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mbryant
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1st off, is Ryzen still proving to be viable? I haven't really kept up.

 

2 years ago I built my current system, 4790K, MSI SLI Krait Edition MOBO, 16GB of RAM and a GTX 1070. I've also got a 1TB HDD, 120 and 250 GB SSD's.

 

Yesterday I was trying to render a video in premier that had a color grade applied to it and watch another video in Chrome. When I tried to click to the next video on YouTube, my monitors all went blank ( my Audio Interface is connected to one of my monitors VIA USB turned off for a second too) and then adobe crashed. CPU was pegged at 100% while the render was happening as well. I've been considering upgrading, I just don't really know which direction to go in from here.

System: i7 4790K, Hyper 212 EVO, 16 GB Crucial Ballistix, GTX 1070 Super clocked, MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition, Corsair RM 750, Corsair 750D (with 2 additional 140mm NZXT fans up top for exhaust.) 

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You can apply a bit extra voltage to the CPU. Personally I think it's just the CPU getting unstable at its current settings due to age.

 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

You can apply a bit extra voltage to the CPU. Personally I think it's just the CPU getting unstable at its current settings due to age.

 

Strange, I've never over clocked it. Always thought I might but I just don't really want to push it more with the 212 EVO on it. It hits about 68c max temp when I'm rendering

System: i7 4790K, Hyper 212 EVO, 16 GB Crucial Ballistix, GTX 1070 Super clocked, MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition, Corsair RM 750, Corsair 750D (with 2 additional 140mm NZXT fans up top for exhaust.) 

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Did you check your CPU temp? It could be overheating.

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Just now, Simon771 said:

Did you check your CPU temp? It could be overheating.

max was 68c

System: i7 4790K, Hyper 212 EVO, 16 GB Crucial Ballistix, GTX 1070 Super clocked, MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition, Corsair RM 750, Corsair 750D (with 2 additional 140mm NZXT fans up top for exhaust.) 

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1 minute ago, mbryant said:

Strange, I've never over clocked it. Always thought I might but I just don't really want to push it more with the 212 EVO on it. It hits about 68c max temp when I'm rendering

68C is quite low. As long as it doesnt go past 75C or 1.35V I think it's good for long term use.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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if u have a 4790k why would u even upgrade at all, its good enough to run everything for quite a while still :v

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3 minutes ago, mbryant said:

max was 68c

In that case CPU probably didn't cause your software crash.

 

Also either you go to Ryzen or Coffe Lake, you will be buying new CPU+motherboard+RAM. Keep in mind that RAM is very expnsive right now for some reason.

You would be investing a lot of money for marginal better performance. Not sure if it's worth for you, as long as you can figure out what caused your problem and fix it.

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1 minute ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

 

 

1 minute ago, Simon771 said:

In that case CPU probably didn't cause your software crash.

 

Also either you go to Ryzen or Coffe Lake, you will be buying new CPU+motherboard+RAM. Keep in mind that RAM is very expnsive right now for some reason.

You would be investing a lot of money for marginal better performance. Not sure if it's worth for you, as long as you can figure out what caused your problem and fix it.

Well the thing is that my CPU was pegged at 100% the whole time too, it's not necessarily the temp I'm worried about, it's the load

System: i7 4790K, Hyper 212 EVO, 16 GB Crucial Ballistix, GTX 1070 Super clocked, MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition, Corsair RM 750, Corsair 750D (with 2 additional 140mm NZXT fans up top for exhaust.) 

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2 minutes ago, mbryant said:

 

Well the thing is that my CPU was pegged at 100% the whole time too, it's not necessarily the temp I'm worried about, it's the load

at rendering it will most likely go to 100% te whole time unless u  change the allocation on the cores to the program :P

even 16core chips will go 100% and get the same ect, u can disable some threads in most rendering programs ( so u can keep doing stuff )

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16 minutes ago, mbryant said:

Well the thing is that my CPU was pegged at 100% the whole time too, it's not necessarily the temp I'm worried about, it's the load

Blame your software for that xD

CPU won't just go to 100% load for no reason. Software is the one responsible, that there is any load on CPU.

You can always look at task manager, what software/service is using your CPU power.

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Just now, Simon771 said:

Blame your software for that xD

CPU won't just go to 100% load for no reason. Software is the one responsible, that there is any load on CPU.

You can always look at task manager, what software/service is using your CPU power.

Well I already know the culprit is adobe :p. 

System: i7 4790K, Hyper 212 EVO, 16 GB Crucial Ballistix, GTX 1070 Super clocked, MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition, Corsair RM 750, Corsair 750D (with 2 additional 140mm NZXT fans up top for exhaust.) 

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5 minutes ago, mbryant said:

Well I already know the culprit is adobe :p. 

In that case it doesn't matter what CPU you will get.

Rendering software will put 100% load on any CPU.

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