Just wanted some opinions

[PerfectPlasma]

So I have this build that I've been planning to buy and piece together for ages, and I'd like to see if you guys have any suggestions since it doesn't seem like I'll be buying for at least another month or so. 

I plan to play at 1440p at at least 60,but I'd prefer more if possible. The budget maxes out at $1200 but I can stretch it to $1300.

 

Phantex P400S

MSI B350 Tomahawk(Swapped with ASUS Prime b350 Plus) 

Ryzen 5 1600

EVGA GTX 1070 FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 (Swapped with MSI 1070)

Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 DDR4 2x4 (Swapped with G.Skill Ripjaw V 2x8 3000) 

HP S700 120 GB SSD (Swapped with Crucial Mx300 275GB) 

MasterLiquid Lite 120 (Swapped with Corsair H60)

EVGA 750W GQ (Swapped with 650W G2)

Edited November 6, 2017 by PerfectPlasma
Added suggestions to list

[Majestic]

At this stage you really want to opt for 16GB. 

[seon123]

If you don't need the features of the P400S, you can get the P400 instead.

The motherboard is crap. Get a Prime Plus, it should cost around the same. A Strix, or a Carbon/Krait would also be decent, but should cost a bit more. 

Try to get 2x 8GB RAM. Brand isn't important.

Get a 250GB SSD if you can. 

Don't get a low end water cooler, those are stupid. Something like the H7 or H5 cost around the same, and will outperform it, as well as being quieter and more reliable. 

750W is way overkill. 450-550W is plenty

Edited November 6, 2017 by seon123
Damn autocorrect

[Thermosman]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p4BHd6 hell yeah

(edit): obviously a joke, don't do this

[paddy-stone]

I'd look for a different mobo, the MSI ones have been a bit dodgy. At the very least I'd go with a b350m pro4 from asrock, but the asus b350f? IIRC is considered better... is this for gaming or mix gaming/streaming and/or high CPU compute tasks?

[seon123]

Just now, Thermosman said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p4BHd6 hell yeah

Why such a bad CPU cooler, why only 8GB RAM, why a 160GB HDD, and why a fire hazard as a PSU?

[Thermosman]

Just now, seon123 said:

Why such a bad CPU cooler, why only 8GB RAM, why a 160GB HDD, and why a fire hazard as a PSU?

it was a joke lol, literally choose cheapest components

[Thermosman]

30 minutes ago, PerfectPlasma said:

So I have this build that I've been planning to buy and piece together for ages, and I'd like to see if you guys have any suggestions since it doesn't seem like I'll be buying for at least another month or so. 

I plan to play at 1440p at at least 60,but I'd prefer more if possible. The budget maxes out at $1200 but I can stretch it to $1300.

 

Phantex P400S

MSI B350 Tomahawk

Ryzen 5 1600

EVGA GTX 1070 FTW Gaming ACX 3.0

Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 DDR4 4x2 (or 2x4 I can't remember which way it goes) 

HP S700 120 GB SSD

MasterLiquid Lite 120 

EVGA 750W GQ 

i made it work

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sGb6kT

[Thermosman]

32 minutes ago, PerfectPlasma said:

So I have this build that I've been planning to buy and piece together for ages, and I'd like to see if you guys have any suggestions since it doesn't seem like I'll be buying for at least another month or so. 

I plan to play at 1440p at at least 60,but I'd prefer more if possible. The budget maxes out at $1200 but I can stretch it to $1300.

 

Phantex P400S

MSI B350 Tomahawk

Ryzen 5 1600

EVGA GTX 1070 FTW Gaming ACX 3.0

Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 DDR4 4x2 (or 2x4 I can't remember which way it goes) 

HP S700 120 GB SSD

MasterLiquid Lite 120 

EVGA 750W GQ 

it might actually be viable, just upgrade ssd, cooler, and case later

[PerfectPlasma]

7 minutes ago, Thermosman said:

i made it work

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sGb6kT

 That's going to cost more that 1300 including San Diego tax but I can try and mess with it.

Also why a micro atx board? Especially for a 7 1700?

 

[seon123]

4 minutes ago, Thermosman said:

i made it work

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sGb6kT

Still aweful. Still a terrible cooler, motherboard that shouldn't be used with Ryzen 7, no SSD, blower style GPU, and a bad PSU. 

[PerfectPlasma]

20 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

I'd look for a different mobo, the MSI ones have been a bit dodgy. At the very least I'd go with a b350m pro4 from asrock, but the asus b350f? IIRC is considered better... is this for gaming or mix gaming/streaming and/or high CPU compute tasks?

The plan is Gaming, streaming and editing. 

@paddy-stone

Edited November 5, 2017 by PerfectPlasma

[Thermosman]

1 minute ago, seon123 said:

Still aweful. Still a terrible cooler, motherboard that shouldn't be used with Ryzen 7, no SSD, blower style GPU, and a bad PSU. 

it wasent meant to actually be built, but it might work, it was required to fit in budget, and should be upgraded in future, ssd upgrade in future, and blower 1080 ti was cheapest, and psu is ok, not great

[PerfectPlasma]

Just now, Thermosman said:

it wasent meant to actually be built, but it might work, it was required to fit in budget, and should be upgraded in future, ssd upgrade in future, and blower 1080 ti was cheapest, and psu is ok, not great

I don't think cheap components will compliment a 1080 ti? 

[Thermosman]

Just now, PerfectPlasma said:

I don't think cheap components will compliment a 1080 ti? 

all the important parts (cpu, mobo, ram, gpu) are not cheap, plenty of wattage for 1080 ti, hdd is slow, but wiill not affect fps, case does not affect fps, cooler will be just enough. This is intended to be upgraded later with better parts.

[seon123]

2 minutes ago, Thermosman said:

it wasent meant to actually be built, but it might work, it was required to fit in budget, and should be upgraded in future, ssd upgrade in future, and blower 1080 ti was cheapest, and psu is ok, not great

If you didn't intend him to build it, why suggest it to him?

Why give him an overall poor experience with the PC, and expect him to sink more money later into it?

There is no reason at all to get that PSU

[Thermosman]

20 minutes ago, seon123 said:

If you didn't intend him to build it, why suggest it to him?

Why give him an overall poor experience with the PC, and expect him to sink more money later into it?

There is no reason at all to get that PSU

the idea was to get best performance while cheaping out on "non-essentials" for performance, intending to upgrade later.

here is a better psu and cooler, and its even 11 cents less

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/shdWNN

you ask why, i ask why not

[Thermosman]

this has hyper 212

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Df4r7

[PerfectPlasma]

2 minutes ago, Thermosman said:

the idea was to get best performance while cheaping out on "non-essentials" for performance, intending to upgrade later.

here is a better psu and cooler, and its even 11 cents less

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/shdWNN

you ask why, i ask why not

Are you sure I'm going to need an R7 and a 1080ti?  If the plan is to give me room for upgrading why not drop $200+ for the 1070 and put the money into storage and other aspects of the build? 

[Thermosman]

Just now, PerfectPlasma said:

Are you sure I'm going to need an R7 and a 1080ti?  If the plan is to give me room for upgrading why not drop $200+ for the 1070 and put the money into storage and other aspects of the build? 

you probably don't so yes probably

[seon123]

1 minute ago, Thermosman said:

the idea was to get best performance while cheaping out on "non-essentials" for performance, intending to upgrade later.

here is a better psu and cooler, and its even 11 cents less

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/shdWNN

you ask why, i ask why not

"Cheaping out", by making him spend an additional $80 on an SSD, then on another motherboard in ~2 years. 

Why do you constantly choose CM CPU coolers? Either suggest the stock one, or a decent one. 

Expect to replace the motherboard after a few years, due to the VRMs getting fairly hot.

No SSD, which will hamper the overall experience. 

Blower style cooler on the GPU, which will be loud.

And a really old PSU, instead of a more decent unit.

The reason he shouldn't cheap out, and instead get a 1080/1070 rig, is to not have to spend money on it later for components that should have been there in the first place or that will fail, and to not get components that are stupid to get

[Thermosman]

Just now, seon123 said:

"Cheaping out", by making him spend an additional $80 on an SSD, then on another motherboard in ~2 years. 

Why do you constantly choose CM CPU coolers? Either suggest the stock one, or a decent one. 

Expect to replace the motherboard after a few years, due to the VRMs getting fairly hot.

No SSD, which will hamper the overall experience. 

Blower style cooler on the GPU, which will be loud.

And a really old PSU, instead of a more decent unit.

The reason he shouldn't cheap out, and instead get a 1080/1070 rig, is to not have to spend money on it later for components that should have been there in the first place or that will fail, and to not get components that are stupid to get

cm coolers are the best under 40$

motherboard will be ok, it will have airflow on vrms

no ssd is a requirement of this low budget when trying to get best performance

blower style cooler is cheapest 1080 ti

lol don't build this plz

[seon123]

4 minutes ago, Thermosman said:

cm coolers are the best under 40$

motherboard will be ok, it will have airflow on vrms

no ssd is a requirement of this low budget when trying to get best performance

blower style cooler is cheapest 1080 ti

lol don't build this plz

No, there are no CM coolers under $40 that are worth it. M9 or Pure Rock Slim, H7, or H5, depending on which price point.

The motherboard won't have airflow that will make a difference.

Not getting an SSD, and expecting him to spend even more on the build just leads to an even more expensive build.

OP might not want to hear a loud GPU blower cooling a 250W card.

Why are you continuing to defend your choices?

Edited November 6, 2017 by seon123
Something something

[PerfectPlasma]

1 minute ago, Thermosman said:

cm coolers are the best under 40$

motherboard will be ok, it will have airflow on vrms

no ssd is a requirement of this low budget when trying to get best performance

blower style cooler is cheapest 1080 ti

lol don't build this plz

SSDs help with loading times in games and that helps performance

$1300 is not really low budget when you compare it to <$850 limits

And as far as I'm concerned blower-style cards aren't that great. 

[Thermosman]

Just now, seon123 said:

Why are you continuing to defend your choices?

I don't know