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What is a large company that you never expected to fail, that did?

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Nokia. All it has to produce are tough and durable phones, laptops and watches, but they decided not to.

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Yahoo. In an "if you asked me 15 years ago" type deal. Not the WATCH OUT FOR THAT SLOW MOVING GLACIER! situation it ended up in.

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apple :( (i mean, if steve jobs was still alive...)  Because now they only think about how to make money and less innovating (aren't they?)

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too many. 

 

There isnt a thing that is called: "TOO BIG TO FAIL".

See how big google is and how much money they earn just from advertisement. 

But they still need to create android system. (at least bought from andy rubin) they still need to make sure that their search engine is everywhere, from desktop to mobile.

They still need to develop google chrome. 

They still need to spend a shit tons of money develop their own network google fibre. 

 

For what? just to prevent themselves from getting out competed. They still need to make sure that whenever we go online, we need their service. 

If it is not broken, let's fix till it is. 

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The thing is this. If you don't revolutionize your own business, or at least try to diversify when you are ahead, when somebody else does, you are dead. Within a few years. 

 

Nobody wants that. 

 

But there are still many many businesses that focus on "getting the top 5% people richer and richer  and fuck everybody else" strategy. Those company aren't meant to do well in the long run. Everyone just want to cash the fuck in and run. 

If it is not broken, let's fix till it is. 

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14 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Nokia. All it has to produce are tough and durable phones, laptops and watches, but they decided not to.

Not that they decided not to, but apple took them by surprise. 

Apple put a mini computer inside their phone. Nobody saw it coming. 

If it is not broken, let's fix till it is. 

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IBM (the pc division), Nokia.

4 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

apple :( (i mean, if steve jobs was still alive...)  Because now they only think about how to make money and less innovating (aren't they?)

Apple is doing better than they ever have, financially. They are also running things exactly the way Jobs used to, they just aren't as good as bullshitting their way through presentations. Cook telling you they are releasing a new macbook that is less practical and more expensive than the old one, in a tone that sounds like he's reading off a spec sheet, just isn't as charming as Jobs ranting for an hour on why this is the future and how they invented a new age in computing, without telling you anything about the product itself.

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The Global Financial Crisis in a nutshell...

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3 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Apple is doing better than they ever have, financially. They are also running things exactly the way Jobs used to, they just aren't as good as bullshitting their way through presentations.

Couldn't agree more with this. Apple is strong, especially financially. And the steve jobs bullshiting part is true too. But that's marketing huh? Marketing is everywhere. 

If it is not broken, let's fix till it is. 

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9 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

newegg

 

1 minute ago, MasterRaceMcqueen said:

McDonald's

Neither of these have failed.

Newegg might be in some trouble and McDonalds is slowing down in growth but they are still there and going strong.

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1 minute ago, HKZeroFive said:

The Global Financial Crisis in a nutshell...

"The thing about financial crisis is that everyone thinks that they can get out on the last minute. But there isn't a clock on the wall for everyone to look at".

If it is not broken, let's fix till it is. 

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2 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

Not that they decided not to, but apple took them by surprise. 

Apple put a mini computer inside their phone. Nobody saw it coming. 

Nokia could have copied what other names like LG and HTC did in response: Android and ARM-based hardware. All they have to do is stick to "reliable". Business users are willing to use devices that arent that comfortable to use as long as it's super reliable, which old Nokia phones are. Instead they tried Symbian, then Windows Phone, but none of the two worked at all.

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25 minutes ago, SlipperyPete said:

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I mean, I suppose it's been dying for the last decade, but it's one of the oldest companies in North America - it was founded in 1886.

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Instead they tried Symbian, then Windows Phone, but none of the two worked at all.

I always thought Symbian is okay. Windows phone because microsoft send in a fucking spy and they pretty much played Nokia and took advantage of it. When you are weak, you become other's dessert. Its all business. Even nokia knows that. 

If it is not broken, let's fix till it is. 

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29 minutes ago, Legendarypoet said:

Yahoo. In an "if you asked me 15 years ago" type deal. Not the WATCH OUT FOR THAT SLOW MOVING GLACIER! situation it ended up in.

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1 minute ago, JDE said:

Sears Canadia + NCIX (just starting) + Toys R Us

To be fair, NCIX failing is still just speculation. The fact that they had to close down their Ontario Retail Stores doesn't necessarily mean they are dying - retail stores are very expensive to operate, and Computer Electronics sales have always had super slim margins.

 

So long as they can maintain their Online Store to the same degree as they have, they could still survive and recover.

 

First thing they need to do is update their goddamn website to the 21st Century. NewEgg is really one of the only computer electronics stores that has a good website with excellent filtering.

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