General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[CommanderAlex]

Figured I'll share my info. Core frequencies are on auto so only under load will they go all 4.4Ghz. 

[Zando_]

1 hour ago, bomerr said:

I have the 1660v3. Do you think a 6950x is worth the upgrade at the current price or should I wait till the price falls a bit more? 

What are they at right now? Broadwell-E is noticeably better than Haswell-E IPC wise (my 6950X at 4.2/3.5 hit the same single core as my 5960X running 4.5/3.7), and 10c/20t is still damn respectable. Given how expensive any newer HEDT is to get into, unless you need really high core counts (X99 does have high core count Xeons but they're locked) it's pretty damn solid. They don't run very hot either, I have mine with a mild 3.8Ghz OC right now on my CLC 280, it hits around 37C or so in games, I forget what under stress. Minimum I need to lock in 75fps in every game I've tried, at stock Far Cry 4 is the only game to not do this since it mostly uses one core - and to be fair it was only dropping to 73 here and there, but I just wanted that 75fps number locked . 

[bomerr]

24 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

What are they at right now? Broadwell-E is noticeably better than Haswell-E IPC wise (my 6950X at 4.2/3.5 hit the same single core as my 5960X running 4.5/3.7), and 10c/20t is still damn respectable. Given how expensive any newer HEDT is to get into, unless you need really high core counts (X99 does have high core count Xeons but they're locked) it's pretty damn solid. They don't run very hot either, I have mine with a mild 3.8Ghz OC right now on my CLC 280, it hits around 37C or so in games, I forget what under stress. Minimum I need to lock in 75fps in every game I've tried, at stock Far Cry 4 is the only game to not do this since it mostly uses one core - and to be fair it was only dropping to 73 here and there, but I just wanted that 75fps number locked . 

about 350 USD shipped. Fair price given the performance and I could sell my 1660v3 so about 225 net upgrade. But I could also wait and hope the price drops to 250 in 2021. 

I plan to buy a RTX 3080 and I don't think my CPU will bottleneck it. 

 

btw double check your voltages.  Default voltages can be way too high for SA or VCCIO. This kind fellow listed the max voltages. I've set them all to manual to avoid overshoot and used a low line (30-40% max) load calibration .

 

[Zando_]

3 minutes ago, bomerr said:

about 350 USD shipped. Fair price given the performance and I could sell my 1660v3 so about 225 net upgrade. But I could also wait and hope the price drops to 250 in 2021. 

I plan to buy a RTX 3080 and I don't think my CPU will bottleneck it. 

 

btw double check your voltages.  Default voltages can be way too high for SA or VCCIO. 

$350 sounds solid, mine was $500 or so. Voltages I usually set manually, I think I'm running 1.15v vCore, 1.1v RING, and 1.9v vInput rn, would need to double check when I get home. 

[bomerr]

2 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

$350 sounds solid, mine was $500 or so. Voltages I usually set manually, I think I'm running 1.15v vCore, 1.1v RING, and 1.9v vInput rn, would need to double check when I get home. 

when did you buy?

 

double check system agent and vcc voltages. 

[drevmcast]

On 10/6/2020 at 11:26 AM, bimmerman said:

So, SR2 build update. Goal has been to build a 4 gamer 1 tower kind of build for local lan parties once covid is over (so, never?). I've gotten virtualization and GPU passthrough to be working, but performance....is kinda dogshit due to lack of cores and stock-ish speeds of X58 xeons. Each VM is being allocated 4-6 threads total, with best performance coming from pinning 2-4 threads per CPU for hypervisor. Essentially, each VM is being given a hyperthreaded dual core virtual CPU, which isn't optimal, and really shows the age of the platform.

 

So, rethinking my platform. 

This is such a bummer for me, I really liked this idea . Hopefully you get it all sorted out. Let me know if you want to get rid of the sr2  .

[bimmerman]

I mean.....I did kinda buy 4x 1080ti and single slot waterblocks. It'd be a shame to not spin it up at least once!

 

Anybody here messed with adding pcie slots by cables plugged into M.2 slots? If so....TR3 may be back on the menu.

 

Still debating dual 2011v3 Xeon vs X299 (Asus Z10/X299 Sage mobos, each have 7 x8-16 pcie slots) vs Trx40. Latter has plenty of lanes for GPU but unlike the Xeon/i9 options, there are only 4 pcie slots so adding in USB or 10G or other cards isn't possible without janky adapters (see: M.2 -> pcie riser and slot). X299 and 10980xe may end up winning-- fast cores, 18 cores so enough for 4 vm and overhead, and plenty of pcie. Badly wish there was a Trx40 equivalent of the X299 WS Sage mobo.

[GrockleTD]

 

[CommanderAlex]

1 hour ago, GrockleTD said:

 

I saw the video come up in my sub feed last night and can't wait to watch!

[bimmerman]

uhhhhhhhh so that looks interesting to me....

 

EK parts for the BadDecisions build have started arriving! Also...may be getting the X79 variant of my quad-GPU dual supermicro board here next week with ram and procs and coolers. Yassss

[bomerr]

Get B-Die 3600CL16 or 3200CL14 for X99. Very fast and stable. 

 

 

[CommanderAlex]

After purchasing the last i9-10980XE at my local Micro Center this past Sunday, I finally decided to kick down the doors heading into the weekend by installing it. During the procedure I had to clean out the case (already a month since last cleaned) and swapped in the 10980XE. I'll probably keep the i7-9800X around as a souvenir of my first HEDT CPU ( an expensive souvenir as well!!) but ran some Cinebench R20 and this is what I got. 

[bimmerman]

Dang. How's it fare in R15?

 

This weekend my hope is to spin up the SR2 again to decide whether to sell it off in favor of a 10980xe solution. I found a great motherboard for X299 that has 7 full pcie slots, supposedly with solid iommu groups, without any of the quirkiness the SR2 has.

[CommanderAlex]

7 hours ago, bimmerman said:

Dang. How's it fare in R15?

 

This weekend my hope is to spin up the SR2 again to decide whether to sell it off in favor of a 10980xe solution. I found a great motherboard for X299 that has 7 full pcie slots, supposedly with solid iommu groups, without any of the quirkiness the SR2 has.

I'll try it out in a bit after waking up and having a cup of Joe. I see they updated the forum as mentioned in Announcements and looks sleek so far. 

[CommanderAlex]

I just completed a Cinebench R15 run as well and for multicore performance, it will run at 4.6Ghz and single core performance at 3.0Ghz. @bimmerman

[CommanderAlex]

Hey guys, I just swapped in a 10980xe into my MSI X299 Gaming Pro Carbon AC, replacing my i7-9800X. I didn't clear CMOS as I figured the computer should be fine. I decided to download AIDA64 Extreme (trial version) and test the CPU out. The second I hit start, the computer freezes and BSODs with "WHEA UNCORRECTABLE ERROR". I think I pin pointed down to the "Enhanced Turbo" feature in my BIOS's settings as when I change it from "Enabled" to "Auto", I don't get any crashes at all. Also when it's set to enabled, the cores would reach 4600mhz at around 1.242V. Enhanced Turbo is basically an easy overclock feature that you can set in BIOS I suppose right? Should I just keep this feature at the default "Auto"? 

[m4shroom]

Hi guys. I finally changed my ram sticks I bought gskill ripjawsz 4x4 gb 1866. I changed a couple of settings to use ram as 1866mhz. I m testing ram with aida64 memory stress test no error or anything however there is something that makes me wonder when I m testing only ram, cpu usage doesnt reach its full potential. I dont remember what was the cpu usage with previous ram sticks when just testing system memory. I tried to raise cpu voltage and qpi vtt voltage and nothing changed. Is it normal or what ? thx for any reply already. Have a nice night.

 

Edit: I had disabled virtuel memory since 16 gb was enough. I tried by enabling virtual memory it seems that is the issue. Thx anyway u all were  really helpfull since I first posted in this topic. I appreciate it. Especially biggest thx to @Vacras cuz he never got bored of helping me
 

[Vacras]

2 hours ago, m4shroom said:

Hi guys. I finally changed my ram sticks I bought gskill ripjawsz 4x4 gb 1866. I changed a couple of settings to use ram as 1866mhz. I m testing ram with aida64 memory stress test no error or anything however there is something that makes me wonder when I m testing only ram, cpu usage doesnt reach its full potential. I dont remember what was the cpu usage with previous ram sticks when just testing system memory. I tried to raise cpu voltage and qpi vtt voltage and nothing changed. Is it normal or what ? thx for any reply already. Have a nice night.

 

Edit: I had disabled virtuel memory since 16 gb was enough. I tried by enabling virtual memory it seems that is the issue. Thx anyway u all were  really helpfull since I first posted in this topic. I appreciate it. Especially biggest thx to @Vacras cuz he never got bored of helping me

 

Glad you are liking your system so much

 

As for me when I do System memory stress test my cpu is at 100%

[the pudding]

This might seem a very odd request, but does anyone know a place where one could get the xeon backplate for 1366? preferably within the UK but if it has to come from elsewhere I'll take it, I've got a thinkstation S20 here that I can't use the original cooler for because it doesn't have the xeon backplate thing so I'm having to stick to an intel stock cooler, which will be fine on the L5640 but i dunno how well that'll fare with a W3670 

[GrockleTD]

5 hours ago, the pudding said:

This might seem a very odd request, but does anyone know a place where one could get the xeon backplate for 1366? preferably within the UK but if it has to come from elsewhere I'll take it, I've got a thinkstation S20 here that I can't use the original cooler for because it doesn't have the xeon backplate thing so I'm having to stick to an intel stock cooler, which will be fine on the L5640 but i dunno how well that'll fare with a W3670 

I might have one, just need to remember to check.

[the pudding]

2 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

I might have one, just need to remember to check.

Ahh that'd be brill, no worries if not mind you, no rush either and all

[the pudding]

With that said, here's the system in question  

[Camo5]

Hi all, I've got a question for ya~

 

My current rig is still a chugger but does me well:

Gigabite x58a-ud3r rev1.0 with a xeon w3680 clocked at 3.8ghz all cores (2050 cinebench R20 score) paired to a GTX1070 and am looking to upgrade its ram a bit, I have 2 random sticks of 4gb 1066mhz and wanted to know if this combination is capable of using registered ECC ram (specifically 3x8gb modules) as I found some kits for $45, or if I'll be forced to run an unbuffered set (cheapest I could find was $90..)

[Pasi123]

3 hours ago, Camo5 said:

Hi all, I've got a question for ya~

 

My current rig is still a chugger but does me well:

Gigabite x58a-ud3r rev1.0 with a xeon w3680 clocked at 3.8ghz all cores (2050 cinebench R20 score) paired to a GTX1070 and am looking to upgrade its ram a bit, I have 2 random sticks of 4gb 1066mhz and wanted to know if this combination is capable of using registered ECC ram (specifically 3x8gb modules) as I found some kits for $45, or if I'll be forced to run an unbuffered set (cheapest I could find was $90..)

No, you can't use registered memory on that board.

[the pudding]

10 hours ago, Camo5 said:

Hi all, I've got a question for ya~

 

My current rig is still a chugger but does me well:

Gigabite x58a-ud3r rev1.0 with a xeon w3680 clocked at 3.8ghz all cores (2050 cinebench R20 score) paired to a GTX1070 and am looking to upgrade its ram a bit, I have 2 random sticks of 4gb 1066mhz and wanted to know if this combination is capable of using registered ECC ram (specifically 3x8gb modules) as I found some kits for $45, or if I'll be forced to run an unbuffered set (cheapest I could find was $90..)

Registered ECC ram has always been pretty much locked off of consumer chipsets and this is intentional so that it doesn't cut into their top shelf server market, this even applies to X58 based servers and workstations like the thinkstation S20 much to my distain since I run one of those as a server and I'd love to shove ECC reg in there, needs to be 5520 based for ECC reg iirc