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Linus needs to benchmark more games in hardware reviews

H0R53
By H0R53
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When running benchmarks, Linus always tests the same games like Tomb Raider and Hitman and what not, and it's getting old because I don't play those games (as well as a lot of other people).

 

I've never seen Linus test the following games:

Skyrim

Skyrim SE

Fallout 4

Lost Planet 2 (has built in benchmark, saw in one video)

Overwatch

GTA 5

Dark Souls 3

Need for Speed 2015

Witcher 3 (saw like twice)

Doom 2016

Bioshock Infinite

 

These are a lot popular than a few of the games he tests (with Skyrim and Fallout 4 being prominent). It'd be nice to see these games benchmarked (you can turn vSync off in all of them).

 

I mean if you're gonna benchmark at least test more than 2 or three things like Firestrike.

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I have seen them all except NFS, Lost Planet 2, and Skyrim SE

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10 minutes ago, H0R53 said:

Let me address some of your concerns, game by game.

 

Skyrim - Old AF. FPS would be atmospheric, bottlenecks appear in strange places.

Skyrim SE - not very demanding. same issue as skyrim

Fallout 4 - IDK why this one isn't tested. probably something due to it not having a built in benchmark, and performance not being consistent.

Lost Planet 2 (has built in benchmark, saw in one video) - never heard of that game. might not be relatable to most of his audience

Overwatch - same issue as skyrim.

GTA 5 - same issue as skyrim.

Dark Souls 3 - same issue as fallout

Need for Speed 2015 - not familiar with this game. same issues as fallout/skyrim maybe?

Witcher 3 (saw like twice) - IDK why this isn't tested more often TBH. doesn't have a benchmark, but performance is consistent enough. this one should legit be tested. (maybe it's not due to hairworks and allegations of gimpworks)

Doom 2016 - heavily favors AMD. would give AMD cards an advantage. not good for benchmarks

Bioshock Infinite - same issue as skyrim.

 

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Skyrim - Old

Skyrim SE - Not relevant enough

Fallout 4 - Too many issues

Lost Planet 2 (has built in benchmark, saw in one video) - Never even heard of it

Overwatch - Easy to run, not relevant enough on high end cards and you are supposed to play on lowest settings to be competitive

GTA 5 - I might give you the pass on this, but it is very CPU heavy

Dark Souls 3 - Not borad enough

Need for Speed 2015 - WHAT??

Witcher 3 (saw like twice) - Not relevant at this point

Doom 2016 - With Vulkan almost anything can play ultra at the 200fps cap

Bioshock Infinite - OLD

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Not DOOM please. No offense,  it it makes me wanna puke. I’m not too good at handling excessive, unnecessary gore. GTA V should be on ther though, as it’s a very popular game. 

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It's not worth the time investment required to test more games if you ask me (doing it on one card is fine, but swapping out multiple cards or CPUs can take quite a while).

 

There's so many websites and publishers that do much more in depth and thorough benchmarks that aren't reliant on on-camera talent, it doesn't really make much sense for LTT to do it as well. With the style of LTT's current content, it's really more about entertainment than just information, with (probably) the majority of people watching for the on-camera personalities rather than graphs and numbers. If they wanted to focus on graphs and numbers, doing write ups is much more efficient than videos. 

 

It makes more sense for LTT to focus its time on producing content that can take advantage of their on-camera personalities, especially when there are already so many other sources for the numbers and graphs. 

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1 minute ago, RadiatingLight said:

Let me address some of your concerns, game by game.

 

Skyrim - Old AF. FPS would be atmolspheric, bottlenecks appear in strange places.

Skyrim SE - not very demanding. same issue as skyrim

Fallout 4 - IDK why this one isn't tested. probably something due to it not having a built in benchmark, and performance not being consistent.

Lost Planet 2 (has built in benchmark, saw in one video) - never heard of that game. might not be relatable to most of his audience

Overwatch - same issue as skyrim.

GTA 5 - same issue as skyrim.

Dark Souls 3 - same issue as fallout

Need for Speed 2015 - not familiar with this game. same issues as fallout/skyrim maybe?

Witcher 3 (saw like twice) - IDK why this isn't tested more often TBH. doesn't have a benchmark, but performance is consistent enough. this one should legit be tested. (maybe it's not due to hairworks and allegations of gimpworks)

Doom 2016 - heavily favors AMD. would give AMD cards an advantage. not good for benchmarks

Bioshock Infinite - same issue as skyrim.

So?

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So?

So?

I just told you why he doesn't benchmark the games you suggested.

 

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So?

I just told you why he doesn't benchmark the games you suggested.

 

now "so" doesn't even sound like a real word anymore

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Just now, Technicolors said:

you can go with hardware unboxed / techspot benchmarks. the guy's the benchmark king 

 

1 minute ago, RadiatingLight said:

So?

I just told you why he doesn't benchmark the games you suggested.

 

Let me rephrase then.

 

Every time I look at other YouTubers for benchmarks, their videos are annoying in some aspect, and here are a few:

-Lisp (very annoying to hear)

-annoying background music

-No background music

-Background music is at a bad volume

-Annoying voice

-Inconsistent voice

-Poor production quality

-Opinionated and biased benchmarks

-Poorly written scripts, if any

-Excessive intros

 

The list goes on.

For example, Salzaar Studio is an annoying, arrogant, opinionated prick. The background music is trash, his voice is annoying, he talks like he knows everything and the video production quality is extremely inconsistent.

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When running benchmarks, Linus always tests the same games like Tomb Raider and Hitman and what not, and it's getting old because I don't play those games (as well as a lot of other people).

well there's plenty of people doing reviews and between them all just about everything modern is tested, don't like what Linus and co have covered? Check Paul, or Kyle, or Jay, or one of the dozens of other reviewers out there for what they cover and say

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Just now, H0R53 said:

 

Let me rephrase then.

 

Every time I look at other YouTubers for benchmarks, their videos are annoying in some aspect, and here are a few:

-Lisp (very annoying to hear)

-annoying background music

-No background music

-Background music is at a bad volume

-Annoying voice

-Inconsistent voice

-Poor production quality

-Opinionated and biased benchmarks

-Poorly written scripts, if any

-Excessive intros

 

The list goes on.

For example, Salzaar Studio is an annoying, arrogant, opinionated prick. The background music is trash, his voice is annoying, he talks like he knows everything and the video production quality is extremely inconsistent.

Um...

What does this have to do with anything?

we're talking about why linus doesn't benchmark other games, not why he is the god of all content creators.

 

P.S. I actually watch Science Studio a lot, and I really like Salazar. IDK what makes you think he's a prick, but I think that he's really nice, and provides good, balanced opinions.

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Just now, RadiatingLight said:

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What does this have to do with anything?

we're talking about why linus doesn't benchmark other games, not why he is the god of all content creators.

 

P.S. I actually watch Science Studio a lot, and I really like Salazar. IDK what makes you think he's a prick, but I think that he's really nice, and provides good, balanced opinions.

Difference of opinion, then.

 

I was asked why I didn't look for other YouTubers. That was my response.

 

Even then, it would be nice to see some different benchmarks.

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4 minutes ago, H0R53 said:

 

Let me rephrase then.

 

Every time I look at other YouTubers for benchmarks, their videos are annoying in some aspect, and here are a few:

-Lisp (very annoying to hear)

-annoying background music

-No background music

-Background music is at a bad volume

-Annoying voice

-Inconsistent voice

-Poor production quality

-Opinionated and biased benchmarks

-Poorly written scripts, if any

-Excessive intros

 

The list goes on.

For example, Salzaar Studio is an annoying, arrogant, opinionated prick. The background music is trash, his voice is annoying, he talks like he knows everything and the video production quality is extremely inconsistent.

I'm just going to be honest here with you, for content that you can view for free (aside from the price of your internet), you're being really picky.

 

But closer to the topic, if the sounds of their videos annoy you, couldn't you find a reputable website that has benched most of the games you want to see? 

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I'm just going to be honest here with you, for content that you can view for free (aside from the price of your internet), you're being really picky.

 

But closer to the topic, if the sounds of their videos annoy you, couldn't you find a reputable website that has benched most of the games you want to see? 

Like you said, this is probably me being picky, but I'd rather see a video of the game running on the card before going out and buying one based on numbers on a webpage that can be inaccurate.

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Let me rephrase then.

 

The list goes on.

For example, Salzaar Studio is an annoying, arrogant, opinionated prick. The background music is trash, his voice is annoying, he talks like he knows everything and the video production quality is extremely inconsistent.

well hardware unboxed always has an accompanying article on their site so you don't have to watch the video. and plus he also has a table of contents for each bench video 

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well hardware unboxed always has an accompanying article on their site so you don't have to watch the video. and plus he also has a table of contents for each bench video 

I'll take a look, but even then, as the saying goes;

 

"Variety is the spice of life".

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Like you said, this is probably me being picky, but I'd rather see a video of the game running on the card before going out and buying one based on numbers on a webpage that can be inaccurate.

numbers in a video are no more accurate than numbers on a spreadsheet.

where do you think the numbers in the video come from? ... a spreadsheet.

the video is simply to aid you in seeing the data easier. the data itself doesn't change.

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Skyrim is easy to run. 

Skyrim SE is easy to run.

Fallout 4 is inconsistent to do. 

Lost Planet 2 can be played on a potato at this point. 

Overwatch is easy to run on almost anything above a 660 Ti making results rather meaningless.

GTA V is a balanced option, but isn't a good choice as it's well-made and can push nearly anything. 

Dark Souls 3, I would hate to see Linus fight even a rat in that game and, even then, he'd probably put "unplayable" in the chart.

Need for Speed '15 is handled by any other racing game.

Witcher 3 is a good choice as it taxes the GPU quite heavily in most cases. 

Doom 2016 is capped at 200 making results meaningless in the long run. 

Bioshock Infinite is easy to run at this point.

 

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Every game they test takes a little more time and that costs money so it's probably just an economic decision.  It's not like they don't know about these games, it's just that there's only so much time.  If there was infinite time and money I'm sure they'd be happy to do 100 games :P 

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Imo running few demanding and relevant games is more important than running billion of latest and greatest. The fact that they are using Ashes of Singularity much (built-in benchmark, there's older free called Star Swarm) is good example. Can be very demanding, is current and relates to many strategy games with much stuff happening on screen.

 

If you want more games, look for more reviews. And maybe more written reviews. Those tend to have more time to run different benchmarks.

 

E: Its also about being able to make comparisons with older hardware. So its no use to pick latest games because they'd have to rerun old hardware to get valid comparison.

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My guess Linus doesn't put in more benchmarks in his videos: Because they don't feel like putting in the time and effort.

I mean, I doubt his views would go up just because he included a few more games, and to me it seems that is their number 1 priority.

 

 

I only see one issue here and that's that you expect information from a LTT video.

If you want to be entertained then watch LTT all you want. If you want information though, such as benchmarks, then you're much better off looking up a proper review on a site like Anandtech or PCPer.

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I usually just skip the benchmark graphs whenever they show up in a video and would only look up the data in articles when i need them. Im sure most people does the same thing because graphs are boring and would only be detrimental to the audience retention efforts. 

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