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General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

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Get B-Die 3600CL16 or 3200CL14 for X99. Very fast and stable. 

 

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After purchasing the last i9-10980XE at my local Micro Center this past Sunday, I finally decided to kick down the doors heading into the weekend by installing it. During the procedure I had to clean out the case (already a month since last cleaned) and swapped in the 10980XE. I'll probably keep the i7-9800X around as a souvenir of my first HEDT CPU ( an expensive souvenir as well!!) but ran some Cinebench R20 and this is what I got. 

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CPU: Intel i9-10980XE 18C/36T  ||  CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Air Cooler ||  RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 64GB(8x8GB) DDR4-3600 CL18  ||  Mobo: MSI X299 Gaming Pro Carbon AC  ||  SSD: Samsung 970 EVO  1TB M.2-2280 Boot Drive/Some Games)  ||  HDD:2X Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB(Game Drive)  ||  GPU: MSI RTX 2080 GAMING X TRIO  ||  PSU: EVGA P2 1600W  ||  Case: Corsair 900D  ||  Mouse: Logitech G502 Hero SE RGB  ||  Keyboard: Logitech G513 Carbon RGB with GX Blue Clicky Switches  ||  Mouse Pad: MAINGEAR ASSIST XL ||  MonitorMSI MAG271CQR 144HZ 27" 

 

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Dang. How's it fare in R15?

 

This weekend my hope is to spin up the SR2 again to decide whether to sell it off in favor of a 10980xe solution. I found a great motherboard for X299 that has 7 full pcie slots, supposedly with solid iommu groups, without any of the quirkiness the SR2 has.

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7 hours ago, bimmerman said:

Dang. How's it fare in R15?

 

This weekend my hope is to spin up the SR2 again to decide whether to sell it off in favor of a 10980xe solution. I found a great motherboard for X299 that has 7 full pcie slots, supposedly with solid iommu groups, without any of the quirkiness the SR2 has.

I'll try it out in a bit after waking up and having a cup of Joe. I see they updated the forum as mentioned in Announcements and looks sleek so far. 

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I just completed a Cinebench R15 run as well and for multicore performance, it will run at 4.6Ghz and single core performance at 3.0Ghz. @bimmerman

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Hey guys, I just swapped in a 10980xe into my MSI X299 Gaming Pro Carbon AC, replacing my i7-9800X. I didn't clear CMOS as I figured the computer should be fine. I decided to download AIDA64 Extreme (trial version) and test the CPU out. The second I hit start, the computer freezes and BSODs with "WHEA UNCORRECTABLE ERROR". I think I pin pointed down to the "Enhanced Turbo" feature in my BIOS's settings as when I change it from "Enabled" to "Auto", I don't get any crashes at all. Also when it's set to enabled, the cores would reach 4600mhz at around 1.242V. Enhanced Turbo is basically an easy overclock feature that you can set in BIOS I suppose right? Should I just keep this feature at the default "Auto"? 

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Hi guys. I finally changed my ram sticks I bought gskill ripjawsz 4x4 gb 1866. I changed a couple of settings to use ram as 1866mhz. I m testing ram with aida64 memory stress test no error or anything however there is something that makes me wonder when I m testing only ram, cpu usage doesnt reach its full potential. I dont remember what was the cpu usage with previous ram sticks when just testing system memory. I tried to raise cpu voltage and qpi vtt voltage and nothing changed. Is it normal or what ? thx for any reply already. Have a nice night.

 

Edit: I had disabled virtuel memory since 16 gb was enough. I tried by enabling virtual memory it seems that is the issue. Thx anyway u all were  really helpfull since I first posted in this topic. I appreciate it. Especially biggest thx to @Vacras cuz he never got bored of helping me :D
 

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2 hours ago, m4shroom said:

Hi guys. I finally changed my ram sticks I bought gskill ripjawsz 4x4 gb 1866. I changed a couple of settings to use ram as 1866mhz. I m testing ram with aida64 memory stress test no error or anything however there is something that makes me wonder when I m testing only ram, cpu usage doesnt reach its full potential. I dont remember what was the cpu usage with previous ram sticks when just testing system memory. I tried to raise cpu voltage and qpi vtt voltage and nothing changed. Is it normal or what ? thx for any reply already. Have a nice night.

 

Edit: I had disabled virtuel memory since 16 gb was enough. I tried by enabling virtual memory it seems that is the issue. Thx anyway u all were  really helpfull since I first posted in this topic. I appreciate it. Especially biggest thx to @Vacras cuz he never got bored of helping me :D

 

Glad you are liking your system so much :D

 

As for me when I do System memory stress test my cpu is at 100%

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This might seem a very odd request, but does anyone know a place where one could get the xeon backplate for 1366? preferably within the UK but if it has to come from elsewhere I'll take it, I've got a thinkstation S20 here that I can't use the original cooler for because it doesn't have the xeon backplate thing so I'm having to stick to an intel stock cooler, which will be fine on the L5640 but i dunno how well that'll fare with a W3670 

current rig: Threadripper 2950X, custom water for cpu and gpu, MSI X399 meg creation, 32gb (4x8gb) viper steel 4133MHz running 3200MHz CL14 (for now), 1080TI FE, evga 1600 G2, phanteks eclipse P400A, 256gb SSD for boot and a 1tb HDD for games (temp), one 27" 1440p 75hz panel, two 24" 1080p 60hz panel and one 1200p 60hz panel

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5 hours ago, the pudding said:

This might seem a very odd request, but does anyone know a place where one could get the xeon backplate for 1366? preferably within the UK but if it has to come from elsewhere I'll take it, I've got a thinkstation S20 here that I can't use the original cooler for because it doesn't have the xeon backplate thing so I'm having to stick to an intel stock cooler, which will be fine on the L5640 but i dunno how well that'll fare with a W3670 

I might have one, just need to remember to check.

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2 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

I might have one, just need to remember to check.

Ahh that'd be brill, no worries if not mind you, no rush either and all

current rig: Threadripper 2950X, custom water for cpu and gpu, MSI X399 meg creation, 32gb (4x8gb) viper steel 4133MHz running 3200MHz CL14 (for now), 1080TI FE, evga 1600 G2, phanteks eclipse P400A, 256gb SSD for boot and a 1tb HDD for games (temp), one 27" 1440p 75hz panel, two 24" 1080p 60hz panel and one 1200p 60hz panel

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With that said, here's the system in question 😜 

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current rig: Threadripper 2950X, custom water for cpu and gpu, MSI X399 meg creation, 32gb (4x8gb) viper steel 4133MHz running 3200MHz CL14 (for now), 1080TI FE, evga 1600 G2, phanteks eclipse P400A, 256gb SSD for boot and a 1tb HDD for games (temp), one 27" 1440p 75hz panel, two 24" 1080p 60hz panel and one 1200p 60hz panel

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Hi all, I've got a question for ya~

 

My current rig is still a chugger but does me well:

Gigabite x58a-ud3r rev1.0 with a xeon w3680 clocked at 3.8ghz all cores (2050 cinebench R20 score) paired to a GTX1070 and am looking to upgrade its ram a bit, I have 2 random sticks of 4gb 1066mhz and wanted to know if this combination is capable of using registered ECC ram (specifically 3x8gb modules) as I found some kits for $45, or if I'll be forced to run an unbuffered set (cheapest I could find was $90..)

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3 hours ago, Camo5 said:

Hi all, I've got a question for ya~

 

My current rig is still a chugger but does me well:

Gigabite x58a-ud3r rev1.0 with a xeon w3680 clocked at 3.8ghz all cores (2050 cinebench R20 score) paired to a GTX1070 and am looking to upgrade its ram a bit, I have 2 random sticks of 4gb 1066mhz and wanted to know if this combination is capable of using registered ECC ram (specifically 3x8gb modules) as I found some kits for $45, or if I'll be forced to run an unbuffered set (cheapest I could find was $90..)

No, you can't use registered memory on that board.

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10 hours ago, Camo5 said:

Hi all, I've got a question for ya~

 

My current rig is still a chugger but does me well:

Gigabite x58a-ud3r rev1.0 with a xeon w3680 clocked at 3.8ghz all cores (2050 cinebench R20 score) paired to a GTX1070 and am looking to upgrade its ram a bit, I have 2 random sticks of 4gb 1066mhz and wanted to know if this combination is capable of using registered ECC ram (specifically 3x8gb modules) as I found some kits for $45, or if I'll be forced to run an unbuffered set (cheapest I could find was $90..)

Registered ECC ram has always been pretty much locked off of consumer chipsets and this is intentional so that it doesn't cut into their top shelf server market, this even applies to X58 based servers and workstations like the thinkstation S20 much to my distain since I run one of those as a server and I'd love to shove ECC reg in there, needs to be 5520 based for ECC reg iirc

current rig: Threadripper 2950X, custom water for cpu and gpu, MSI X399 meg creation, 32gb (4x8gb) viper steel 4133MHz running 3200MHz CL14 (for now), 1080TI FE, evga 1600 G2, phanteks eclipse P400A, 256gb SSD for boot and a 1tb HDD for games (temp), one 27" 1440p 75hz panel, two 24" 1080p 60hz panel and one 1200p 60hz panel

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So, it's been a while since Project BadDecisions was noodled on, but I've made some progress. Also bought some shiny bits (GPUs), some more shiny bits (EK, Heatkiller bits), and even more (socket 2011 2P Supermicro 4 gpu board, cpus, ram, cooler...)

 

Anyway. On to the update!

 

Since the SR2 uses a server chipset with some fuckery, it DOES support ECC. However, getting more than 4GB/slot to work has historically been an enormous pain in the ass. However....most posts on the subject on the internet are circa 2010-2014 era, and things have changed. Why would I need more than 2 CPU x 6 slot/CPU x 4GB/slot = 48 GB total? Well, for those who don't know/remember, the point of this project is to run 4 gaming VMs simultaneously, and the rule of thumb at present is to run 16GB per player, plus some for overhead for the hypervisor. That math....doesn't work with only 48GB total system memory. The best I had configured was 11 GB / player with 1 GB per VM allocated to the hypervisor. It technically works, especially for games like Left 4 Dead (which, realistically, is what this'll be used for primarily in my friend group).

 

So, because the other part of this project is to really push the SR-2 to the limit, I figured why not try for the elusive 96GB. Going over 48GB requires (according to internet, I can't prove/disprove) ECC memory, and supposedly specific kinds of it.

 

I....yolo'd it and bought a Supermicro motherboard with CPUs and 128GB of 1333 DDR3 ECC RAM for less than the price of just 96 GB ECC on ebay. Upside, I have another test bed if the SR2 just fails and I need more cores, since that SM board will tackle up to 12 cores/socket and has 4x x16 3.0 slots at double spacing....so it's technically the better way to go. If yall remember the Supermicro board I had bought before, this is the same thing just for socket 2011 (x79 era stuff). Anyway, that's boring, and can't overclock, and was intended to be a way to get ram.

 

So, I popped out 12 sticks of the ECC goodness and got tinkering. I can't speak to how much of a pain this would be with the earlier production stuff (think X5650, 70s, etc), but the internet says those are much more challenging, especially ES/QS versions, to get this to work. YMMV. For me, with X5675s, this was stupid easy. Step the first: put in 6 sticks, 3 per CPU, and then manually set the timings, speed, and voltage in BIOS. The key here is to manually set the Command Rate to 2. Then power off, install sticks, and BOOM 96 GB. The only critical thing is that you get dual rank 8GB modules (2Rx4). Results are iffy on 16GB or other rank combinations, despite the CPUs' compatibility with 16GB dimms and other ranks...in other motherboards. The SR-2 is a weirdo.

 

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It went shockingly smoothly, once I typed in the correct timing in the correct spot. Clearing CMOS on this thing is a pain in the ass, especially since not all settings get saved in profiles. But hey, here's the proof! 96 GB, running nice and happy at 1333 MHz, at the timings the memory manufacturer's data sheet specified (Samsung, in this case).

 

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Eagle eyed readers will see the next part of the update.

 

Previously I had been using rando GPUs I and friends had lying around. The plan all along has been to run 4 GPUs, but here comes SR-2 pain in the ass part the second-- due to the janky way the chipset on this era stuff is laid out, the maximum SATA speed is 3GB/s, and there is almost no USB3 on the board....and what there is, is sharing bandwidth with the singular SATA 3 (6GB/s) controller, all of which is set behind a singular PCIe 2.0 lane (5GB/s bandwidth). In simple terms, for intense IO, routing through the cipset will bottleneck. Intense IO may be a stretch for four simultaneous gaming VMs, but maybe not-- 4+ SSD drives plus USB connectivity. Simpler math says that'll suck if I can't figure out a solution....which I did: I need to run a PCIe USB controller card, with 4x controllers so that I can pass each controller to separate VMs (enabling hot plug and downstream hubs and things, which is nice), plus an HBA PCIe card to bypass the chipset entirely for my SSDs.

 

So, that's pretty sweet! One problem...the SR2, despite being a 10 slot form factor, only has 7 slots, and GPUs are dual slot. Well shit.

 

Oh, wait, reference design 1080ti can be water blocked to be single slot. And I already have one....

 

Hmmmmmmmmm

 

Yep. Right when the internet was losing its mind over the 3080's performance, prior to realizing you can't actually buy them, I scooped up 3 additional 1080ti that also came with water blocks. Looking back, 20x0 series may have been smarter to buy, as they include a USB controller on the damn thing, but that wouldn't have solved the HBA issue-- if you can use chipset storage, that's the way to go IMO). Anyway, while I'm waiting on radiators to arrive....and free time... I lent one of the 1080Ti to a buddy, borrowed his 1080 in exchange, and threw this together (my main rig is keeping its 1080Ti until it gets upgraded). Right now I have the following setup: 1080TI in slots 1 and 2, HBA card slot 3, 1080ti slots 4 and 5, USB3 controller card slot 6, 1080 non-ti slot 7/8. Since I don't have water cooling fully done yet, this spacing lets the cards breathe without requiring me to tear down my other rig, which is nice.

 

Pr0nz:

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Lastly, before calling it for the evening, I ran a set of Cinebench R15 and R20 for @CommanderAlex's comparison sake (spoiler....10980XE cleans house)

 

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There's no way to spin this. The performance of stock X58 era stuff....is not great. I'll do some more thorough benchmarking in games (and VMs) before I really start tweaking knobs with overclocking, but....while my X5675 scaled Cinebench perf pretty much linearly with OC percent (~148 single core @ 4.5ghz in R15), that's still not great.

 

Next update will likely be a while, but next step is to play with OC as-is before ordering all the water cooling parts, and do a dry (ha!) run with friends to see whether performance of this era stuff is really going to work as gaming VMs where each player is running 2c/4t. Next update may be some performance figures and/or a for sale post-- I don't think overclocking the system is going to make up for only having 2c/4t per player and all the latency from the PCIe multiplexer chips due to the janky-ass PCIe layout (from a virtualization perspective, it's fine in normal use). If that's the case, I'm heavily leaning towards selling it all as a unit to someone who really wants to tinker with the SR2 rather than trying to do some super niche virtualization thing like I am....it's really just not the right set up for my use case. If interested, shoot me a PM haha.

 

I know what my old X5675 would do at its 4.5 GHz limit, which was honestly really good performance in modern-ish titles at higher resolutions, so there's a chance this works. It's really just a question of will it work at 2c/4t (at...likely closer to 4/4.2) AND will the unraid hypervisor be able to run things with 2c/CPU allocated. More details on getting the SR2 working with virtualization in a follow up post, because it's super non-trivial due to the aforementioned NF200 PCIe multiplexer layout. Seriously, to the best of my internet sleuthing, only one guy has done this before and published how he did it, and it's not a small job to work around the multiplexers. But it CAN be done, and I've gotten it to work already in testing, so more details to come.

 

Finally, as I'm writing this and running FAH, the 2x stock X5675s, 2x 1080ti, and 1x 1080 apparently pull enough juice to make my UPS scream bloody murder and trip the overload protection. Fcking Awesome.

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Cinebench R23 on a X5670 @ 4.4GHz (5464 pts)

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X5677 4c/8t @ stock (2996 pts)

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PC 2: Intel Xeon X5677 @ 3.47GHz, HP 0B4Ch (X58), 12GB DDR3 1333MHz, Asus GeForce GTX 660 DC2, 240GB SSD, 1TB HDD

Laptop: Lenovo ThinkPad T440p, Intel Core i7-4800MQ, 12GB DDR3 1600MHz , NVIDIA GeForce GT 730M, 250GB Samsung SSD, 14" 1920x1080 IPS

Phone: Huawei Honor 9 64GB Watch: Motorola Moto 360 1st Gen.

General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion

Some other PC's:

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PC 3: Intel Core i5-3450 @ 3.7GHz, Asus P8Z77-V LK, 12GB DDR3, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760, 500GB HDD

PC 4: Intel Xeon W3550 @ 3.07GHz, HP (X58), 8GB DDR3, NVIDIA GeForce GT 640 (GPU: 1050MHz MEM: 1250MHz), 120GB SSD, 2TB, 1TB and 500GB HDD

PC 5: Intel Core2 Quad Q9550 @ 3.8GHz, Asus P5KC, 8GB DDR2, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470, 120GB SSD and 500GB HDD

HTPC: Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.0GHz, HP DC7900SFF, 8GB DDR2 800MHz, Asus Radeon HD 6570, 240GB SSD and 3TB HDD

WinXP PC: Intel Core2 Duo E6300 @ 2.33GHz, Asus P5B, 2GB DDR2 667MHz, NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT, 32GB SSD and 80GB HDD

RetroPC: Intel Pentium 4 HT @ 3.0GHz, Gigabyte GA-8SGXLFS, 2gb DDR1, ATi Radeon 9800 Pro, 2x 40gb HDD

My first PC: Intel Celeron 333MHz, Diamond Micronics C400, 384mb RAM, Diamond Viper V550 (NVIDIA Riva TNT), 6gb and 8gb HDD

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Whelp.

 

I've been tinkering further with the SR-2.

 

My board and my 96GB Ram do not get along above 145 BCLK. It will post with 48GB just fine, but 96 isn't happening no matter what I've tried, which is a bummer but not the end of the world.

 

However, this kinda is: I wanted to get a baseline of 2 core + 4 thread performance with GPU before I go much further with this platform. The SR-2 has physical jumpers that let you disable/enable CPU and memory banks, and in the BIOS you can tell it how many cores per socket you want it to use. I also set my display GPU to a PCIe slot that was knocked down to PCIe 2.0 x8-- because of the USB 3.0 card and LSi HBA for SSDs, at least two of the VMs will be running their 1080ti at PCIe 2.0 x8 (aka, 3.0 x4) speed. Combining the 2c/4t CPU, at +500mhz over stock, with a 2.0x8 GPU, is going to be the at-best upper bound for the VM configuration.

 

And....performance is not good. I'm getting 38 fps in Shadow of the Tomb Raider at 1080p High. On a 1080ti. With all 12 cores and 24 threads, at STOCK speeds, with a full bandwidth 1080ti, it was pulling down 90+. At 1080p Lowest setting, it poops out 42 fps. It's crazily CPU bottlenecked with 2c/4t, the benchmark tool says there is 0% GPU bound. With the same 2c/4t/8x setup, Doom (2016) is doing ~55-70 range consistently, which is a positive result.

 

So.....where does that leave the project? Realistically, it's game over. I can overclock it a bit more and get another 500MHz out of it without worrying about my total system power budget, but 500 MHz isn't going to magically double framerates. I also can't NOT run at least one GPU at x8 link speed because there are not enough USB expansion ports otherwise.

 

Long way of saying, the SR2 build is over-- my use case of 4x virtualized simultaneous gamers is just not feasible with this motherboard, and it's time to cut my losses and sell off the parts. With all 12c/24t it is a very entertaining platform, especially if you like overclocking and tweaking...I just can't justify keeping it when I have no real use for it.

 

So.

 

Who wants an SR-2 + ram + noctua coolers + CPUs + chipset watercooling parts? And case to fit it (900D)? Send PMs if interested. The board works, it overclocks, it's great....just not for the task I want to use it for. I'm likely going to also sell off my other supermicro 2p boards as well (X8DTG-QF bare, X9DRG-QF + 2x 8c Xeon + 128gb ram + coolers) and just move to a zen 3 threadripper or X299 setup.

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Well seeing everyone posting these R23 benchmarks all over the internet, I was curious what I'd get in R23 so I started off doing a R15 run and updating CPU-Z/HWInfo. But then X58 decided to do weird X58 things despite not having touched my bios in almost a year.

 

I noticed something very strange, my x26 turbo multiplier was being used for some reason even though this thing has ran at 180x25@1.425v for the last two years? I once had a "bug" where I scored 1089 very early on in trying to dial in a stable overclock where it boosted to 4.8ghz and made a great score activating the x26 multiplier but nothing I have ever done would "enable" it.

 

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I guess I'm 4.68ghz on air now despite 181x25 being unstable, as well as 200x23 and other 4.6ghz overclocks I've tried in the past.

 

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Everything seems mostly the same, the scores are normal(1040/137-139 in R15).

 

I'm curious if a recent Windows update did something or if a reboot will "fix it". HWInfo is also pretty sure my base clock swings from 176-183 while CPU-Z seems far more normal. I'm leaning towards "random bug" which will be fixed by a reboot. After a reboot, it still boosts to 4,680mhz and I haven't noticed any instability as of recent. I really wonder what this X5675 would do if I had a good board to put it in.

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Rebuilt my home server into a new case and oh man is this thing way too fancy. This would mark it hitting just about the $300 mark ignoring storage. The old case was getting noisier and noisier but it seems some of the noise was the Zotac GT1030 which manages to be at least twice as loud the Fractal 140mm case fans, Scythe 1200rpm fans and hard drives. I got the board to boot without the GPU so there's no reason to leave it in there.

 

The Define 7 is really an amazing case, I'm so used to Corsair cases and garbage where you have to use multiple people/limbs or both of your forearms and your body weight just to get the side panels on. The side panels are just so damn good. The Scout and my Antec 900 were the only cases I've built in where the side panels actually didn't fight you. Its so well thought out and if you buy a second hard drive cage, you can fit 13 3.5" drives into it without even breaking into the 2-3 extra locations where you can bolt drives to. The P6T isn't happy that I'm not giving the fan hub a PWM fan as everything is 3 pin, it still seems to give the hub pwm out and somehow this thing still doesn't break 50c forcing it to transcode enough movies to likely flood my gigabit lan. Idle temps pretty close the same but slightly higher, but it used to be fairly loud with mostly molex fans and nothing but some foam to dampen sound out the front of the case.

 

My complaints would be that Fractal still overtightens screws as reviewers suggested. The marketing is confusing saying it comes with 4 hdd trays in the accessory kit, picturing it with no trays in the hard drive cage but in fine text in a random image saying it comes with 6 and the cage is populated in box. Nobody seems to take a decent picture of the gray color, its really more of a lighter gray than it comes off in pictures if it's in a bright room. All the reviewers seem to review the black ones which like never goes on sale. I wish they included a few more free zipties. Oh and most of the parts also seem really sensitive to getting finger prints.

 

I spent too many hours messing with the case and trying out different things, so by the time I was done I just wanted to get it plugged in so I didn't really get a chance to take halfway decent pictures.

 

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Just snagged an asrock X79 extreme4-M for £120 on the gumtree machine, pretty chuffed with that, not sure what cpu I'm going to chuck at it, 3930K's are cheap now, 3960X's aren't super expensive either, though I could splurge on a 4930K too, not all too sure, though I will need to grab a different kit of ram so that I'm not stuck on 16gb lul

current rig: Threadripper 2950X, custom water for cpu and gpu, MSI X399 meg creation, 32gb (4x8gb) viper steel 4133MHz running 3200MHz CL14 (for now), 1080TI FE, evga 1600 G2, phanteks eclipse P400A, 256gb SSD for boot and a 1tb HDD for games (temp), one 27" 1440p 75hz panel, two 24" 1080p 60hz panel and one 1200p 60hz panel

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On a roll lately it seems, just snagged a rampage 4 extreme with a 3930K and 4x8gb of ram for 180, not going to complain at that :P 

current rig: Threadripper 2950X, custom water for cpu and gpu, MSI X399 meg creation, 32gb (4x8gb) viper steel 4133MHz running 3200MHz CL14 (for now), 1080TI FE, evga 1600 G2, phanteks eclipse P400A, 256gb SSD for boot and a 1tb HDD for games (temp), one 27" 1440p 75hz panel, two 24" 1080p 60hz panel and one 1200p 60hz panel

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24 minutes ago, the pudding said:

On a roll lately it seems, just snagged a rampage 4 extreme with a 3930K and 4x8gb of ram for 180, not going to complain at that :P 

That's very reasonable for the price... Someone in my area was selling a 4960X with 4x8GB sticks and a old beast of a graphics card (R9 295 X2) for like $500. The board and CPU were cheaper than individual pricing. 

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17 minutes ago, CommanderAlex said:

That's very reasonable for the price... Someone in my area was selling a 4960X with 4x8GB sticks and a old beast of a graphics card (R9 295 X2) for like $500. The board and CPU were cheaper than individual pricing. 

Yeah, a rampage 4 extreme and a 3930K round these parts would cost about 200 quid by itself, so for those and the 32gb of ram for 190 shipped, I can't complain with that

current rig: Threadripper 2950X, custom water for cpu and gpu, MSI X399 meg creation, 32gb (4x8gb) viper steel 4133MHz running 3200MHz CL14 (for now), 1080TI FE, evga 1600 G2, phanteks eclipse P400A, 256gb SSD for boot and a 1tb HDD for games (temp), one 27" 1440p 75hz panel, two 24" 1080p 60hz panel and one 1200p 60hz panel

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