The right to be forgotten

[grimreeper132]

The UK government is planning to implement a new law which means that you will be able to communicate with a company that you want them to delete certain data they have of yours.

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Proposals included in the bill will:

• make it simpler for people to withdraw consent for their personal data to be used
• let people ask for data to be deleted
• require firms to obtain "explicit" consent when they process sensitive personal data
• expand personal data to include IP addresses, DNA and small text files known as cookies
• let people get hold of the information organisations hold on them much more freely
• make re-identifying people from anonymised or pseudonymised data a criminal offence

This means that posts etc. you will be able to be delete certain posts etc. which you have made in the past. This is good as it means that if you made a comment in the past you don't stand by now or similar it means you can delete it meaning people won't see you once thought that, issues is though is what can you remove as it may mean that you could remove something important etc. like Theresa May deleting one of her old posts etc. (or in a way like trump doing it if ever spreads to America) which are in a way shouldn't be deleted as they are public records and insights into what they are thinking.

This law could also increase the fines which companies get when data is leaked 

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In the UK firms that suffer a serious data breach could be fined up to £17m or 4% of global turnover.

The current maximum fine firms can suffer for breaking data protection laws is £500,000.

which makes a bigger deterrent for companies to actually protect the data, as although to most people £500,000 is a hell of a lot of money to companies like google it's not.

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But small companies were largely in the dark about what the proposed law would mean for them, warned Mike Cherry, national chairman at the Federation of Small Businesses.

"They simply aren't aware of what they will need to do, which creates a real risk of companies inadvertently facing fines," he said.

And as for members of the public, many find it "almost impossible" to understand the complex ways in which firms handle their data, according to computer security researcher Steven Murdoch at University College London.

There is still issues and much to be desired with this law though, as well that quote sums it all up

 

I think this is kinda contradictory to the governments stance on encryption considering they are against privacy there but for it here. The law like many laws is still unclear of what it could do though, as it could mean that something that shouldn't be deleted might be, so it's a difficult one at times, as in some cases this is great in others less so. 

 

 

SOURCE- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40826062

[Sauron]

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make re-identifying people from anonymised or pseudonymised data a criminal offence

This would actually be really good, but it goes against everything they're trying to promote on the encryption front...

[Misanthrope]

In the UK you say? Does this mean I have the right to be forgotten from all of the government snooping databases? Or is this just a crappy loophole to protect high profile rich guys from embarrassment?

[Bouzoo]

Now wait a minute.

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Proposals included in the bill will:

• expand personal data to include IP addresses, DNA and small text files known as cookies

Does this mean the companies will store above mentioned things or will you be able to request that they delete that? Because it sounds to me like the former and that is not a good thing. 

 

Also DNS?

[grimreeper132]

Just now, Sauron said:

This would actually be really good, but it goes against everything they're trying to promote on the encryption front...

oh in some cases yea it's great and I'm surprised our government is even thinking about this but in others less so, but on the whole I think it's not to bad

 

1 minute ago, Misanthrope said:

In the UK you say? Does this mean I have the right to be forgotten from all of the government snooping databases? Or is this just a crappy loophole to protect high profile rich guys from embarrassment?

It's hard to say, as I said it's unclear in places, as it might be your able to literally disappear from the internet by deleting everything about you, or something much less extreme.

[grimreeper132]

1 minute ago, Bouzoo said:

Now wait a minute.

 

There always has to be a real endgame, especially in the UK. Also DNS?

no some companies store your DNA data, ancestor.com for example, and yea their end game is a tad unclear as I am not sure if this is being done just to please the EU (as they are also trying to implement something similar) or if this is being done because they generally believe in privacy (but as I said they are against encryption so I am doubtful on this one)

[imreloadin]

15 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

In the UK you say? Does this mean I have the right to be forgotten from all of the government snooping databases? Or is this just a crappy loophole to protect high profile rich guys from embarrassment?

Come on now you know these laws never apply to the G-Men. You can only request to be removed from databases of company's, but only after the data transfer to GCHQ is completed of course

[christianled59]

I thought the US had a recent law made where anything the president publicly says is permanently and publicly documented somewhere. So it doesn't matter if a president deletes tweets.

[grimreeper132]

Just now, christianled59 said:

I thought the US had a recent law made where anything the president publicly says is permanently and publicly documented somewhere. So it doesn't matter if a president deletes tweets.

Aye possibly I haven't kept up with the stupidity of trump, and it was more an example of what could happen, rather than what will happen

[grimreeper132]

2 minutes ago, Visslaren said:

This is GDPR? A EU law that affects all countries in EU from 2018.

 

http://ec.europa.eu/justice/data-protection/

The objective of this new set of rules is to give citizens back control over of thir personal data, and to simplify the regulatory environment for business. The data protection reform is a key enabler of the Digital Single Market which the Commission has prioritised. The reform will allow European citizens and businesses to fully benefit from the digital economy

 

I cant find a way to change the color on the text above, Im writing from my phone..

yes but Britain is leaving the EU meaning that it possibly wouldn't have the law when it did, so this is them making sure it is, by passing it through our parliament as well making it part of our laws rather than EU laws which we may not be following soon

[grimreeper132]

1 minute ago, Visslaren said:

I dont know how i forgott about that small detail.... Thanks

yea tiny detail of stupidity how we are getting dragged out of the EU by england

[mr moose]

Any law that gives back control of personal data to the person who it actual relates is good IMHO.

 

3 hours ago, Bouzoo said:

 

Also DNS?

 

 

DNA not DNS,  some companies store DNA data.   Not sure how many would or why.  Also I wonder if finger prints are consider DNA data or just personally identifying data.

[grimreeper132]

13 minutes ago, mr moose said:

Any law that gives back control of personal data to the person who it actual relates is good IMHO.

 

 

DNA not DNS,  some companies store DNA data.   Not sure how many would or why.  Also I wonder if finger prints are consider DNA data or just personally identifying data.

I agree it's good to a point there is some cases where it's not, but in most yea it's good. Mainly the who's your relatives ones, and possibly it would be good to know, I doubt this law could stop the police from storing your DNA and finger prints though, I would imagine they weren't that dumb to make it that you can get the police to remove your data

[mr moose]

10 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

I agree it's good to a point there is some cases where it's not, but in most yea it's good. Mainly the who's your relatives ones, and possibly it would be good to know, I doubt this law could stop the police from storing your DNA and finger prints though, I would imagine they weren't that dumb to make it that you can get the police to remove your data

Yeah, there is no way they are letting people demand the police delete such data. I can almost guarantee it will be aimed solely at private enterprise for any service not contracted by the government.

[grimreeper132]

3 minutes ago, mr moose said:

Yeah, there is no way they are letting people demand the police delete such data. I can almost guarantee it will be aimed solely at private enterprise for any service not contracted by the government.

oh I imagine that is true but our politicians smurt and that might be possible with their wording etc.

[mr moose]

1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

oh I imagine that is true but our politicians smurt and that might be possible with their wording etc.

or this whole proposal slots into law that is automatically overridden by other laws.   When the legal system is a complicated as today's have become, there are a lot of laws that take precedence especially where policing and security are concerned.  The biggest example is the law that allows police to hold you almost indefinitely if the crime is a suspected terror crime.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

4 hours ago, grimreeper132 said:

no some companies store your DNA data, ancestor.com for example, and yea their end game is a tad unclear as I am not sure if this is being done just to please the EU 

On the contrary, it looks to me as if they are trying to replace the EU law, since that won't apply after Brexit, in order to have the same in place.

 

The EU already has it in place, by the way. If you search something, especially people (for example, John Smith) from Europe you'll get a message like this:

Spoiler

 

[PlayStation 2]

Sounds like the UK government wanting to cover their ass. You know, because it's better to go after "right wing extremists" than actual terrorists.

[SCHISCHKA]

i should make a bot that requests this on every http request