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2 minutes ago, H0R53 said:

Where's my name?

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18 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Why? Because they are making money and you can't play games?

No, because they artificially inflated the market so people who actually worked hard for their money can't buy a GPU with the money they earned, instead of the lazy assholes with crazy 1070 mining rigs who didn't earn a dime of their money.

17 minutes ago, toastythomas said:

I don't know if this is all that unpopular, but miners and gamers should be treated the same by manufacturers. They are purchasing the cards for their own personal use.

Yes, BUT, the miners are not using them for their INTENDED purpose, therefore the warranty (depending on the warranty) is usually automatically void. Like using a hammer to do a saw's work, or using a lamp as a baseball bat. The manufacturer of the lamp is gonna be like "wtf, we're not replacing that"

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11 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

What they do with them, sure. The fact I can't get a GPU for anything less than +25% MSRP because of them? Just try and tell me that's not my business.

supply and demand

dont blame the customers they are only purchasing an item

11 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

So you must be one of those miners than?

actually I dont mine

I use websites and programs to find my limited items if I really want them

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Aren't amd and nvidia prepping mining cards? This just looks like a push for miners to buy those cards. 

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Just now, Pohernori said:

Aren't amd and nvidia prepping mining cards? This just looks like a push for miners to buy those cards. 

Nothing really special about them though. 

 

Removing display connectors isn't hard, kek. 

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2 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Nothing really special about them though. 

 

Removing display connectors isn't hard, kek. 

 

Its not that they are special, they will be the cards without "warranty void if mining" stickers

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10 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Didn't you know? only pretty names make it to SS's

I only see Dan C and Dildor. The rest are not pretty enough of names.

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12 minutes ago, H0R53 said:

Yes, BUT, the miners are not using them for their INTENDED purpose, therefore the warranty (depending on the warranty) is usually automatically void. Like using a hammer to do a saw's work, or using a lamp as a baseball bat. The manufacturer of the lamp is gonna be like "wtf, we're not replacing that"

 

Oh yeah.... I completely agree with you here. Miners should not be able to use the manufacturer's warranty.

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1 minute ago, Pohernori said:

 

Its not that they are special, they will be the cards without "warranty void if mining" stickers

ahh. Folding would be alright though?

1 minute ago, dexT said:

I only see Dan C and Dildor. The rest are not pretty enough of names.

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1 minute ago, DildorTheDecent said:

ahh. Folding would be alright though?

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No idea how they would decide that

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A GPU is a graphics processing unit. They are not solely designed and built for gaming, only. They are compute devices. How the owner of the device chooses to use it is their own choice. 

 

Saying cards used for mining should be bricked (OP's suggestion) or have their warranty's voided is just pure ignorance and lack of understanding of crypto mining. Many miners undervolt and tweak the power settings so they use less power and it puts less strain on the cards. My 1070 runs at 60% power limit while mining so it's only consuming 90w instead of 150w and runs the core at a much lower clock vs stock. 

 

Yes, there is a problem with supply and it sucks for the pure gamers who can't get their hands on new cards, but doing this isn't going to solve that problem - it's only going to piss people off. 

 

How could they even tell if a card has been used for mining anyways? 

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3 minutes ago, MEC-777 said:

A GPU is a graphics processing unit. They are not solely designed and built for gaming, only. They are compute devices. How the owner of the device chooses to use it is their own choice. 

 

Saying cards used for mining should be bricked or have their warranty's voided is just pure ignorance and lack of understanding of crypto mining. Many miners undervolt and tweak the power settings so they use less power and it puts less strain on the cards. 

 

Yes, there is a problem with supply and it sucks for the pure gamers who can't get their hands on new cards, but doing this isn't going to solve that problem - it's only going to piss people off. 

 

How could they even tell if a card has been used for mining anyways? 

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32 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

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1 hour ago, GoodBytes said:

You know, Nvidia/AMD and graphics card manufacture can just all boost manufacturing allowing both gamer and miners to get their cards. Why would one say no to money?

Didn't that really screw AMD over with the 200 series? They overproduced and then when Litecoin mining crashed all that extra inventory of Hawaii cards got sold dirt cheap. Getting an R9 290 back then for $200 to $230 was unreal. Back in 2014 that was a 1070/1080 equivalent.

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1 hour ago, GoodBytes said:

You know, Nvidia/AMD and graphics card manufacture can just all boost manufacturing allowing both gamer and miners to get their cards. Why would one say no to money?

Because of the uncertainty of the ongoing demand I suppose? It's incredibly hard to predict if the demand from miners will be there even just 6 months from now.

 

Too many variables to take into consideration. Mining difficulty changes, possible asics, crypto crashing (which in itself has lots of variables, investors getting bored, bad news, etc). 

 

I assume if AMD/Nvidia wanted to up production, they would have to contract fabs and other factories.  Then the actual production increase would probably take place quite a while after. It would be a huge blow if by then the miner hype has gone down. Good for us as we'll have cheap cards I suppose.

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28 minutes ago, pas008 said:

supply and demand

dont blame the customers they are only purchasing an item

Not true, they're purchasing multiple items at a time. Who else's fault is it? Retailers only have limited shelve space and when these customers are literally clearing out entire stores of stock its them to blame for pushing prices up.

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1 hour ago, mynameisjuan said:

First its inflating GPU prices for people who actually want to buy a GPU to game or for content creation.

 

Second is the cards are dying earlier than normal and increasing RMAs. Every RMA cost a company money then they have to increase cost to make up for it. 

 

This hurts everyone but the miners themselves. All this for fake currency that is wasting power

So annoying. Generating money for doing absolutely nothing useful.

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Just now, Master Disaster said:

Not true, they're purchasing multiple items at a time. Who else's fault is it? Retailers only have limited shelve space and when these customers are literally clearing out entire stores of stock its them to blame for pushing prices up.

doesnt matter

still

supply and demand

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7 minutes ago, MEC-777 said:

They are not solely designed and built for gaming, only.

Ugh....yeah they are. Its the programs that a tweaked to make use of the GPUs resources for a different task. Same with workstation GPUS that are ment to take advantage of floating points and as a result dont work as well for gaming. 

 

Hell there are cards developed to purely mine and ABSOLUTELY WRECK GPUS. You know why? Because thats what they were designed to do and designed to run 24/7.

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1 minute ago, mynameisjuan said:

Ugh....yeah they are. Its the programs that a tweaked to make use of the GPUs resources for a different task. Same with workstation GPUS that are ment to take advantage of floating points and as a result dont work as well for gaming. 

 

Hell there are cards developed to purely mine and ABSOLUTELY WRECK GPUS. You know why? Because thats what they were designed to do and designed to run 24/7.

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4 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

Not true, they're purchasing multiple items at a time. Who else's fault is it? Retailers only have limited shelve space and when these customers are literally clearing out entire stores of stock its them to blame for pushing prices up.

What you have too think about is each side of the equation can't directly effect the other. In other words, a guy buying 100 cards at once only affects the demand side, the manufacturer/retailers are the ones that can effect the supply side. There have been quite a few good examples of this over time, look at de beers with the diamond trade for instance.  They purposefully and artificially increased the value of diamonds for so long many people still believe they have some high intrinsic value. People eventually accept higher prices when they get used to it, if the mining craze goes on long enough, even after demand has fallen the likes of AMD and Nvidia could easily increase their profit margin by charging higher prices. 

 

I'm not saying they will do this, or they have plans to, just that they could. 

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4 minutes ago, pas008 said:

no

movie and video playback

NVIDIA CUDA™ Technology unlocks the power of the GPU's processor cores to accelerate the most demanding tasks such as video transcoding, physics simulation, ray tracing, and more.

Again software vs hardware....know the difference

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