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$450-$500 upgrade path, which to take?

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So, having this PC:

CPU: AMD FX 8300 @ 4.4GHz
COOLER: LC-CC-120 (Hyper 212Evo class) + 2 CM jetFlo Blue in Push-pull + CM MasterGel Maker Nano
RAM: 16GB DDR3 1866MHz (4x4GB) Kingston HyperX Fury (2x black + 2x blue) @ 1866MHz
MBO: Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0
GPU: Sapphire AMD Radeon R9 380X Nitro 4GB GDDR5 @ 1040/1500 MHz
Soundcard: Asus Xonar DG 5.1
PSU: Fractal Design Edison M 550W
SSD: Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB + PNY CS900 120GB
HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1000GB 7200rpm 32MB + Toshiba DT01ACA100 1000GB 7200rpm + Toshiba DT01ACA200 2000GB 7200rpm
CASE: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout
FAN: 2x Fractal Design 140mm + 1 LC Power 120mm
OS: Windows 10 Professional x64 CRO 1709

 

And these peripherals:
Monitor: Philips 226VL 1080p @ 75Hz + LG L192WS 1440x900 @ 75 Hz
Keyboard: Logitech G710+
Mouse: Roccat Kone Military Optical 5000dpi Desert Strike
Mousepad: Cooler Master Storm Speed-RX Large
Speakers: Logitech S-220 2.1
Headset: Kingston HyperX Cloud black + 
Webcam: Logitech C210 720p HD

 

And an upgrade budget of around $500 USD (+- $50), what would you change?

 

Use scenarios: gaming (FPS-es like Battlefield 1, RPG-s like Skyrim etc), multimedia (Netflix, movies, ...), streaming (Twitch), maybe some light content production (Youtube), web development, web browsing

 

Thinking of either i5 8400 + Z370 cheaper ATX MBO + 16GB DDR4 2666 or Ryzen 5 1600 + X370 MBO with decent VRM + 16GB ddr4 3000.

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6 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

So, having this PC:

CPU: AMD FX 8300 @ 4.4GHz
COOLER: LC-CC-120 (Hyper 212Evo class) + 2 CM jetFlo Blue in Push-pull + CM MasterGel Maker Nano
RAM: 16GB DDR3 1866MHz (4x4GB) Kingston HyperX Fury (2x black + 2x blue) @ 1866MHz
MBO: Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0
GPU: Sapphire AMD Radeon R9 380X Nitro 4GB GDDR5 @ 1040/1500 MHz
Soundcard: Asus Xonar DG 5.1
PSU: Fractal Design Edison M 550W
SSD: Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB + PNY CS900 120GB
HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1000GB 7200rpm 32MB + Toshiba DT01ACA100 1000GB 7200rpm + Toshiba DT01ACA200 2000GB 7200rpm
CASE: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout
FAN: 2x Fractal Design 140mm + 1 LC Power 120mm
OS: Windows 10 Professional x64 CRO 1709

 

And these peripherals:
Monitor: Philips 226VL 1080p @ 75Hz + LG L192WS 1440x900 @ 75 Hz
Keyboard: Logitech G710+
Mouse: Roccat Kone Military Optical 5000dpi Desert Strike
Mousepad: Cooler Master Storm Speed-RX Large
Speakers: Logitech S-220 2.1
Headset: Kingston HyperX Cloud black + 
Webcam: Logitech C210 720p HD

 

And an upgrade budget of around $500 USD (+- $50), what would you change?

 

Use scenarios: gaming (FPS-es like Battlefield 1, RPG-s like Skyrim etc), multimedia (Netflix, movies, ...), streaming (Twitch), maybe some light content production (Youtube), web development, web browsing

 

Thinking of either i5 8400 + Z370 cheaper ATX MBO + 16GB DDR4 2666 or Ryzen 5 1600 + X370 MBO with decent VRM + 16GB ddr4 3000.

Ryzen, absolutely. But you really don't need a X370, just grab a good quality B350 like the prime plus from asus.

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8 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

So, having this PC:

CPU: AMD FX 8300 @ 4.4GHz
COOLER: LC-CC-120 (Hyper 212Evo class) + 2 CM jetFlo Blue in Push-pull + CM MasterGel Maker Nano
RAM: 16GB DDR3 1866MHz (4x4GB) Kingston HyperX Fury (2x black + 2x blue) @ 1866MHz
MBO: Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0
GPU: Sapphire AMD Radeon R9 380X Nitro 4GB GDDR5 @ 1040/1500 MHz
Soundcard: Asus Xonar DG 5.1
PSU: Fractal Design Edison M 550W
SSD: Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB + PNY CS900 120GB
HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1000GB 7200rpm 32MB + Toshiba DT01ACA100 1000GB 7200rpm + Toshiba DT01ACA200 2000GB 7200rpm
CASE: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout
FAN: 2x Fractal Design 140mm + 1 LC Power 120mm
OS: Windows 10 Professional x64 CRO 1709

 

And these peripherals:
Monitor: Philips 226VL 1080p @ 75Hz + LG L192WS 1440x900 @ 75 Hz
Keyboard: Logitech G710+
Mouse: Roccat Kone Military Optical 5000dpi Desert Strike
Mousepad: Cooler Master Storm Speed-RX Large
Speakers: Logitech S-220 2.1
Headset: Kingston HyperX Cloud black + 
Webcam: Logitech C210 720p HD

 

And an upgrade budget of around $500 USD (+- $50), what would you change?

 

Use scenarios: gaming (FPS-es like Battlefield 1, RPG-s like Skyrim etc), multimedia (Netflix, movies, ...), streaming (Twitch), maybe some light content production (Youtube), web development, web browsing

 

Thinking of either i5 8400 + Z370 cheaper ATX MBO + 16GB DDR4 2666 or Ryzen 5 1600 + X370 MBO with decent VRM + 16GB ddr4 3000.

Just get a 1070 or 1080, wait to upgrade CPU/Mobo/ram when you have more money

CPU: Ryzen 1700@3.9ghz; GPU: EVGA 560 Ti 1gb; RAM: 16gb 2x8 Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000; PCPP: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b3xzzM

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FX 8300 to a ryzen 1600+ram+B350 motherboard, sell off the old hardware and see if you can get a 10606gb/rx 580 8gb with the money left.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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DDR4 is heavily overpriced at this moment.
I'd start with the graphics card, 1070 or 1060 6GB

Going for a 1440P display with the spare cash.
Wait for DRAM prices to go down again, then jump on a new some new RAM and a CPU/Mobo combo.

 

When the PC is acting up haunted,

who ya gonna call?
"Monotone voice" : A local computer store.

*Terrible joke I know*

 

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4 minutes ago, ErrantNyles said:

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Ryzen, absolutely. But you really don't need a X370, just grab a good quality B350 like the prime plus from asus.

I'm looking for a board with decent VRM for further upgrades and overclocking. AM4 might support the next generation of AMD CPU-s.

 

3 minutes ago, Thermosman said:

Just get a 1070 or 1080, wait to upgrade CPU/Mobo/ram when you have more money

Would that really make sense? The FX I have barely manages to "feed" the R9 380X, buying a mid-high end GPU wouldn't increase game performance until upgrading everything else. I think upgrading the platform is the way to go here.

 

Just now, herman mcpootis said:

FX 8300 to a ryzen 1600+ram+B350 motherboard, sell off the old hardware and see if you can get a 10606gb/rx 580 8gb with the money left.

Can't sell old hardware, it would go in a second system. An GTX 1060 wouldn't be a huge upgrade since the R9 380X about equals a GTX 1050 Ti.

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Since you're streaming, the 1600 or 1700 should be the best option. As for the motherboard, ask @dave_k, or get a Prime Pro, Strix, Gaming 5/K7, Taichi or Crosshair (also some others that I don't remember)

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Just now, seon123 said:

Since you're streaming, the 1600 or 1700 should be the best option. As for the motherboard, ask @dave_k, or get a Prime Pro, Strix, Gaming 5/K7, Taichi or Crosshair (also some others that I don't remember)

Taichi and Crosshair are the best, but on the budget the B350 Fatal1ty is pretty good.

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Just now, lukart said:

Taichi and Crosshair are the best, but on the budget the B350 Fatal1ty is pretty good.

No B350 board is "pretty good". They're all budget boards. IIRC, the B350 Fatal1ty has Asrock's 4-phase, which IIRC, is worse than Asus' 4-phase, MSI's big 4-phase, and Asrock's 3-phase

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For the Ryzen 1600 is enough... if you go for a R7 then its a different story.

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17 minutes ago, heimdali said:

I´d get a 4k display.  1440x900? Seriously?

 

The 1440x900 is fine as a second screen, useful for web development or monitoring the stream, chat, temperatures.

 

4 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Since you're streaming, the 1600 or 1700 should be the best option. As for the motherboard, ask @dave_k, or get a Prime Pro, Strix, Gaming 5/K7, Taichi or Crosshair (also some others that I don't remember)

I'm not streaming that often, partially due to the weak CPU I have and partially due to my job (that takes too much of my time).

For the board, Gigabyte's AX370 Gaming 3 or Gaming K3 would probably do fine, Buildzoid seems to like them. Gaming 5 costs too much, nearly the same as the R5 1600.

 

3 minutes ago, lukart said:

Taichi and Crosshair are the best, but on the budget the B350 Fatal1ty is pretty good.

I use this chart to determine if a board has decent power delivery:

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f12/pga-am4-mainboard-vrm-liste-1155146.html

 

1 minute ago, seon123 said:

No B350 board is "pretty good". They're all budget boards. IIRC, the B350 Fatal1ty has Asrock's 4-phase, which IIRC, is worse than Asus' 4-phase, MSI's big 4-phase, and Asrock's 3-phase

I can agree, although some can hold a Ryzen 5 6-core overclocked quite nicely. If the VRM components are decent quality + cooled, 4 phases are OK.

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Just now, 191x7 said:

I'm not streaming that often, partially due to the weak CPU I have and partially due to my job (that takes too much of my time).

For the board, Gigabyte's AX370 Gaming 3 or Gaming K3 would probably do fine, Buildzoid seems to like them. Gaming 5 costs too much, nearly the same as the R5 1600.

If you decide to stream, the 1600 will be better. For high refreshrate gaming, the 8400 will be better. 

The only decent Gigabyte AM4 boards are the G5 and K7. Rest all have the crappy 4-phase. If you're fine with pointing a fan directly at the VRM, it'll probably be fine

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3 minutes ago, seon123 said:

If you're fine with pointing a fan directly at the VRM, it'll probably be fine

 

Does this mean I'm probably fine with that?

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9 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

The 1440x900 is fine as a second screen, useful for web development or monitoring the stream, chat, temperatures.

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Oh, I didn´t notice it´s a 2nd screen.  I´d still get a 4k display, though.

 

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Just now, heimdali said:

Oh, I didn´t notice it´s a 2nd screen.  I´d still get a 4k display, though.

 

My main is a 1080p 75Hz Philips.

 

If I were to buy a new monitor (planning for next year), I'd go with 1440p 144Hz. Not ultra-wide nor 4K.

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6 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Does this mean I'm probably fine with that?

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The issue is, if you can afford that fan, you can afford a decent motherboard in the first place. 

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5 minutes ago, heimdali said:

Oh, I didn´t notice it´s a 2nd screen.  I´d still get a 4k display, though.

 

Well that would still be a stupid decision.  He'd need to buy a GTX 1070, bare minimum.

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3 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The issue is, if you can afford that fan, you can afford a decent motherboard in the first place. 

That fan I put there a few days ago is the fan from the stock heatsink that came in the box with my FX 8300.

I could use it again for the new board. I don't understand what you mean with the "if you can afford that fan, you can afford a decent motherboard" part.

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1 minute ago, 191x7 said:

That fan I put there a few days ago is the fan from the stock heatsink that came in the box with my FX 8300.

I could use it again for the new board. I don't understand what you mean with the "if you can afford that fan, you can afford a decent motherboard" part.

I guess. But then again, the VRMs are as bad as the ones on worst B350 boards

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1 minute ago, seon123 said:

I guess. But then again, the VRMs are as bad as the ones on worst B350 boards

The cooled 6+2 phase ones on the Asus M5A97 Evo 2.0 I currently own? Those shouldn't be that bad...

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Just now, 191x7 said:

The cooled 6+2 phase ones on the Asus M5A97 Evo 2.0 I currently own? Those shouldn't be that bad...

No, I meant on the Gigabyte X370 boards. 

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6 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

Well that would still be a stupid decision.  He'd need to buy a GTX 1070, bare minimum.

That depends.

 

Everyone their own, I would hate having to put up with such a low resolution.

 

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Just now, heimdali said:

That depends.

 

Everyone their own, I would hate having to put up with such a low resolution.

 

Lmao, "such low resolution". Almost everyone is on 1080p, and you call 1440p "low".  xD

 

With a 4K display he'd have to run everything on Low to get 60fps.  Overall it would look far worse than 1080p.

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