AMD RX Vega x2 Allegedly In The Works By Asus, To Be Liquid Cooled

[Mr_Troll]

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AMD RX Vega x2 Allegedly In The Works By Asus, To Be Liquid Cooled

 

A liquid cooled dual GPU Radeon RX Vega graphics card is allegedly in development by Asus and should grace store shelves later this year. We’ve heard whispers that design work is underway at Asus to put two of AMD’s upcoming high-end Vega 10 on a single board.A couple of weeks ago we heard that AMD has given its AIB partners the greenlight to take whatever freedoms they wish to design custom graphics cards based on the company’s brand new Vega 10 GPUs, including Vega 10 XT (64 compute chip) and Vega 10 XL (56 compute unit chip).

 

If what we’re hearing is true, Asus will take those design liberties offered by AMD to the absolute max to make an absolute monster of a card featuring two full Vega 10 XT GPUs. With over 50 teraflops of FP16 compute, 25 teraflops of FP32 compute and nearing on 600W this card is set to be the world’s most powerful and most power hungry. At this juncture liquid cooling is no longer a luxury but an absolute necessity.

 

 

Asus will allegedly only make a limited number of these cards and will charge a pretty penny for each one.  The card itself will be a statement by Asus’ as a means of displaying what they’re capable of rather than a commercial product that they expect to sell en mass. In many ways then this card reminds us of the ARES II.  Which was a dual HD 7970 graphics card that was the fastest in the world when it came out and the first ever to use liquid cooling.

 

why? whats the point? it will probably kill any power supply. 

 

Source:http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-64-x2/

 

[Delicieuxz]

Could this be the Vega GPU that a recent rumour said would cost more than a GTX 1080 Ti?

 

 

AMD has a pretty consistent track record for making a dual GPU variant for each of their architectures.

On 26/07/2017 at 9:13 AM, Masada02 said:

Technically, from start to finish: 3870x2, 4870x2, 6990, 7990, (8990 if you count OEMs), 295x2, Pro Duo (Fiji chips), Pro Duo (Polaris chips). 

 

 

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why? whats the point? it will probably kill any power supply. 

I bet that a lot of 4K gamers will want this. It's also great marketing for AMD, because with this they'll have the most powerful consumer graphics card on the market.

[Brooksie359]

Well what type of psu are you going to need for this behemoth lol.

[EnergyEclipse]

Lawdjesusweredidwegowrong

 

600 WATTS

[flibberdipper]

>will kill almost any power supply

I'd love to see this thing suck a 1KW PSU dry. I'd just love it so

[ravenshrike]

4 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Well what type of psu are you going to need for this behemoth lol.

1000 watt just to be safe with Ryzen/1151. 1200 watt with Skylake X/Threadripper. 1600 watt PSU with delidded and fully overclocked Skylake X.

[manikyath]

7 minutes ago, Mr_Troll said:

why? whats the point? it will probably kill any power supply. 

there's a lot of things that dont have a point. and on the topic of killing power supplies.. thats why you buy high quality ones of the appropriate wattage.

 

as for other things that didnt really "have a point":

Spoiler

 

 

sometimes its not about something "having a point" but about "making a point". sometimes a brand wants to prove their superiority in the market and do something.. show their technological skill being able to do something no other brand has done before them, like putting 1000 horsepower in a production car:

 

what's the point of a veyron? nothing. what's the point they made with a veyron? that they were the first to shove 1000bhp into a road legal production car.

[samcool55]

I won't be suprised if it required like 4 or 5 8-pin connectors.

Actually, no, 2 8-pins might be enough if the Vega Nano will be a thing.

It's actually not that crazy if a Nano will exist O_o

 

The PCB design would actually be not THAT hard to do because you don't need to worry about a bunch of GDDR5 modules.

[Dackzy]

only 600W? What is this pleb shit?  

TBH I don't really give a single fuck if my system draws 500W, 1000W or 2000W as long as it does what I need it to do and I don't see why people are making such a big fuss about it. Ofc if the cooling is bad I can understand the fuss, but this is water cooled so it is probably okay.

[Bananasplit_00]

27 minutes ago, Delicieuxz said:

Could this be the Vega GPU that a recent rumour said would cost more than a GTX 1080 Ti?

 

 

AMD has a pretty consistent track record for making a dual GPU variant for each of their architectures.

 

 

I bet that a lot of 4K gamers will want this. It's also great marketing for AMD, because with this they'll have the most powerful consumer GPU on the market.

definatly a possibility, but i would guess ASUS are not the only ones working on a dual GPU card, just the only ones to be loud about it

[rawrdaysgoby]

Way to many people still have 1000watt psu I wouldn't worry lol even 850 watts

[Jito463]

*checks out the card*

 

*glances at 650WT PSU*

 

Uh...no.  Even though I could almost certainly safely push 750WT through this PSU, I wouldn't risk it on this behemoth.  It's cool, though.

[BingoFishy]

So, that's, what, 600-800 watts? Sounds like fun.

[RagnarokDel]

if it's 2, it doesnt have to clock at 1600 mhz to crush a 1080TI in games that will support it. Even at 1100 Mhz it would beat it fair and square and if Vega is anything like Polaris, it gets insanely efficient when you lower the clocks a bit.

 

RX 480 4gb at 1303Mhz core/1750Mhz vram 132W

RX 480 4gb at 1000Mhz core/1750Mhz vram 78W

Rx 480 4gb at 900Mhz core/1750Mhz vram 70W

 

PS: That's without undervolting the GPU, so 1150mV. (altho at 900Mhz it does run at a much lower voltage automatically)

19 minutes ago, Jito463 said:

*checks out the card*

 

*glances at 650WT PSU*

 

Uh...no.  Even though I could almost certainly safely push 750WT through this PSU, I wouldn't risk it on this behemoth.  It's cool, though.

You can get a EVGA 80+ Gold semi-modular (only PSU cable isnt modular) 1050W PSU for USD $100 when on sales which is not that rare. 

[dizmo]

Hmmm, so we're looking at what'll likely be a 550w TDP card. Hopefully it's powerful and games can leverage the dual GPU properly. I'd be tempted to use this, but since it's Asus I'm betting it'll be black and red, a color scheme I despise.

If they make it pure black, it's not disgustingly expensive (I foresee $1,599 unfortunately), I'd consider it.

34 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

only 600W? What is this pleb shit?  

TBH I don't really give a single fuck if my system draws 500W, 1000W or 2000W as long as it does what I need it to do and I don't see why people are making such a big fuss about it. Ofc if the cooling is bad I can understand the fuss, but this is water cooled so it is probably okay.

People that live in areas with high energy usage, that are on a tight budget. Which, granted this card isn't marketed to, but you'll hear their opinions anyway.

22 minutes ago, rawrdaysgoby said:

Way to many people still have 1000watt psu I wouldn't worry lol even 850 watts

850w would be really, really pushing it.

6 minutes ago, RagnarokDel said:

if it's 2, it doesnt have to clock at 1600 mhz to crush a 1080TI in games that will support it. Even at 1100 Mhz it would beat it fair and square and if Vega is anything like Polaris, it gets insanely efficient when you lower the clocks a bit.

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Let's be real though, if you're buying this card chances are you want to overclock the hell out of it to squeeze out every last drop of performance you can.

[Drak3]

2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Let's be real though, if you're buying this card chances are you want to overclock the hell out of it to squeeze out every last drop of performance you can.

Odds are better that you want something powerful, out of the box. With what's been seen with Frontier, I can't see many people that would want this card, wanting to overclock it out of fear that it'll draw 800W+ by itself.

[dexT]

It'll be like the Aries III and have a full-cover block and need a loop hopefully. No AIO ish.

[tom_w141]

13 minutes ago, RagnarokDel said:

games that will support it.

Exactly.

 

People getting excited about this never seem to remember that crossfire/SLI are shit and are being phased out by both parties. In a workload where scaling is 100% this will be a beast. Gaming? Nope because crossfire support is garbage. Games are moving AWAY from it.

 

41 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Called it.

So did everyone but until the gpus are linked by IF and recognised by the system as 1 card then its a hungry pile of shit (for gaming). Multi die linked by IF is exciting and why Navi will be interesting. This card and vega on the whole is meh.

 

Vega is good if you fall into the following categories:

 

- You want 1070+ performance for cheaper than a 1070 (current prices). Awesome then Vega 56 is for you.

 

- You want ~1080 performance but you have a freesync monitor already. Awesome then Vega 64 is for you.

 

- You want 1070-1080 performance and also a system build/upgrade. Awesome then the Radeon Packs are for you.

 

BUT:

 

If you want the best gaming experience possible you still need a 1080Ti or TitanXp because this dual vega card won't be widely supported in games and therefore = crap.

[RagnarokDel]

11 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Exactly.

 

People getting excited about this never seem to remember that crossfire/SLI are shit and are being phased out by both parties. In a workload where scaling is 100% this will be a beast. Gaming? Nope because crossfire support is garbage. Games are moving AWAY from it.

 

Multi-GPU with Dx12. They're moving away from it because you wont need it anymore.

[Jumper118]

hopefully not aio cooled and comes with a proper water block like the ares 3 

[tom_w141]

3 minutes ago, RagnarokDel said:

Multi-GPU with Dx12. They're moving away from it because you wont need it anymore.

How many games include this feature? I can't think of any.

 

I predict its too much effort and devs won't touch it. Generational leaps on single cards are more than good enough to suit our current needs. 1080p is still mainstream and we have 4k capable cards already.

[tom_w141]

Just now, valdyrgramr said:

No, I was the first one to say "AMD is probably putting 2 on one PCB"  and also said, "AMD is doing the fusion dance again".  Some people agreed while others claimed not yet, and not until the next arc.  You can see said posts in that thread about the TDP or whatever.

I think I was in one of those threads and I never denied a 2x card just that 2x cards are crap for gaming and will always be crap until the system sees it as 1 card, aka Navi. Therefore I think I and others said the multi gpu seamlessly linked concept won't happen with vega and it didn't. They have been bunging 2 on a card for years and its useless unless you need the compute power, for gaming it just sucks.

[RagnarokDel]

4 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

How many games include this feature? I can't think of any.

 

I predict its too much effort and devs won't touch it. Generational leaps on single cards are more than good enough to suit our current needs. 1080p is still mainstream and we have 4k capable cards already.

Hitman, Ashes, The Division and Deus Ex:Mankind Divided possibly more

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

devs hate multi-gpu support

Well nothing argues my point more. This card = expensive waste of money for gaming.

[Evolution90]

Costs 4 grand.. comes with free 1600 watt PSU.