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Hey, guys, 

 

I've been having a bit of an issue recently, and it's kinda hard to explain. I have a Logitech G502 mouse that I use at 12000DPI and 1000hz polling rate, as of lately it's been doing this thing that my FPS just drops super low whenever I'm moving my mouse, It doesn't happen as badly with a lower polling rate, but using lower polling rates just doesn't feel that great to me. I recorded a video to try and showcase the issue, I don't know if it will show that great though. It's completely random too, Halfway through the video, it stopped happening and things weren't as bad, There was still a few FPS drops from moving the mouse here and there but nothing too bad. You should see it best with the osu! gameplay, At 1000hz polling rate my FPS is really unstable and drops all the time, Yet at 125 I don't have any drops and my FPS stays over 3000 for the most part. (Yes even with an FPS Cap it would still drop, I have it uncapped for a lower amount of input lag which feels better for osu! imo) I'll link the video as soon as it finishes uploading, If you guys want any more info I'll do my best to supply it to you. 

 

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Here's a link to the video, It's still uploading and processing but it should be done in about 15 min.  

 

Fuck, It's also midnight here, So I need to get some shuteye before morning, I'll reply to everyone asap when I wake up though!

 

Video is 98% uploaded now! Will be done soon, Thanks guys!

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just use it at 500Hz

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Just now, NumLock21 said:

just use it at 500Hz

I tried doing that, Still has the same issue, Just not as bad. Plus I couldn't get used to the feel.

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Have you tried restarting?

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Just now, sazrocks said:

Have you tried restarting?

Yes sir, I've tried to reboot, sometimes it fixes it for a little bit, I just have the issue from boot up. I've even gone as far as to reinstall the OS

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3 minutes ago, Mailbox said:

I tried doing that, Still has the same issue, Just not as bad. Plus I couldn't get used to the feel.

The feel... of it updating 500 times per second...?  Hm, I think if you can feel a difference between that and 1000 something very strange is going on.

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2 minutes ago, Mailbox said:

Yes sir, I've tried to reboot, sometimes it fixes it for a little bit, I just have the issue from boot up. I've even gone as far as to reinstall the OS

Interesting. Are your graphics drivers up to date? Reason I'm asking is because i've had what i think is your issue and its always graphics driver related.

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CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X w/PBO on (6c 12t for host, 6c 12t for guest)

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Just now, Ryan_Vickers said:

The feel... of it updating 500 times per second...?  Hm, I think if you can feel a difference between that and 1000 something very strange is going on.

I don't know, I thought it was because I'm so used to playing at ultrahigh DPI's and such. It just doesn't feel as responsive, Just enough to throw me off, Know what I mean?

 

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1 minute ago, Mailbox said:

I don't know, I thought it was because I'm so used to playing at ultrahigh DPI's and such. It just doesn't feel as responsive, Just enough to throw me off, Know what I mean?

 

Well, in theory there should only be a 1 ms difference, so either you are some kind of superhuman, or the theory is not right, and something is causing the difference to be significantly greater.

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2 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

Interesting. Are your graphics drivers up to date? Reason I'm asking is because i've had what i think is your issue and its always graphics driver related.

Currently using Driver Version 385.41, Downloading 385.69 right now. I'll update you right after they install.

 

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Well, in theory there should only be a 1 ms difference, so either you are some kind of superhuman, or the theory is not right, and something is causing the difference to be significantly greater.

I don't know honestly, It's so hard to explain to, I've done research on this as well and haven't found much on this issue. At least nothing too useful 

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Video just finished uploading! Got drivers 385.69 installed, sadly no change in performance what so ever. 

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