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IPC: Ryzen 1600 vs i5 4590

I watched a couple of streamers playing League of Legends with specs of either:

 

  1. A GTX 1060 6GB w/ Ryzen 1600.
  2. An RX 580 8GB w/ Ryzen 1600.
  3. A GTX 1060 6GB w/ i5 4590.

 

#1 and #2 are having an FPS of 75-110~ while #3 is having at around 110-144+.

 

Questions:

  1. Is Ryzen's IPC that low? From my research, League of Legends only handles 2 cores or 4 threads and scales better with a higher IPC. This is quite concerning to me as I am planning to stream soon.
  2. So, if the 4590 gives higher FPS than 1600 in this specific game while streaming, does that mean it will be better if I bought an 8400 instead of 1600?(I am currently choosing between 8400 and 1600)
  3. How is the 8400's IPC compared to 4590?

 

Thank you.

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Yes Ryzen does have lower IPC than Intel, that was why when they first came out the reason they were faster was the extra cores. Now with Coffeelake Ryzen makes a lot less sense, especially on the lower tier with the R3s and R5s.

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like he said. but it's not an IPC question. because IPC is a very missunderstood factor.... they're not that far apart in that aspect but ryzen can't go past 4GHz and intel chips go all the way to 5. so it's much much slower.

 

also streaming will use the extra threads ryzen has to offer if you encode h.264 for best looking quality stream while impacting your own FPS the least (even for more demanding games). and why would it ever matter for you to have more than 100fps in league? it doesn't make you win more. as long as you have a smooth experience aka more than 60 you are set.

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I'm getting rid of my R5 and going Coffee Lake, if that tells you anything.

Current Build:

CPU: i7-8700K @4.7 GHz/1.25v (all cores)

GPU: RTX 3080 Ti FE

RAM: 2x8GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 @3200 MHz

Mobo: Asus Prime Z370-A

CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 Evo

PSU: EVGA 650 Watt G2 Supernova

Case: NZXT S340 Elite

 

Current Laptop:

Model: Asus ROG Zephyrus G14

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900HS

GPU: RTX 3060

RAM: 16GB @3200 MHz

 

Old PC:

CPU: Intel i7 980X @4.0 GHz/1.34v

RAM: 3x4GB DDR3 @1333 MHz

Mobo: Some old x58 board

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14 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

why would it ever matter for you to have more than 100fps in league? it doesn't make you win more. as long as you have a smooth experience aka more than 60 you are set.

I can go get a 144Hz monitor.

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21 minutes ago, Max_Settings said:

Yes Ryzen does have lower IPC than Intel, that was why when they first came out the reason they were faster was the extra cores. Now with Coffeelake Ryzen makes a lot less sense, especially on the lower tier with the R3s and R5s.

Okay, thank you.

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15 minutes ago, Emberstone said:

I'm getting rid of my R5 and going Coffee Lake, if that tells you anything.

I see, thank you.

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Just now, pajpaj said:

I can go get a 144Hz monitor.

yeah but like i said it doesn't improve your own performance like it does for something like CS:GO that's why CS pro's use 144Hz while lol pro players only use regular 60FPS

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2 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

yeah but like i said it doesn't improve your own performance like it does for something like CS:GO that's why CS pro's use 144Hz while lol pro players only use regular 60FPS

I know it does not improve my performance greatly but it can help, and from what I know they do use 144Hz monitor on competitive scene too.

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Just now, pajpaj said:

I know it does not improve my performance but it can help, and from what I know they do use 144Hz monitor on competitive scene too.

you say yes and then continue the sentence with a whole lotta no............. what ever man do what ever you want it's your money

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Just now, SquintyG33Rs said:

you say yes and then continue the sentence with a whole lotta no............. what ever man do what ever you want it's your money

Yea, edited and added "greatly", my bad. Thank you.

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38 minutes ago, pajpaj said:

Were the guys with Ryzen systems using their CPU to stream? Kind of an important question, also graphical settings might affect something there as well.

Really depends how they were streaming

Techdeals has it at like 150 average frame rate with an RX 470


Totally gotta level up to Dota 2 sometime though meng. :D

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

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What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Were the guys with Ryzen systems using their CPU to stream? Kind of an important question, also graphical settings might affect something there as well.

Really depends how they were streaming

Techdeals has it at like 150 average frame rate with an RX 470


Totally gotta level up to Dota 2 sometime though meng. :D

Pretty sure yeah, don't know about the 4590 one. Thanks for the link, gonna watch it.

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