowadays?

I'm sticking with air though.

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I'm guessing it could be similar to Bitfenix Whisper M where the MOSFET are on the opposite side of the PCB with through PCB heatsinks soldered right next to them.

So the block could directly cool them.

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I like custom WC in general, but wtf this thing is just stupid.

If the WC would actually work properly then it could be an option in insane rigs like the compensator or or desk pc or whatever.

 

But this thing, no. SIlly idea and sadly badly executed.

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I think this idea has a chance but their idea is probably flawed. Why is the water block only mounted on the bottom of the PCB? Why not in like a go all the way around, eliminate the fan all together and try to cool all four sides of the PCB at once.

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I would buy a watercooled power supply simply because I don't want to have any fans at all in my desktop.  Right now my AX1500i's fan is the only fan in the thing.  

 

The problem with this PSU specifically is that the fan is load based and not temperature based, which would make it completely fucking worthless.

 

Y'all should have shoved some cardboard in to block the fan spinning and seen if it can survive with water only.

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5 hours ago, 1kv said:

I get the idea - but seriously? What's the chance of your PSU overheating nowadays?

I'm sticking with air though.

Earlier in my life I thought it might be a good idea to measure the temps, although I didn't have a thermometer with me, so I just reached on in there to check the heatsink.

Results were shocking.

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This is just a niche and has no added value what so ever. First of all, I don't see the fan disappearing any time soon. On a GPU or CPU you can determine the load and throttle back if your cooling isn't adequate. On a PSU the load is determined by external factors and thus you don't have that extra layer of security. This means that if your GPU would throttle up and your PSU isn't cooled properly, things will break. Literally! Take the heatsink of a MOSFET and watch it explode.

Second, the components have a wide temperate rating, usually the operating temperature is between -55 to +175C, so they can take a little bit of extra heat no problem. The problem isn't a bit of extra heat, the problem is keeping the temperature as steady as possible so you don't cause heat stress and also the output voltage is as stable as possible. Heat stress will kill any piece of electronics given time.

So having the extra little bit of cooling from a waterblock doesn't do help at all, only thing it does is introduce an extra safety hazard when leaks occur. Having said this, if you don't have a heatsink that interfaces with the components directly then there's no use for it all anyway and having the heatsink interface with the components directly is going to be very expensive as the block will have a very very odd shape.

This is just a stupid niche!

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dunno, couldn't they submerge whole PSU in some kind of low-conductivity high-thermal-capacity liquid(oil) and just run it thru whole AiO?

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RGB would have brought more performance benefits. 

 

Gosh Dammit FSP, Get your act together, you should know this by now. 

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14 minutes ago, HimymCZe said:

dunno, couldn't they submerge whole PSU in some kind of low-conductivity high-thermal-capacity liquid(oil) and just run it thru whole AiO?

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Quite frankly that PSU was a failure :P

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I'm pretty sure this was court ordered for Diablotek.

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5 hours ago, HimymCZe said:

dunno, couldn't they submerge whole PSU in some kind of low-conductivity high-thermal-capacity liquid(oil) and just run it thru whole AiO?

Watch the fishtank PC series, can be done with mineral oil has lots of problems and drawbacks.
 

 

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18 hours ago, AnonymousGuy said:

I would buy a watercooled power supply simply because I don't want to have any fans at all in my desktop.  Right now my AX1500i's fan is the only fan in the thing.  

 

The problem with this PSU specifically is that the fan is load based and not temperature based, which would make it completely fucking worthless.

 

Y'all should have shoved some cardboard in to block the fan spinning and seen if it can survive with water only.

why no fans?  Do you want to eliminate the noise?  Because from my understanding water pumps in the water-cooled systems make noise too.  

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2 hours ago, CooperMyers said:

why no fans?  Do you want to eliminate the noise?  Because from my understanding water pumps in the water-cooled systems make noise too.  

Yes, no noise.

 

Pumps turned down to their lowest speed setting are inaudible unless you put your ear up next to them.

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On 11/9/2017 at 10:10 AM, VegetableStu said:

Heavy, Messy, and Expensive

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Why?
You dont have to fill the whole volume if you made the "canal" right.
How is AiO Messy?
therefore why would be expensive?

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On 11/9/2017 at 3:23 PM, maksakal said:

Watch the fishtank PC series, can be done with mineral oil has lots of problems and drawbacks.
 

 

I understand that oil is not the best liquid to use, due to low viscosity, but there must be other high-viscosity low-conductivity liquid...

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6 hours ago, HimymCZe said:

I understand that oil is not the best liquid to use, due to low viscosity, but there must be other high-viscosity low-conductivity liquid...


Yes, that's what I meant with "lots of problems and drawbacks", not to forget the absurd maintenance issues (watch the followup). There is evaporative cooling with a synthetic liquid called 3M Novec 7000, but it's patented as crap and requires special machinery. It requires a sealed cabinet which is slightly pressurized, making it a challenge to build cases. Because it's patented it costs alot, like alot alot. Some guy did a PC build and said he paid 1500 euro's for a few liters of it. You will need top ups, so the TCO will only get worse overtime. I'm not really sure about the health hazards, I for one wouldn't go near it without a mask and gloves. Nonetheless some people have taken on the challenge and there are vids of it on Youtube.

Other then that, draft cooling is still the easiest and cheapest.

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