Should I just learn Algebra 1 basics or should I learn it with more detail?

[AniJan]

I want to learn things like Algebra 1 ahead of time because I'm dumb.

But a question was raised in my head:

Should I just learn the basics of Algebra 1 for now or should I do the basics and go into the specifics of Algebra 1? which is the best choice?

"you choose, don't ask us."

i'm a very anxious person who needs guidance. i'm a mere child, i do not know any better.

"ask your teacher"

she only helps with things inside our unit.

@Dash Lambda

 

 

[Dash Lambda]

If you want to learn a topic in math, just dive in.

As for actually doing it -When I wanted to learn Calc 1 ahead of time, I asked for the ISBN for the textbook my school uses and bought it, then I just went through the book. I'd suggest trying that.

[AniJan]

Just now, Dash Lambda said:

If you want to learn a topic in math, just dive in.

As for actually doing it -When I wanted to learn Calc 1 ahead of time, I asked for the ISBN for the textbook my school uses and bought it, then I just went through the book. I'd suggest trying that.

don't do just the basics then?

can i use khan academy?

[babadoctor]

11 minutes ago, AniJan said:

don't do just the basics then?

can i use khan academy?

go ahead use khan academy

 

although be warned that if you go ahead your teachers may get mad or mark you down for not using their way of solving a problem

(yes, teachers at my school do this)

[Dash Lambda]

39 minutes ago, AniJan said:

Don't do just the basics then?

Can I use Khan Academy?

-Correct.

-If they're a comprehensive resource, then sure. I haven't used them before, really, but I've heard they're very good.

 

28 minutes ago, babadoctor said:

Although be warned that if you go ahead your teachers may get mad or mark you down for not using their way of solving a problem.

(Yes, teachers at my school do this.)

I was banned from bringing my aforementioned Calc book into Precalc, apparently because I was missing 'necessary instruction', which she could tell despite the fact that my grades were fine.

To be fair, though, that can be a somewhat justified measure if the more 'advanced' methods the student is learning on their own are just shortcuts that don't require fundamental understanding.

[AniJan]

Just now, Dash Lambda said:

-Correct.

-If they're a comprehensive resource, then sure. I haven't used them before, really, but I've heard they're very good.

 

I was banned from bringing my aforementioned Calc book into Precalc, apparently because I was missing 'necessary instruction', which she could tell despite the fact that my grades were fine.

To be fair, though, that can be a somewhat justified measure if the more 'advanced' methods the student is learning on their own are just shortcuts that don't require fundamental understanding.

Wouldn't just the basics be enough since you can learn the specifics later on in high school?

[GDRRiley]

12 minutes ago, AniJan said:

Wouldn't just the basics be enough since you can learn the specifics later on in high school?

na you should in middle school. 

[AniJan]

Just now, Dash Lambda said:

-Correct.

-If they're a comprehensive resource, then sure. I haven't used them before, really, but I've heard they're very good.

 

I was banned from bringing my aforementioned Calc book into Precalc, apparently because I was missing 'necessary instruction', which she could tell despite the fact that my grades were fine.

To be fair, though, that can be a somewhat justified measure if the more 'advanced' methods the student is learning on their own are just shortcuts that don't require fundamental understanding.

 

Just now, GDRRiley said:

na you should in middle school. 

Well. The problem is, or so I think, I've been using Khan Academy for 3 weeks now taking notes. Khan Academy is great and all, but they don't cover some specifics in Algebra I. If I were to look at my College Algebra book to find some missing specifics, it'd be too much of a hassle and it'll mess up my organization of notes.

[TheKDub]

2 hours ago, AniJan said:

I want to learn things like Algebra 1 ahead of time because I'm dumb.

But a question was raised in my head:

Should I just learn the basics of Algebra 1 for now or should I do the basics and go into the specifics of Algebra 1? which is the best choice?

"you choose, don't ask us."

i'm a very anxious person who needs guidance. i'm a mere child, i do not know any better.

"ask your teacher"

she only helps with things inside our unit.

@Dash Lambda

 

 

 

Go for it. KhanAcademy has some great stuff. I've been using it over the summer to re-learn Algebra II and Geometry, as well as some Trigonometry.

[Dash Lambda]

36 minutes ago, AniJan said:

-snip-

It's all a question of if you want to learn or not.

Missing parts is why I recommend using a textbook, even if just as supplement. You could, say, go through the practice problems and look through the chapter when you don't know how to solve one, in order to fill Khan Academy's gaps.

 

I don't know how to help you with your notes -The few notes I do take are about as organized as a shopping bag full of unbound cables.

[arnavvr]

I'm a freshman in High School doing Algebra 1 and can tell you this, you do NOT want to take this course in 9th grade. See if your school offers an accelerated math class for you to take Algebra 1 in 8th grade. Then do Geometry over the summer and do Algebra 2 freshman year. 

[AniJan]

Just now, arnavvr said:

I'm a freshman in High School doing Algebra 1 and can tell you this, you do NOT want to take this course in 9th grade. See if your school offers an accelerated math class for you to take Algebra 1 in 8th grade. Then do Geometry over the summer and do Algebra 2 freshman year. 

er why? is it bad? too easy? waste of time?

[arnavvr]

3 minutes ago, AniJan said:

er why? 

Because you wouldn't be able to take Calculus by 12th grade. 

[AniJan]

Just now, arnavvr said:

Because you wouldn't be able to take Calculus by 12th grade. 

WUT.

 

[vanished]

idk what you mean by basics... I feel like we could get that out of the way right here and now  

 

like, x + 5 = 14

subtract 5 from both sides

x = 9

 

2x = 7

divide both sides by 2

x = 3.5

 

just, do the same thing to both sides until you get your variable = something

[AniJan]

Just now, Ryan_Vickers said:

idk what you mean by basics... I feel like we could get that out of the way right here and now  

 

like, x + 5 = 14

subtract 5 from both sides

x = 9

 

2x = 7

divide both sides by 2

x = 3.5

 

just, do the same thing to both sides until you get your variable = something

i meant basic stuff of ALL of algebra 1.

[Dash Lambda]

1 hour ago, arnavvr said:

Because you wouldn't be able to take Calculus by 12th grade. 

9^th: Algebra 1

10^th: Algebra 2

11^th: Precalculus

12^th: Calculus

 

Is there something I'm missing?

[arnavvr]

33 minutes ago, Dash Lambda said:

9^th: Algebra 1

10^th: Algebra 2

11^th: Precalculus

12^th: Calculus

 

Is there something I'm missing?

9th:Algebra 1

10th:Geometry 

11th:Algebra 2

12th:Pre-Calculus

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

Just make sure you're not looking into Linear Algebra. That's university stuff and it's hell. 

[Teddy07]

 

29 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Just make sure you're not looking into Linear Algebra. That's university stuff and it's hell. 

You serious?

I am a total math noob now but I might consider picking it in 2 years as a minor subject. I would only have to pass two exams and I think it would help me in my Master. But I just started with my Bachelor

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

2 minutes ago, Teddy07 said:

 

You serious?

I am a total math noob now but I might consider picking it in 2 years as a minor subject. I would only have to pass two exams and I think it would help me in my Master. But I just started with my Bachelor

There's a lot of vector math and matrices. It's a pretty big departure from your usual calculus. Same goes for discrete mathematics. 

[Dash Lambda]

40 minutes ago, arnavvr said:

9^th: Algebra 1

10^th: Geometry 

11^th: Algebra 2

12^th: Pre-Calculus

38 minutes ago, wrathoftheturkey said:

Geometry.

I've never taken a geometry class. Isn't that effectively covered in Algebra?

[AniJan]

OK. So:

Should I go back and learn the specifics from the start to the current point?

or

Finish all of the algebra basics and learn the specifics after.

[Clanscorpia]

Here they do Algebra 1 in 9th, Algebra 2 in 10th (Academic - Im in Canada) and then Precalc and then calc. You dont really get to choose your classes before grade 11, just the course which is Academic math

[Clanscorpia]

1 minute ago, AniJan said:

OK. So:

Should I go back and learn the specifics from the start to the current point?

or

Finish all of the algebra basics and learn the specifics after.

Just start with the basics, then expand. I did what Dash suggested and learned the basics on Khan Academy then used my moms calc book for more info