X299 Build for a friend

[GoldForest]

Alright, so my friend wants to go for an X299 build. He doesn't have an account so I'm posting this for him to get advice.

Here's the info he filled out: 

 

2600 at most, 2500 most desirably. USD

Gaming, music production, video recording and editing, livestreaming, internet browsing, and art production

3 monitors, 1920x1080

2 additional monitors (He has one already and wants to run 3 1080p screens.)

VR primarily, but also to reach peak FPS on newer games that persistently cause crippling lag during explosions or intensive events. Also to increase multitasking performance, so that recording games will not render them slow and low quality. Nor will having tabs open in the background

 

His current Rig: 

CPU: i5-4950 4 core
Motherboard: Asus N1996
Cooling: 2x fan, one is TT-1225, other is unreadable while spinning
GPU: GeForce GTX 760
PSU: Antec Truepower 650
CPU Cooling: Intel e97378
RAM: 2X 8Gb Corsair Vengeance
Storage HHD 1 (Windows Drive): 372Gb
Storage HHD 2: 931Gb
Storage HHD 3: 465Gb
OS: Windows 10 (64-bit)

 

New Rig he's considering: 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Ch9D8

 

[GoldForest]

Posted the wrong new rig. New rig added.

[BubblyCharizard]

why get an 80GB SATA SSD? wouldn't it be better to go with an NVME m.2 or pci card

[phongle123]

If he doesn't ever plan on upgrading RAM. He should consider 8x4 GB of ram to fill up the Quad Channel so it looks cooler.

[GoldForest]

1 minute ago, BubblyCharizard said:

why get an 80GB SATA SSD? wouldn't it be better to go with an NVME m.2 or pci card

I had the wrong link before, there's a new one up. Also, he already has a Wins 10 HHD that he plans on moving over. 

[BubblyCharizard]

i'd go with an 256-512GB nvme drive over a 1TB sata3 ssd you'll get much better response and boot times from the drive

 

same as RAM....higher speed with Quad channel

[GoldForest]

4 minutes ago, BubblyCharizard said:

i'd go with an 256-512GB nvme drive over a 1TB sata3 ssd you'll get much better response and boot times from the drive

 

same as RAM....higher speed with Quad channel

He already has a boot drive which he's taking from his old pc. The 1TB is for game, movie, and song storage.

 

[rn8686]

R5 or R7 would be good, save money and get more cores. 

[BubblyCharizard]

5 minutes ago, GoldForest said:

He already has a boot drive which he's taking from his old pc. The 1TB is for game, movie, and song storage.

change boot drive to faster medium

 

ideally, you would want game storage to be on an HDD and the OS to be (sata3 or NVME*) SSD

[GoldForest]

11 minutes ago, BubblyCharizard said:

i'd go with an 256-512GB nvme drive over a 1TB sata3 ssd you'll get much better response and boot times from the drive

 

same as RAM....higher speed with Quad channel

Actually, just checked, it is for the boot drive and he would put a few games on it. 

4 minutes ago, rn8686 said:

R5 or R7 would be good, save money and get more cores. 

He wants to stick with the core series of CPUs, but he is considering AMD. He's worried about compatibility for the 1080TI. He also wants performance. I tell him that Ryzen is just as good if not better, but he still thinks the I7 will do better.

 

Just now, BubblyCharizard said:

change boot drive to faster medium

 

ideally, you would want game storage to be on an HDD and the OS to be (sata3 or NVME*) SSD

 

[BubblyCharizard]

5 minutes ago, GoldForest said:

13 minutes ago, rn8686 said:

 

He wants to stick with the core series of CPUs, but he is considering AMD. He's worried about compatibility for the 1080TI. He also wants performance. I tell him that Ryzen is just as good if not better, but he still thinks the I7 will do better.

 

IPC wise, intel still has the advantage, but ryzen provides a good alternative for the first time in years

[rn8686]

Just now, BubblyCharizard said:

IPC wise, intel still has the advantage, but ryzen provides a good alternative for the first time in years

Very little, basically non existent with an OC and faster ram (Obliviously 8 cores will be better in multi-threaded applications). 

[GoldForest]

Just now, BubblyCharizard said:

IPC wise, intel still has the advantage, but ryzen provides a good alternative for the first time in years

 

 

1 minute ago, rn8686 said:

Very little, basically non existent with an OC and faster ram (Obliviously 8 cores will be better in multi-threaded applications). 

Okay, now he is looking into an AMD build

Latest build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wVh9D8

[rn8686]

Just now, GoldForest said:

 

 

Okay, now he is looking into an AMD build

Latest build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wVh9D8

Good, could just get a 1700 an OC to the 1800x (or very close at least). 

[stealth80]

$2500, were 10 days away from threadripper, the X1900 is 8 core 16 thread on X399 and is $599. Id spend that time telling your friend to go AMD and show him some 8 core ryzen benchmarks vs 6 core intel. 

[stealth80]

7 minutes ago, GoldForest said:

 

 

Okay, now he is looking into an AMD build

Latest build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wVh9D8

The MSI board is terrible vs the Asus Crosshair 6 and the AsRock Taichi. However as I said above, at this price point and time, I would wait 10 days for AMD's threadripper

[GoldForest]

5 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

$2500, were 10 days away from threadripper, the X1900 is 8 core 16 thread on X399 and is $599. Id spend that time telling your friend to go AMD and show him some 8 core ryzen benchmarks vs 6 core intel. 

Is there any real difference from 1700 and 1900x besides clock speeds and PCI-E lanes? He's not going to be running quad XFire Vegas.

[GoldForest]

Latest Build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nysKtJ

[rn8686]

28 minutes ago, GoldForest said:

Is there any real difference from 1700 and 1900x besides clock speeds and PCI-E lanes? He's not going to be running quad XFire Vegas.

Not alot, its meant more for those w=who need those lanes but their workload doesnt benefit much from more cores. 

[moking01]

Why this case ? You have plenty of better options in this budget.

Phanteks enthoo evolve

Phatneks enthoo luxe

Phanteks p400s tg

Nzxt. S340 elite

Corsair 560x rgb

[stealth80]

12 hours ago, GoldForest said:

Is there any real difference from 1700 and 1900x besides clock speeds and PCI-E lanes? He's not going to be running quad XFire Vegas.

Whilst it is still 8c/16t I do think there will be a performance improvement going from dual to quad channel ram. I think it's worth at least waiting for reviews to how it stacks up against the current Ryzen 7 and X299

[brob]

12 hours ago, GoldForest said:

Latest Build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nysKtJ

I would suggest keeping a 1TB ssd. Drop the psu to a 650W G3.