iPhone 8 and X officially announced

[Juanitology]

iPhone 8 and X officially announced

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The jump from the iPhone 7 to the iPhone 8 is pretty significant, marking the first time since the iPhone 3GS was released back in 2009 that an iPhone model hasn’t received a spec-boosted “S” variant. Apple may be moving up numerically, but the new iPhone 8 models look to continue the same rough design the company has been using since 2014 from the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus.

 

 

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The long-awaited and extensively leaked special edition iPhone is finally upon us, and it’s called the iPhone X. This new super flagship phone from Apple features an edge-to-edge screen with a notch at the top to accommodate the front-facing camera and new Face ID sensors. Apple CEO Tim Cook teased the introduction of the the new device with the following words:

“Over the past decade, we've pushed forward with innovation after innovation, bringing us to this moment, when we can create devices that are far more intelligent, far more capable, and far more creative than ever before.”

 

iPhone X is the quintessential expression of Apple's Mantra based on Steve Jobs's quote during the launch of the original iPhone

 

"I skate to where the puck is going to be not to where it has been"

 

 

Availability

iPhone 8 and 8 Plus: Pre-orders starting September 15. Launches September 22nd.

iPhone X: Pre-orders starting October 27th. Launches November 3rd.

 

sources:

 https://live.theverge.com/apple-live-blog-2017-iphone-8-event/

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/9/12/16277764/apple-iphone-8-announced-features-price-release-date

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/12/16288806/apple-iphone-x-price-release-date-features-announced

https://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2017/

Edited September 13, 2017 by iamdarkyoshi
Fixed for night theme users

[PCGuy_5960]

The iPhone 8 is kinda meh, the iPhone X is way more interesting

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Any word on if they'll finally update the OS to match the hardware, or is it still intended to be a kid's toy?

[The Sloth]

i phone 8  sucks, look the the iphone X, 

official apple event, not Iverge https://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2017/

[ashypanda]

fuck me is someone at apple sick? they finally noticed phones can charge faster than 5W.

[Oshino Shinobu]

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Simply place the phone on a charging pad, and it’ll charge up (with the added bonus for iPhone users that wirelessly charging leaves the Lighting port free for wired headphones)

Funny, I can do that with my 5 year old phone too. It's called a headphone jack. 

 

I'm wondering where the fingerprint scanner is. Is it on the side? 

[TidaLWaveZ]

4 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Any word on if they'll finally update the OS to match the hardware, or is it still intended to be a kid's toy?

They would make the GUI customizable but they don't want to scare the users by providing the ability to change a setting.

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

I'm wondering where the fingerprint scanner is. Is it on the side? 

no fingerprint scanner, face unlock, they call it "face ID". 

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2 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

Funny, I can do that with my 5 year old phone too. It's called a headphone jack. 

 

I'm wondering where the fingerprint scanner is. Is it on the side? 

I had heard they were going to remove it because it didn't work with the OLED screen but that's just too insane, I can't imagine they would, even coming form the company that removed the headphone jack  

[Oshino Shinobu]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

face unlock, they call it "face ID" 

So no fingerprint scanner? You actually have to get the phone out and face it towards you to unlock it (obviously, you still have the code). Being able to just rest your finger on the scanner as you pull it from your pocket is by far the quickest and easiest way to unlock phones right now. I really hope other brands don't blindly follow Apple with stuff like this like they have with the headphone jack.

[Scruffy90]

Apples profits must be slipping for them to make the entire phone glass again. I wonder how many folks had iphone 4 flashbacks. 

 

Only good thing to come from this conference was the death of PMA wireless charging.

[iRileyx]

Finally a waterproof(rather, resistant) iPhone  

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6 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

official apple event, not Iverge https://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2017/

 

 wow. no, more like "your website doesn't support universally standard methods"

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7 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

They would make the GUI customizable but they don't want to scare the users by providing the ability to change a setting.

or with the concept of "files", where you can save things from one program and then open them in another

[Oshino Shinobu]

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I had heard they were going to remove it because it didn't work with the OLED screen but that's just too insane, I can't imagine they would, even coming form the company that removed the headphone jack  

Supposedly they were trying to get it to work under the front glass (think quite a lot of companies are trying that as bezel-less phones become more popular). Didn't think they would just outright get rid of it. I would have actually been impressed if they had chosen to make the Apple logo the fingerprint scanner, that would actually be pretty cool and go back to some of the good seemless designs that Apple used to be known for. 

 

Now they're just removing useful things and calling it courageous. Maybe if they'd be willing to let go of their money grabbing lightning connector and instead adopt USB C like everybody else, the removal of the headphone jack could be the future with everything being USB C. 

 

I'm glad that they've finally decided to go for wireless charging, but really they're a bit late to the party, especially considering it's going to be Apple pricing, making the S8+ even more appealing. 

[mynameisjuan]

5 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

So no fingerprint scanner? You actually have to get the phone out and face it towards you to unlock it (obviously, you still have the code). Being able to just rest your finger on the scanner as you pull it from your pocket is by far the quickest and easiest way to unlock phones right now. I really hope other brands don't blindly follow Apple with stuff like this like they have with the headphone jack.

Best part is it didnt work right off in the demo...hhahaha

 

But on my S8+ the iris scanner is amazing and work great and actually is just as fast as the FP reader. So when on a table you can just lift up and its unlocked. But my pupils tend to dilate extremely easily and at times you cannot see my iris so it can be picky but this is facial recognition on the X and not iris.  

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1 minute ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

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Now they're just removing useful things and calling it courageous. Maybe if they'd be willing to let go of their money grabbing lightning connector and instead adopt USB C like everybody else, the removal of the headphone jack could be the future with everything being USB C. 

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On that topic, I had heard they actually were going to switch to USB-C, so if that's true, huge points in my book for getting over themselves and just doing what's right.

[PCGuy_5960]

13 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Any word on if they'll finally update the OS to match the hardware, or is it still intended to be a kid's toy?

100% agree, it doesn't hurt to add more customization options

[mynameisjuan]

Also glad apple only managed 1,000,000 to 1 contrast ratio an OLED.

 

Maybe next year they will catch up to infinity to 1 like every other OLED panel.

[pit5000]

animojis!!!! i can't wait to send people a poop emoji talking dirty...

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Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

100% agree, it doesn't hurt to add more customization options

It's interesting that's the first thing everyone thinks of when they read this but tbh that was the last thing on my mind.... the last item on a long list of things they need to do.

[Cheezdoodlez]

10 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I had heard they were going to remove it because it didn't work with the OLED screen but that's just too insane, I can't imagine they would, even coming form the company that removed the headphone jack  

Looks like they did just that. You have to you use your face now..  

[captain cactus]

So the 8 is basically a 6s with a glass back that you can't see because you'll want to put a case on it, and the X is the same as an 8 (so a 6s) but with a bigger screen and because Apple couldn't make a fingerprint scanner under a screen they went with a facial scanner.

 

And they want to charge $1000 for that?

 

 

So basically get the 6s for $450 and you're good to go.

[Oshino Shinobu]

2 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

On that topic, I had heard they actually were going to switch to USB-C, so if that's true, huge points in my book for getting over themselves and just doing what's right.

I thought it was a USB C connector when I was looking through the pictures, but alas, a search for "USB" shows nothing and "lightning" comes up a number of times. If they had gone with USB C I would have been willing to give them a pass on pretty much everything else as it would show they are actually looking towards the future and not just trying to get money from third parties when they make things using the lightning connector. I hope the iPhone X does use USB C, even though it won't make me want one, it would at least restore a little bit of faith in Apple. 

 

3 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

Best part is it didnt work right off in the demo...hhahaha

 

But on my S8+ the iris scanner is amazing and work great and actually is just as fast as the FP reader. So when on a table you can just lift up and its unlocked. But my pupils tend to dilate extremely easily and at times you cannot see my iris so it can be picky but this is facial recognition and not iris.  

How does it work in low/no light settings?

 

I just kind of hate facial recognition stuff, it tends to suck and even when it is good, there's still loads of situations where it doesn't work. I was doing some work on my house recently that involved a lot of flying bits of rubble, so I had full face protection on. Fingerprint scanner works fine but face recognition wouldn't work without taking everything off. I get having the option of both, but getting rid of one and only give you one option is stupid. 

[captain_to_fire]

Source: Apple's live stream (requires Safari or Microsoft Edge because those two support HTTP Live Streaming, Chrome and others don't )

 

We'll see if the big leaks are true and not fake news

The stream begins with a chill music playlist while showing the tour of the new Steve Jobs Theater. Then followed by Steve Job's last words before passing away. In the end, Steve Jobs is still one of the world's best salesman in my opinion. Also, @LinusTech changed his profile picture back to that Steve Jobs-like picture. You can watch Linus and Edzel's commentary on Twitch that I can't watch live while I'm also watching Apple's live event, maybe later but hey, I wish Linus and his team will do more live commentary Twitch streams for other product launches. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/174248731

 

iPhone 8 and iPhone 8+

• All glass
• Comes in gold, silver and space gray
• 7000 series aluminum
• Glass design reinforced by steel
• Retina HD Display (5.5" and 4.7")
• Stereo Speakers that are 25% louder than iPhone 7 with deeper bass
• Powered by A11 Bionic chip: 64 bit hexacore processor; two high performance cores and four power efficient cores
• GPU 30% faster than A10 Fusion
• ISP-faster autofocus, hardware multiband noise reduction
• Still with Touch ID (Yay!)
• 12 MP camera with OIS, new color filter and deeper pixels with new sensor
• 240 fps slow motion video at 1080p, 4K at 60 fps
• iPhone 8+, f/1.8 wide angle + OIS and f/2.8 telephoto cameras without OIS
• iPhone 8+ has portrait lighting to change lighting effects while in Portrait mode 
• Cameras are calibrated for AR with gyroscope and accelerometer
• Bluetooth 5.0 and LTE-Advanced
• Now comes with Qi wireless charging but no PMA (Just like Android phones before)
• 64 and 256 GB for both the iPhone 8 and 8+. iPhone 8 starts at $699 and the 8+ starts at $799.
• Pre-order at September 15, Available at the 22nd 

 

iPhone X (aka Apple made an Android phone)

• Uses the same A11 Bionic SoC as the iPhone 8 and 8+ (two high performance cores and four power efficient cores)
• Edge to edge glass display without a home button
• Comes in either space gray or silver
• Super Retina Display (aka AMOLED), 5.8" 2435 x 1125 resolution, 458 ppi
• HDR 10 and Dolby vision 
• million to one contrast ratio
• True tone display
• Tap to wake (just like LG G3 and beyond, good thing they didn't include Knock Code)
• Swipe up to go to home screen, no more home button (just like the Palm Pre/HP Touch Pad running webOS)
• Swipe up and stop to bring up app switcher, swipe from the bottom to scroll through running apps, swipe from the top right to bring up control center (just like Android)
• Press side button to trigger Siri
• Unlocking via Face ID
• Face ID: True depth camera system: IR camera, flood illuminator, dot projector
• A11 Bionic neural engine processes machine learning algorithms for Face ID
• All face data is stored locally in the Secure Enclave co-processor just like Touch ID
• Face ID works with Apple Pay and third party apps 
• Animoji (just like AOL superbuddy icons) using the depth sensing camera. Animated poop emoji anyone? 
• Dual 12 MP cameras, f/1.8 and f/2.4 with dual optical image stabilization (just like the Note 8) and a new sensor with deeper pixels
• Quad LED true tone flash
• Supports the same Portrait lighting just like the 8+
• Portrait mode and portrait lighting on the selfie camera
• Lasts two hours battery life than the iPhone 7
• Bluetooth 5.0, Qi wireless charging 
• same water and dust resistance as the iPhone 8/8+
• Available in 64 and 256 GB, price starts at $999 (ouch)
• Pre order starts in October 27
• Ships in November 3

Apple Watch series 3

• Tim Cook claims that the Apple Watch is the number 1 watch in the world, surpassing Rolex
• Apple Heart Study - in partnership with Stanford University School of Medicine to alert users in the even they get an atrial fibrilation.
• With built in cellular, no phone needed 
• Can receive calls and uses the same number as the iPhone
• Coming next month, Apple Music will work on the Apple Watch 
• Dual core processor up to 70% more performance*
• W2 chip for more power efficient Bluetooth and WiFi
• With altimeter for climbing 
• The display is the antenna for LTE and UMTS
• with built in electronic SIM 
• Same size as the series 2 apple watch but slightly thicker 
• Comes with gold, silver, and space gray bands and others
• Same water resistance as the series 2 apple watch
• With cellular at $399, w/o cellular at $329 
• Orders starts at the 15th of September and will be available at the 22nd of September

Apple TV 4K

• Apple TV received an Emmy award
• 4K HDR video playback (although that demo, Apple just cranked up the saturation)
• HDR 10 and Dolby vision
• A10X chip in the iPad Pro, 2x CPU, 4x GPU
• runs tvOS
• 4K content on iTunes same as HD, exisiting purchased movies will be upgrade to 4K for free
• Starts at $179

 

All I can say with that Face ID, the cops would love that when they're arresting someone. The price of the iPhone X is way too expensive. If I was in need of a new iPhone I'd pick the 8+ even though it's more of a 7s+ to be honest because I'm not yet convince with that Face ID. Personally, I still prefer Touch ID.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 12, 2017 by hey_yo_