Anyone using DDR4 4000 with Ryzen?

[dexT]

DDR4 4000+ what clocks and timings are you running? Looking for kits that do 3466-3600 probably will be using the C6H.

 

These are all B-Die if this fast right?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231954

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232193

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233905

[themctipers]

i dont even think you can do 4ghz with intel (with it being 100% stable)

 

 

i am pretty sure ram compatibility/speeds will most likely depend on your CPU, at this point I think 2666 is guaranteed on midranged and better motherboards.

 

 

[GER_T4IGA]

Link is brocken. I also have never heard of any ryzen user with more than 3200MHz RAM frequency.

[dexT]

3 minutes ago, themctipers said:

i dont even think you can do 4ghz with intel (with it being 100% stable)

 

 

i am pretty sure ram compatibility/speeds will most likely depend on your CPU, at this point I think 2666 is guaranteed on midranged and better motherboards.

 

 

You can do 4000+ on Intel and I've seen a good amount of 3466 and 3600 on Ryzen.

 

Just now, GER_T4IGA said:

Link is brocken. I also have never heard of any ryzen user with more than 3200MHz RAM frequency.

Fixed with individual links to kits. I've seen multiple with 3600.

[themctipers]

Just now, dexT said:

You can do 4000+ on Intel and I've seen a good amount of 3466 and 3600 on Ryzen.

 

Fixed with individual links to kits. I've seen multiple with 3600.

interesting.. i really only hear 3200mhz on ryzen, and lower clocks on Intel as it matters MUCH less.

[dexT]

2 minutes ago, themctipers said:

interesting.. i really only hear 3200mhz on ryzen, and lower clocks on Intel as it matters MUCH less.

ETC...

 

[ARikozuM]

I've heard of a few, but they're enthusiasts who allocated budgets extremely well. The only guy that I know of that was successful in getting the full 4200MHz was using G.Skill TridentZ 2x8GB. He was kind of heartbroken when he couldn't use both of the kits for his system, so I bought one of them for a potential CFL/KBL/R5 upgrade if CFL turns out well. 

[dexT]

54 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

I've heard of a few, but they're enthusiasts who allocated budgets extremely well. The only guy that I know of that was successful in getting the full 4200MHz was using G.Skill TridentZ 2x8GB. He was kind of heartbroken when he couldn't use both of the kits for his system, so I bought one of them for a potential CFL/KBL/R5 upgrade if CFL turns out well. 

I should have stated that I bench competitively so I need top memory performance but this will be my multipurpose daily driver. I need fast DDR4 anyway to have for overclocking.

 

Looking at getting this in two months already have the storage/gpu/psu

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FYpPBP

 

EDIT: Amazon's out of $269 1700 again

 

[dexT]

Anybody running more than 3200 effective on Ryzen please post your kit and settings.

[ARikozuM]

@MageTank @done12many2

[MageTank]

16 hours ago, dexT said:

DDR4 4000+ what clocks and timings are you running? Looking for kits that do 3466-3600 probably will be using the C6H.

 

These are all B-Die if this fast right?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231954

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232193

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233905

Them being Samsung B-Die isn't exactly enough. I used my Samsung B-Die kit on Ryzen, and my 3200 C14 XMP wouldn't load at all. I am assuming some slight tweaks in the FlareX kits allow for better compatibility as far as XMP settings go, but it could also be the fact that Ryzen hates multi-rank kits, and my kit is dual rank.

 

As for 4000+ on Ryzen, I have personally never seen it. If someone has achieved it, I would love to see the results, as my friends who I consider very skilled at memory overclocking, have only achieved around 3866 on the C6H. We've yet to get a real memory overclocking motherboard on Ryzen though. No OCFm's or Apex equivalents, so with enough faith, that might change in the future.

 

I did get my kit to 3466 with rank interleaving enabled, but gained so much latency in the process that it simply wasn't worth it. My kit: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232218

 

16 hours ago, themctipers said:

interesting.. i really only hear 3200mhz on ryzen, and lower clocks on Intel as it matters MUCH less.

It still matters quite a bit on Intel. I still see 10-15% difference in minimum frames with a 7700k and GTX 1070 at 1440p. Really depends on how I/O bound you are, and the application in question. 

[themctipers]

Just now, MageTank said:

Them being Samsung B-Die isn't exactly enough. I used my Samsung B-Die kit on Ryzen, and my 3200 C14 XMP wouldn't load at all. I am assuming some slight tweaks in the FlareX kits allow for better compatibility as far as XMP settings go, but it could also be the fact that Ryzen hates multi-rank kits, and my kit is dual rank.

 

As for 4000+ on Ryzen, I have personally never seen it. If someone has achieved it, I would love to see the results, as my friends who I consider very skilled at memory overclocking, have only achieved around 3866 on the C6H. We've yet to get a real memory overclocking motherboard on Ryzen though. No OCFm's or Apex equivalents, so with enough faith, that might change in the future.

 

I did get my kit to 3466 with rank interleaving enabled, but gained so much latency in the process that it simply wasn't worth it. My kit: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232218

 

It still matters quite a bit on Intel. I still see 10-15% difference in minimum frames with a 7700k and GTX 1070 at 1440p. Really depends on how I/O bound you are, and the application in question. 

and i was stuck with 1066mhz for a while because IMC on my 3770k derped, it now needs 1.05v instead of 1v.

[dexT]

45 minutes ago, MageTank said:

Them being Samsung B-Die isn't exactly enough. I used my Samsung B-Die kit on Ryzen, and my 3200 C14 XMP wouldn't load at all. I am assuming some slight tweaks in the FlareX kits allow for better compatibility as far as XMP settings go, but it could also be the fact that Ryzen hates multi-rank kits, and my kit is dual rank.

 

As for 4000+ on Ryzen, I have personally never seen it. If someone has achieved it, I would love to see the results, as my friends who I consider very skilled at memory overclocking, have only achieved around 3866 on the C6H. We've yet to get a real memory overclocking motherboard on Ryzen though. No OCFm's or Apex equivalents, so with enough faith, that might change in the future.

 

I did get my kit to 3466 with rank interleaving enabled, but gained so much latency in the process that it simply wasn't worth it. My kit: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232218

I'm not concerned with what they'll run XMP but that 3866 sounds like what I'm talking about. The 4GB 4000 rated sticks I'm looking at should be the best to get highest posible clocks right?

[MageTank]

Just now, dexT said:

I'm not concerned with what they'll run XMP but that 3866 sounds like what I'm talking about. The 4GB 4000 rated sticks I'm looking at should be the best to get highest posible clocks right?

If you know what you are doing, I would say they are probably your best bet in terms of ruling out the DIMM's themselves as the bottleneck. You are still going to need a board with good traces, and an IMC that can handle it. 

[KarathKasun]

You need to manually set pretty much all timings on Ryzen to get much above 3200.

[Salacious B Crum]

My Crosshair Hero vi with both 4 pin and 8 pin power and an 1800x with my flare x is running at 33XX not sure of that exact number it was a preset I'll post exact when I get home, also I did not try to go higher so not sure if I can get any more out of it

[dexT]

26 minutes ago, MageTank said:

If you know what you are doing, I would say they are probably your best bet in terms of ruling out the DIMM's themselves as the bottleneck. You are still going to need a board with good traces, and an IMC that can handle it. 

Nice yeah getting the C6H. I bench on hwbot and oc esports so l'm ok. Paying more for 8GB DDR4 than I sold 16GB of DDR4 3000 a few months ago sucks though.

 

26 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

You need to manually set pretty much all timings on Ryzen to get much above 3200.

Awesome I feel confident now.

[dexT]

1 minute ago, mrbilky said:

My Crosshair Hero vi with both 4 pin and 8 pin power and an 1800x with my flare x is running at 33XX not sure of that exact number it was a preset I'll post exact when I get home, also I did not try to go higher so not sure if I can get any more out of it

Excellent thanks.

[Salacious B Crum]

2 hours ago, dexT said:

Excellent thanks.

 

[Kilobit81]

On 7/27/2017 at 7:06 PM, GER_T4IGA said:

Link is brocken. I also have never heard of any ryzen user with more than 3200MHz RAM frequency.

I use Gskill Ripjaw V DDR4 3600 17-18-18-38 @ 3600 MHz Quad Channel on my Threadripper 1950X