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9 hours ago, SaladinSVK said:

Hello everyone , 

I planned to build new pc at the end of this year or beginning of 2018 , with i7 7700k and GTX 1080 ....but right now  MSI GTX 1080 Gaming+ is on sale at nearby shop for 560 eur (down from 610) 

Would it be good idea to buy it right now into my pc with i5 4690k and just add it later to new build or just wait and buy it all at once ? also considering my current gpu is gtx 970 and i use 1440p monitor , i should see some improvements even with i5 ...or am i mistaken ?

 

 

 i would wait to be honest lol 560€ isnt that cheap considering recently i found a strix 1080 11gbps at 500€. And that is really good despite the mining craze thats either floating around or not.

 

also coffee lake recently if not just got announced by intel id wait for those too. 6 core is a start at least :) rather than never.

Hello everyone , 

I planned to build new pc at the end of this year or beginning of 2018 , with i7 7700k and GTX 1080 ....but right now  MSI GTX 1080 Gaming+ is on sale at nearby shop for 560 eur (down from 610) 

Would it be good idea to buy it right now into my pc with i5 4690k and just add it later to new build or just wait and buy it all at once ? also considering my current gpu is gtx 970 and i use 1440p monitor , i should see some improvements even with i5 ...or am i mistaken ?

 

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I would wait, Coffee lake is just around the corner and 1080Ti prices might (very heavy emphasis on might) come down a bit by then and you could squeeze in one of those instead of a regular 1080

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5 minutes ago, SaladinSVK said:

Hello everyone , 

I planned to build new pc at the end of this year or beginning of 2018 , with i7 7700k and GTX 1080 ....but right now  MSI GTX 1080 Gaming+ is on sale at nearby shop for 560 eur (down from 610) 

Would it be good idea to buy it right now into my pc with i5 4690k and just add it later to new build or just wait and buy it all at once ? also considering my current gpu is gtx 970 and i use 1440p monitor , i should see some improvements even with i5 ...or am i mistaken ?

 

On PCPartpicker, it's showing me prices of ~432 EUR (515 USD).

Somewhere I heard that there was a vram shortage - which may cause another GPU cost-spike - less extreme but affecting all cards rather than mid end. (though can't verify validity because I forgot the source).

 

As always - I'd recommend waiting. RAM prices are still inflated and the GPU market has seen better days. As for the CPU market - it's doing well. Your current GPU should be fine for a couple more years unless you want to be on the bleeding edge - and then you wouldn't care about the money.

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11 minutes ago, Lurick said:

1080Ti prices might

How so? There aren't any new launches and Nvidia is clearly not afraid of Vega.

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10 minutes ago, Lurick said:

I would wait, Coffee lake is just around the corner and 1080Ti prices might (very heavy emphasis on might) come down a bit by then and you could squeeze in one of those instead of a regular 1080

1080 ti prices havent really gotten that high up, some of them stayed at the price point. 2 months ago when i upgraded gpu i also planned on going for a 1080 for 550€, but then i saw the aorus gtx 1080 ti being only 750€ so i got that deal. Yeah the 1080 ti really have a comparable price/performance ratio like a 1080.

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Just now, DeadEyePsycho said:

How so? There aren't any new launches and Nvidia is clearly not afraid of Vega.

That's why I said might. Never know what the end of the year could bring, doubtful prices will budge down but you never know.

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1 minute ago, Lurick said:

That's why I said might. Never know what the end of the year could bring, doubtful prices will budge down but you never know.

if your current system will allow getting good performance out the gpu you can go for it, but from what i've heard will be Vega available at normal MSRP approximately in october which in theory should bring down 1080 price by 50€ if we're lucky, but yeah currently its just speculation

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9 minutes ago, Lurick said:

That's why I said might. Never know what the end of the year could bring, doubtful prices will budge down but you never know.

Please don't speculate like that, it causes people to actually take it as fact.

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Something I hadn't thought about until somebody mentioned the 1080TI is that the 11xx series may be released Q1 2018

@DeadEyePsycho Talk about speculating... :)

   

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This is just about as "Ballpark" as you can get. There are hundreds of factors, but It's been 460 days since their last series' release. I'd say a new release in less than 200 days time.

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Buy the GPU.


Don't waste money on a CPU upgrade unless you're running a high refresh rate monitor, and even then getting really fast RAM is more beneficial for pushing those higher frames.

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actually i have high refresh rate monitor , Asus ROG Swift.

Thanks for your opinions so far.

I can play my games no problem ..WoW , Overwatch  over 100 fps , Skyrim , witcher 3 stable 60 fps ( with some locations where it goes below 60 ) even with my good old 970 

So maybe i should realy just be patient and wait for something better ( and not wait 1 1/2 year like with that said gtx 970  ) 

It is just that when i saw that sale it made me impatient ...

i will wait for some more of your opinions and will see

 

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Wait for Coffe Lake or buy Ryzen and for GPU I would wait and see if AMDs stock issue is resolved and prices for GTX and Radeon decrease hopefully after. :3

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6 hours ago, SaladinSVK said:

actually i have high refresh rate monitor , Asus ROG Swift.

Thanks for your opinions so far.

I can play my games no problem ..WoW , Overwatch  over 100 fps , Skyrim , witcher 3 stable 60 fps ( with some locations where it goes below 60 ) even with my good old 970 

So maybe i should realy just be patient and wait for something better ( and not wait 1 1/2 year like with that said gtx 970  ) 

It is just that when i saw that sale it made me impatient ...

i will wait for some more of your opinions and will see

 

 

Most games should still manage high framerates though.  

 

 

Basically a CPU upgrade is only noticeably beneficial for gaming if you have a potato-tier CPU or you want to push as much FPS as humanly possible.

 

For most people a better GPU is always the better choice.


At a GTX 970 level of performance I think you have another year or two of games playing really well, especially if you're willing to tweak visual quality to make it run smooth.  That said, there's also lots of great upgrade options right now between the GTX 1070 or Vega56. (Or better)

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, SaladinSVK said:

Hello everyone , 

I planned to build new pc at the end of this year or beginning of 2018 , with i7 7700k and GTX 1080 ....but right now  MSI GTX 1080 Gaming+ is on sale at nearby shop for 560 eur (down from 610) 

Would it be good idea to buy it right now into my pc with i5 4690k and just add it later to new build or just wait and buy it all at once ? also considering my current gpu is gtx 970 and i use 1440p monitor , i should see some improvements even with i5 ...or am i mistaken ?

 

 

 i would wait to be honest lol 560€ isnt that cheap considering recently i found a strix 1080 11gbps at 500€. And that is really good despite the mining craze thats either floating around or not.

 

also coffee lake recently if not just got announced by intel id wait for those too. 6 core is a start at least :) rather than never.

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Ok thank you all , i will wait for new cpus and gpus and buy them while they are fresh , this time i will go all in and buy GTX xx80 and new i7 .

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