Single vs dual cord headpones?

[Wolf_Lbh]

Just curious but does running a Left and Right cable to headphones (Like with the Sennheiser hd6xx) offer any benefits over just running a single cable (Like with the Akg K7xx)?

[Max_Settings]

Yes, you can run balanced through 4pin XLR if you get the proper cable and have the proper AMP.

[Bananasplit_00]

probably not, i cant see why the internal wiering wouldnt allow doing what that does

[Wolf_Lbh]

2 minutes ago, Max_Settings said:

Yes, you can run balanced through 4pin XLR if you get the proper cable and have the proper AMP.

What does that mean?

[Max_Settings]

Just now, Wolf_Lbh said:

What does that mean?

You can get a cable like this one

When you use 1/4in the left and right channels share a ground which causes a tiny bit of static that is so small most people would never notice it. When you run balanced it separates the grounds removing the static. It also allows both drivers to receive the exact same amount of signal, hence the name balanced. Some people don't think it makes a big difference, but true audiophiles swear that is sounds better and will spends tons of extra money on it .

[Wolf_Lbh]

2 minutes ago, Max_Settings said:

You can get a cable like this one

When you use 1/4in the left and right channels share a ground which causes a tiny bit of static that is so small most people would never notice it. When you run balanced it separates the grounds removing the static. It also allows both drivers to receive the exact same amount of signal, hence the name balanced. Some people don't think it makes a big difference, but true audiophiles swear that is sounds better and will spends tons of extra money on it .

So does this mean the Sennheiser hd6xx support this? Pretty sure my schiit fulla 2 dac/amp doesn't though.

[Max_Settings]

Just now, Wolf_Lbh said:

So does this mean the Sennheiser hd6xx support this? Pretty sure my schiit fulla 2 dac/amp doesn't though.

Yes the 6XXs support it, but the Fulla 2 doesn't support balanced and doesn't have enough power to drive the HD 6XXs

[Wolf_Lbh]

1 minute ago, Max_Settings said:

Yes the 6XXs support it, but the Fulla 2 doesn't support balanced and doesn't have enough power to drive the HD 6XXs

Really? It could drive my mad dog fostex headphones so I have a hard time believing there is anything it can't drive.

[Max_Settings]

Just now, Wolf_Lbh said:

Really? It could drive my mad dog fostex headphones so I have a hard time believing there is anything it can't drive.

Like you aren't even in the ballpark with the Fulla 2. Remember these are 300ohm headphones. Fulla 2 only outputs 40mw per channel at 300ohm. For the 6XXs 500mw per channel is recommended.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/audio/sennheiser/hd-650.htm

[Max_Settings]

Now you don't have to have 500mw per channel, but you need more than 40mw, 250mw would suffice.

[Max_Settings]

And with the Mad Dog those only recommend a max of 300mw per channel. Those are 50ohm and the Fulla 2 does 230mw per channel at 50ohm, that's why you had no problem with the Mad Dogs. 

[Dackzy]

1 hour ago, Max_Settings said:

Like you aren't even in the ballpark with the Fulla 2. Remember these are 300ohm headphones. Fulla 2 only outputs 40mw per channel at 300ohm. For the 6XXs 500mw per channel is recommended.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/audio/sennheiser/hd-650.htm

you are WAY off mate. 500mw is how much they can handle and look at how loud they are playing once you pump 500mw into them, nobody should listen to anything near that volume. Hell if you want to listen for longer periods you should keep your volume around 70dB or less.

This is how much power HD 6xx's actually need at different dB levels

Simply go to this website http://www.digizoid.com/headphones-power.html write 300 under impedance, set the sensitivity to 103 and pick dB SPL/V, then you get those numbers. So yes a Fulla 2 can without any problems power them.

 

PS. OP if you want custom cables and don't want to make them yourself, then I have heard many good things about this shop ursine.audio it is US based.

[Jdnoss1234]

You also have to take into consideration the type of music you listen to. If you are listening to the lastest DJ Khaled album your phone will get those headphones loud enough, but if you are listening to say Tchaikovsky: Waltz from Eugene Onegin, Op. 24 which my copy happens to have a -31 db average volume it will take all the Fulla 2 has to get it to safe levels. Also it is never good to run an amp at max volume to limit the amount of distortion. So amplifier headroom is never a bad idea.