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Delidding and OC-ing 7700k What went wrong?

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Got all the right tools and delidding the 7700k. Got liquid metal, thermal grizzly, and even a copper IHS. 

 

The system successfully turned on. Ran Cinebench, geek bench at ratios of 45 and 46 and 47. AIDA64 successfully ran for 30 mins for those ratios too. 

 

Decided to push it a little further to 48. Ran the aforementioned stress tests. However, with AIDA 64, things got a little hot and showed a small level of throttling. I clicked "stop". All was well, and I wanted to check my email before I shut down, and opened a new tab on chrome. Instantly the system gave me the "Your PC ran into a problem" Blue screen and the thing now doesnt turn on in that I can't boot into Windows. Mobo, PSU and GPU seem intact as they run when I start the system. 

 

 

What went wrong?  What are the usual suspects? 

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Voltage? Temps?

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My main PC (Hybrid Windows 10/Arch Linux):

OS: Arch Linux w/ XFCE DE (VFIO-Patched Kernel) as host OS, windows 10 as guest

CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X w/PBO on (6c 12t for host, 6c 12t for guest)

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus X470-F Gaming

RAM: 32GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz (12GB for host, 20GB for guest)

GPU: Guest: EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 ULTRA Host: 2x Radeon HD 8470

PSU: EVGA G2 650W

SSDs: Guest: Samsung 850 evo 120 GB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB Host: Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

HDD: Guest: WD Caviar Blue 1 TB

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Other: White LED strip to illuminate the interior. Extra fractal intake fan for positive pressure.

 

unRAID server (Plex, Windows 10 VM, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 6.11.2

CPU: Ryzen R7 2700x @ Stock

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus Prime X470-Pro

RAM: 16GB G-Skill Ripjaws V + 16GB Hyperx Fury Black @ stock

GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

SSD: Samsung 970 evo NVME 250GB, Samsung 860 evo SATA 1TB 

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity)

Case: Sillverstone GD08B

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

Details: 12GB ram, GTX 1080, USB card passed through to windows 10 VM. VM's OS drive is the SATA SSD. Rest of resources are for Plex, Duplicati, Spaghettidetective, Nextcloud, and game servers.

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5 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

Voltage? Temps?

Running at 1.23v all the way through. Temps were alright. high 50s to high 60s stable. The case doesn't have great airflow tho. Its my tiny itx silverstone sg13. 

Running at 48, it reached low 70s and by the half hour mark, it touched 80'c, hence I decided to stop. 

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12 minutes ago, jonnyyyl said:

Running at 1.23v all the way through. Temps were alright. high 50s to high 60s stable. The case doesn't have great airflow tho. Its my tiny itx silverstone sg13. 

Running at 48, it reached low 70s and by the half hour mark, it touched 80'c, hence I decided to stop. 

80C at 1.23v, what the heck!? Is the voltage set manually? What cooler are you using?

Current LTT F@H Rank: 90    Score: 2,503,680,659    Stats

Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC (Hybrid Windows 10/Arch Linux):

OS: Arch Linux w/ XFCE DE (VFIO-Patched Kernel) as host OS, windows 10 as guest

CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X w/PBO on (6c 12t for host, 6c 12t for guest)

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus X470-F Gaming

RAM: 32GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz (12GB for host, 20GB for guest)

GPU: Guest: EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 ULTRA Host: 2x Radeon HD 8470

PSU: EVGA G2 650W

SSDs: Guest: Samsung 850 evo 120 GB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB Host: Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

HDD: Guest: WD Caviar Blue 1 TB

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Other: White LED strip to illuminate the interior. Extra fractal intake fan for positive pressure.

 

unRAID server (Plex, Windows 10 VM, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 6.11.2

CPU: Ryzen R7 2700x @ Stock

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus Prime X470-Pro

RAM: 16GB G-Skill Ripjaws V + 16GB Hyperx Fury Black @ stock

GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

SSD: Samsung 970 evo NVME 250GB, Samsung 860 evo SATA 1TB 

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity)

Case: Sillverstone GD08B

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

Details: 12GB ram, GTX 1080, USB card passed through to windows 10 VM. VM's OS drive is the SATA SSD. Rest of resources are for Plex, Duplicati, Spaghettidetective, Nextcloud, and game servers.

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13 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

80C at 1.23v, what the heck!? Is the voltage set manually? What cooler are you using?

Yes. This figure was the stock figure when I first received it. 

I'm using the NZXT x42

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6 minutes ago, jonnyyyl said:

Yes. This figure was the stock figure when I first received it. 

I'm using the NZXT x42

Not the best cooler, but since this is what you have I would try to open up as much airflow as possible. you aren't going to go very high if you can't bring those voltages up above stock. IMO the delid wasn't really worth it in this case.

Current LTT F@H Rank: 90    Score: 2,503,680,659    Stats

Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC (Hybrid Windows 10/Arch Linux):

OS: Arch Linux w/ XFCE DE (VFIO-Patched Kernel) as host OS, windows 10 as guest

CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X w/PBO on (6c 12t for host, 6c 12t for guest)

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus X470-F Gaming

RAM: 32GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz (12GB for host, 20GB for guest)

GPU: Guest: EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 ULTRA Host: 2x Radeon HD 8470

PSU: EVGA G2 650W

SSDs: Guest: Samsung 850 evo 120 GB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB Host: Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

HDD: Guest: WD Caviar Blue 1 TB

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Other: White LED strip to illuminate the interior. Extra fractal intake fan for positive pressure.

 

unRAID server (Plex, Windows 10 VM, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 6.11.2

CPU: Ryzen R7 2700x @ Stock

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus Prime X470-Pro

RAM: 16GB G-Skill Ripjaws V + 16GB Hyperx Fury Black @ stock

GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

SSD: Samsung 970 evo NVME 250GB, Samsung 860 evo SATA 1TB 

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity)

Case: Sillverstone GD08B

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

Details: 12GB ram, GTX 1080, USB card passed through to windows 10 VM. VM's OS drive is the SATA SSD. Rest of resources are for Plex, Duplicati, Spaghettidetective, Nextcloud, and game servers.

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Nothing went wrong it's just not stable, clear CMOS and start again. 80C isn't really that hot if you're running a 140mm radiator in an ITX build, real world usage will create temps quite a bit lower than stress testing will. Considering 1.35V is probably average for a 7700K at 5GHz it's not that surprising it wasn't stable at 4.8GHz 1.23V.

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1 hour ago, Cookybiscuit said:

Nothing went wrong it's just not stable, clear CMOS and start again. 80C isn't really that hot if you're running a 140mm radiator in an ITX build, real world usage will create temps quite a bit lower than stress testing will. Considering 1.35V is probably average for a 7700K at 5GHz it's not that surprising it wasn't stable at 4.8GHz 1.23V.

 

 

but i've already delidded it tho lol 

so i guess I'll raise the voltages? 

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3 hours ago, jonnyyyl said:

Got all the right tools and delidding the 7700k. Got liquid metal, thermal grizzly, and even a copper IHS. 

 

The system successfully turned on. Ran Cinebench, geek bench at ratios of 45 and 46 and 47. AIDA64 successfully ran for 30 mins for those ratios too. 

 

Decided to push it a little further to 48. Ran the aforementioned stress tests. However, with AIDA 64, things got a little hot and showed a small level of throttling. I clicked "stop". All was well, and I wanted to check my email before I shut down, and opened a new tab on chrome. Instantly the system gave me the "Your PC ran into a problem" Blue screen and the thing now doesnt turn on in that I can't boot into Windows. Mobo, PSU and GPU seem intact as they run when I start the system. 

 

 

What went wrong?  What are the usual suspects? 

1) Warning: Don't mix metals. Liquid metal + copper have nasty reputation. 

More info read here (CLICK ME !)

2) If it doesn't boot, reset bios CMOS. You probably are running in a low voltage overclock failure. 

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On 10/29/2017 at 1:39 PM, faziten said:

1) Warning: Don't mix metals. Liquid metal + copper have nasty reputation. 

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So I guess I'll use thermaly grizzly paste for the copper IHS then? 

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