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How do I make my 4690k upto 25% faster?

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Hello.

 

Not gonna lie, the i5-4690k old now. and is at least 15% slower than Kaby Lake. How much of an OC do I need on my 4690k to make it up to 25% better, But at least 10% better?

 

I have no scope of custom Liquid cooling. An AIO cooler is an option as long as it fits my system.

 

So... maybe suggest an AIO as well?

 

Or... am I asking too much?

 

If you suggest an Upgrade,

 

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It won't scale perfectly, but approximately an extra 25% of your current clock speed, to get it to run 25% faster.

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7 minutes ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:

and is at least 15% slower than Kaby Lake.

Ya....no. Haswell really isn't that far behind Kaby Lake (about 5-10% at the same clock speeds).

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2 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Ya....no. Haswell really isn't that far behind Kaby Lake. A 4690k @ 4.5ghz (which is a reasonable oc for it) is like 5-10% behind a 4.5ghz 6600k/7600k.

So... OC is the way to go.

 

Maybe suggest an AIO for my system?

 

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3 minutes ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:

So... OC is the way to go.

 

Maybe suggest an AIO for my system?

 

sadly your case only supports up to a 120mm radiator. so i guess a Corsair H80 would be the 'best'solution in this case.

the thing is tough, a dark rock 3 would probbaly outperform that AIO

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I suggest a Noctua NH-D15, which should fit.  The big 280 mm or 240 mm AIOs probably won't fit in your case.  The Noctua is about equal to the big AIO coolers anyway, and you have no risk of leaks! 

 

You should be able to hit 4.6 GHZ easily, which will give you a noticeable boost in performance.  If you spend some time on it, and if you are lucky, you might get up to 4.8 or 4.9 GHZ.

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Actually, never mind about hitting 4.8 GHz.  I just saw your motherboard and those smaller boards don't generally OC very well due to cut back power delivery components.  4.5 to 4.6 might still be OK.

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OP you're actually considering the expenses of a 240mm AiO water cooler, why not just shop for an used i7 4790k instead? it is more likely to give you the performance boost you're after more consistently.

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NHD 15 and OC to 4.6 Ghz. Look up guides online for overclocking.

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The default all-core turbo for 4 cores on the 4690k is 3.7 GHz so to get 25% more performance, you need to boost that by 25% (roughly).  That works out to 4.625 GHz, which is definitely up there but should be doable.

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23 minutes ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:

So... OC is the way to go.

 

Maybe suggest an AIO for my system?

 

you can delid and use liquid metal, that way you should be able to pull off easily 4,5ghz+, i have a non delidded 4690k with a x61 and i am at the edge of being stable  at 4,7ghz with 1,31V

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If you want to upgrade the 8600k is a pretty good option.

Personally I'd do that route since you're only going to lose more and more return on your other parts.

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Options, in order of cost:

  1. Overclock the crap out of your CPU
  2. Buy the best air cooler that will fit in your case, and overclock the crap out of your CPU
  3. Buy a used i7 (preferably unlocked).
  4. Apply steps 1 and 2 to step 3 (assuming you bought an unlocked i7).

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43 minutes ago, dizmo said:

If you want to upgrade the 8600k is a pretty good option.

Personally I'd do that route since you're only going to lose more and more return on your other parts.

 

Well, he already has an overclockable CPU and a board that supports it, and a CPU cooler can still be used with newer sockets. Why not use the cheaper upgrade now and go with the more expensive upgrade at a later point, especially with the current RAM prices?

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2 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

OP you're actually considering the expenses of a 240mm AiO water cooler, why not just shop for an used i7 4790k instead? it is more likely to give you the performance boost you're after more consistently.

That is not an option. The used market is full of swindlers and falsely advertised products and HIGHLY overpriced genuine components which are rare as hen's teeth

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So the general consensus is:

 

Its too expensive to eek more out of the system. I guess it will be an 80% upgrade.

 

Only the CPU, board and RAM need to be changed. Any recommendations for a system that is fit for:

 

Video Editing in NLE and after effects

Maybe 3D modelling in blender.

Some Photoshop

LOTS of gaming

?

 

 

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39 minutes ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:

So the general consensus is:

 

Its too expensive to eek more out of the system. I guess it will be an 80% upgrade.

 

Only the CPU, board and RAM need to be changed. Any recommendations for a system that is fit for:

 

Video Editing in NLE and after effects

Maybe 3D modelling in blender.

Some Photoshop

LOTS of gaming

?

 

 

Honestly a 4690k is fine, and the best upgrade to make would be a cooler to overclock your CPU, a cooler that can be reused on any future upgrades. So there isn't really any downside to getting a cooler and overclocking. 

 

Alternatively, you could also try to sell the CPU+Board+Ram and switch to a 1600/1700 and use the stock cooler, which should give better rendering performance and the same gaming performance (with some better minimums).

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4 hours ago, Ground said:

Well, he already has an overclockable CPU and a board that supports it, and a CPU cooler can still be used with newer sockets. Why not use the cheaper upgrade now and go with the more expensive upgrade at a later point, especially with the current RAM prices?

I stated why. To get the most return from his aging hardware.

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8 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

Honestly a 4690k is fine, and the best upgrade to make would be a cooler to overclock your CPU, a cooler that can be reused on any future upgrades. So there isn't really any downside to getting a cooler and overclocking. 

 

Alternatively, you could also try to sell the CPU+Board+Ram and switch to a 1600/1700 and use the stock cooler, which should give better rendering performance and the same gaming performance (with some better minimums).

The upgrade will happen in july. And I want to change platforms. Any reasons to not buy coffee lake/ ryzen? The budget isenough for stretching to r5 1700 or 8600k

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Just overclock it to the highest frequency that will be still stable.

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