General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[Guest]

35 minutes ago, SpiderMan said:

I couldn't figure it out haha. I just did a clean boot and disabled things again. This is what I got after trying again. I think I have to go back to the drawing board with the ratios. 

 

Hold shift and control, then on the bar in a blank area right click the mouse button. 

 

As you see below.

 

What is your memory running? 

 

 

[CommanderAlex]

12 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Hold shift and control, then on the bar in a blank area right click the mouse button. 

 

As you see below.

 

What is your memory running? 

 

 

Ah I got it now!! 

 

Memory is running at DDR4-3600 CL18. The exact kit is CMK16GX4M2D3600C18 times 4 for 64GB. Exact tested timings are 18-22-22-42. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, SpiderMan said:

Ah I got it now!! 

 

Memory is running at DDR4-3600 CL18. The exact kit is CMK16GX4M2D3600C18 times 4 for 64GB. Exact tested timings are 18-22-22-42. 

Oh nice! That's a lot of memory. Your score would go up with a higher frequency and tighter timings, but that one is on you. If it works as it is, may not be worth all the trouble to tweak a higher score. But it's good to see Venegence working well with Intel, lot of people have issues on them AMD rigs.

 

I was playing around last night with AIDA64 and Trying   to get under 40ns latency. 

Stopped at 3866mhz 14-14-14-34/444 1.50v

2x8gb sticks. G.Skill F4-4266C19-8GTZKW

Never did finish the tweaking. Got too late lol. 

[TopHatProductions115]

*sees this thread on their T7500*

*quietly sneaks by with DL580 G7*

 

 

[drevmcast]

Oh man, no posts in over a month. Might as well show off my new build.

 

Last year I purchased a Intel S5520SC for about 70 dollars. I had hopes of daily-ing it for weeks before that project was put on the backburner for a number of reasons. Last month for my birthday I decided to finally finalize everything. The name of the game was price to performance, which this machine excels at.

Here's the specs:

2 x5675s
Kingston DDR3-1066 24G
Intel S5520SC
two Hyper 212 Black Evos
Deepcool MATREXX case (Which supports SSI-EEB and EATX) I picked it since it was the smallest and cheapest case that supported EATX.
EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W G2

GTX 980

USB 3.0 Card

my trusty PNY 256 Gig boot drive, a BarraCuda LP which I use to store video.

Samsung 970 Evo 1TB that I use a scratch drive + game drive.

 

Man was this thing a pain to build. I think the largest problems I had was space in this case using a large PSU which impacted cable management and configuring fan speeds. No matter what I changed in the BIOS fans would constantly run at 100%. I had read that updating the FSU/SDR on the board would open up more options. Since Intel pulled all BIOS and firmware for all their legacy products on their site I was almost out of luck until I found an archive of the entire Intel download center. https://archive.org/details/downloadcenter.intel.com .I was able to update all the firmware on the board but still nothing seems to work correctly without an ambient temperature sensor, which my unit lacks. At the moment I just have the system tricked to thinking there are no fans on anything but the CPU, which runs all connected fans at slow speeds. My temps are in a reasonable range, 30-40C.

 

As for OS I chose Gentoo Linux. Compile times for packages are speedy and compiling my kernel only takes a minute or two.

 

I think this is the fastest one of these systems can really get. Faster RAM, x5690s, or a NVMe root directory could in theory boost performance but it would be marginal overall. Let me know what you guys think.

 

 

 

 

[kelvinhall05]

Running an X5650 on a Sabertooth X58. Currently stable at 4.2GHz, 1.35V, but want to see if I can get a bit more performance. Complete noob when it comes to any OC. Current settings (everything under the "DRAM timing control" dropdown is set to auto):

Spoiler

Anything immediately obvious that I should change? Any suggestions on higher OC or just more performance in general? Thanks!

[GillyMoMo]

Just built this thing two days ago. Boy was it a wormhole though. I should have looked at the ILMs before I bought a bunch of stuff. But it's done. More pictures to come. Not sure what I'll do with my x5675's now

[CommanderAlex]

2 minutes ago, GillyMoMo said:

Just built this thing two days ago. Boy was it a wormhole though. I should have looked at the ILMs before I bought a bunch of stuff. But it's done. More pictures to come. Not sure what I'll do with my x5675's now

~Snipped forum~

That motherboard is huge!

[GillyMoMo]

3 minutes ago, SpiderMan said:

That motherboard is huge!

Wait until I get a picture of it with it in the case. It's ridiculously huge!

[GillyMoMo]

Pictures of the finished product as requested. If you look you can see how far that board extends. It's super huge because there are double spaced gaps for 4 GPU's. I lost the last one since that case is just not big enough and it's a Rosewill Thor which is pretty huge. 

[Guest]

55 minutes ago, GillyMoMo said:

Pictures of the finished product as requested. If you look you can see how far that board extends. It's super huge because there are double spaced gaps for 4 GPU's. I lost the last one since that case is just not big enough and it's a Rosewill Thor which is pretty huge. 

 

I love that old green board. Always takes old people back to a time..... Nice build man. Real clean. I dig it.

[GillyMoMo]

15 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

I love that old green board. Always takes old people back to a time..... Nice build man. Real clean. I dig it.

Thanks! And yes a much simpler time when PCB's were either green or brown and no RGB. Though I do miss the early 2K machines those colors were super wild. That and cathode tube builds. 

[SeanBeanDiesInTheEnd]

Hello. Long time lurker, and coming from TUp! was hoping maybe someone here has a possible solution to my little Dilemma. Not the best 1st post and sorry for the long read, but maybe someone here will like the challenge. I can't get my PC to post with a newly acquired XEON x5675...

My core current specs:

ASUS P6T Deluxe v2 - flashed to BIOS 1202

i7-920 C0 - OC to 3.8

12GB G.Skill DDR3

650w EVGA supernova P2

Corsair H80 watercooler (old I know, but I do maintain it and clean the coolant - runs my 920 @ 35 degreesC)

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my 920 3.8 OC setting if it means anything:

 

Load Line Calibration: Enabled

CPU Differential Amp.: 800mV

CPU Clock Skew: Delay 300ps

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled

IOH Clock Skew : 300ps

PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

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AI Overclock Tuner: Manual (9-9-9-24/2n)

CPU Ratio Setting: 19

Intel (R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech: Disabled

BLCK Frequency: 200

PCIE Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: DDR3-1603MHz

UCLK Frequency: 3208MHz

QPI Link Data Rate: 7218MT/s

 

CPU Voltage: 1.38125v

CPU PLL Voltage: 1.88

QPI/DRAM Core Voltage: 1.36875v

IOH Voltage: 1.20

IOH PCIE Voltage: Auto

ICH Voltage: 1.20

ICH PCIE Voltage: Auto

DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.5 (my ram is rated for this)

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Triple checked everything is connected and made sure the CPU is seated correctly, prior to installing the x5675 I can confirm there's no bent socket pins or any visual damage there (images below). It boots my 920 fine, but no post with the x5675.

> It shouldn't be an issue with G.Skill RAM I have, I've read of people using it with x56xx setups fine. Have these:

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL - Newegg.com

 

> NOTE: The x5675 is not officially listed as a supported CPU on ASUS' website, but I have read several threads of successful setups running any x56xx on a P6Td V2 using the latest BIOS v. 1202 including here.

What I've done so far:
-I cleared the CMOS normally, nothing
-I removed the coin battery AND then cleared the CMOS, nothing

- replaced the coin battery and repeated the steps above, nothing
-Motherboard and CPU power cables are connected and not touching any heatsinks or other components
-waterblock is tightened to 'finger tight', so no excessive pressure on the board to cause flex
-removed RAM and reseated all 12 gb, nothing
-removed RAM and installed 2 sticks (A1 + B1), nothing

-removed RAM and installed 3 sticks (A1 + B1 + C1), nothing

 

Pics of the socket and back of x5675 confirming to bent pins or broken contact pads on the CPU:

[Slayer3032]

I guess it's possible the X5675 is dead, I'd probably order up another X5675 or maybe scoop up a nice socket protector like a $6 E5649 although with X5670's coming in at $13 you can often get a decent bin with one of those. X5650's and X5660's are also of course available. W3670's are also another alternative but generally run a bit higher than another X5675.

 

My home server runs a standard P6T with the latest bios and a X5660, the Deluxe boards are pretty solid overclockers from what I remember so it really shouldn't be the board.

[GillyMoMo]

Perhaps a bios update?

[SeanBeanDiesInTheEnd]

1 hour ago, Slayer3032 said:

I guess it's possible the X5675 is dead, I'd probably order up another X5675 or maybe scoop up a nice socket protector like a $6 E5649 although with X5670's coming in at $13 you can often get a decent bin with one of those. X5650's and X5660's are also of course available. W3670's are also another alternative but generally run a bit higher than another X5675.

 

My home server runs a standard P6T with the latest bios and a X5660, the Deluxe boards are pretty solid overclockers from what I remember so it really shouldn't be the board.

So I was thinking this, I ordered the CPU from Amazon. It's a legit run by amazon "amazon renewed", dat warranty. I already said it didn't work and they refunded me, and let me keep the CPU.

 

Part of me is thinking did I not prep the board correctly? Meaning do I do anything special, like set DRAM and QPI higher, or is literally plop the old out with the new and the motherboard takes care of the rest. It's a solid board and the 920 runs beautifully.

7 minutes ago, GillyMoMo said:

Perhaps a bios update?

Already running the latest 1202. 

[Slayer3032]

For me I want to say with the P6T I just popped the X5660 in after flashing with a i7 930. On my gigabyte board, it was just hit the cmos button after swapping the cpu I think. It's been a minute since I've upgraded something from Nehalem, but it doesn't require anything special or pre-configuration before swapping.

 

It's a supported cpu by microcode, it should generally work. If you toss the bios file at intelmicrocodelist.exe and it has the 206C2 microcode, it should post at least. There's a few very early boards like the EVGA ones specifically which won't post with a dual QPI cpu and require a W series or i7 sku(can't remember if E series has dual socket support). There's also some boards where the latest bios versions have the 0F microcode for 206C2, this microcode is often the one that's stock on boards and if you change the Uncore multiplier from the default 20x it will refuse to post.

 

Neither of these should be an issue for that board.

[Aveniform]

Has anybody successfully gotten an 8gb stick of RAM to work on an Asus P6X58D-E? The stick in question is the Kingston ACR16D3LU1MNG/8G, and I am pairing this with a Xeon X5650.

[Zando_]

2 hours ago, Aveniform said:

Has anybody successfully gotten an 8gb stick of RAM to work on an Asus P6X58D-E? The stick in question is the Kingston ACR16D3LU1MNG/8G, and I am pairing this with a Xeon X5650.

Should work fine, haven't seen anyone having issues with 8GB DIMMs on X58 boards.

[Aveniform]

Thanks for the response, Zando Bob! I am tentatively about to acquire a working X58 board for a good price, so my RAM will pair nicely. Looking forward to experiencing the X58 platform, a mere 12 years late to the party...

[drevmcast]

On 6/13/2021 at 4:39 PM, Aveniform said:

Has anybody successfully gotten an 8gb stick of RAM to work on an Asus P6X58D-E? The stick in question is the Kingston ACR16D3LU1MNG/8G, and I am pairing this with a Xeon X5650.

I use 8gb sticks on my Asus P6T7 WS Supercomputer, depends on the stick of ram but every stick Ive tried works fine. Make sure to post your build here so we all can see it!

[Troika]

I am the big sad today. My MSI X58 Big Bang xPower had passed away. The Alphacool Eisstation I was using for the waterloop leaked onto the board and shorted something. The board doesn't power on anymore and I don't know if the memory is ok or its fried too. I contacted Alphacool yesterday since the res is only about two months old and one of the plugs that were installed in the pump compartment from the factory had been cracked internally. I'm not expecting much but I hope they can do something for me.

 

On a unrelated note, my main rig is getting a new motherboard today because the B450 Steel Legend board that's currently in it has periodic seizures and crashes in various ways.

[Troika]

Good news! Alphacool got back to me this morning saying they'll refund me the cost of the reservoir and compensate me 100€ for damages. I really wasn't expecting much to happen but good on Alphacool! I'll be putting those funds into getting a new X58 board. Now to decide which one. A Rampage III seems like the obvious goto for a very high end board but is it really that good?

[Zando_]

9 hours ago, Troika said:

A Rampage III seems like the obvious goto for a very high end board but is it really that good?

Should be. I had 0 issues with my Rampage III Formula, Extreme should only be better. I'm partial to EVGA Classified boards but the BIOS has a shittier layout and color scheme.

[CryingWimp]

On 6/13/2021 at 8:39 PM, Aveniform said:

Has anybody successfully gotten an 8gb stick of RAM to work on an Asus P6X58D-E? The stick in question is the Kingston ACR16D3LU1MNG/8G, and I am pairing this with a Xeon X5650.

I've done it on a Asus P6T Deluxe V2, not with a total of 48GB though. I have heard issues getting 48GB of ram stable, presumably at higher speeds(Can't remember). Wonder if it has anything to do with ranks or the odds of different chips not liking each other when mixing 6 sticks not from a kit