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What should I get? RX 570/580 4GB/8GB GTX 1060 6GB and why? 

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RX580 8 gig. 10-12% better than the 1060 6 gig and it has 2 extra gig of vram

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1 minute ago, iwant.luffy said:

What should I get? RX 570/580 4GB/8GB GTX 1060 6GB and why? 

1060 and 580 are pretty much on the same level, with a few games with the 1060 on top and a few (more) on top with the 580. So, generally speaking, the 8gb RX580 is better. The 1060 6GB is a little less, but on the same tier.

 

The RX570 can compete and even beat the 1060 in some games, but is usually A BIT slower. 

 

The 1060 3GB MUST BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS.

 

4GB/8GB, well, if you play on 1080p you're probably good, for the moment, with an 4gb version. 8gb is much more futureproof and can lead to some better performance in selected games. If the price difference isn't huge, go for the best.

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2 minutes ago, revsilverspine said:

RX580 8 gig. 10-12% better than the 1060 6 gig and it has 2 extra gig of vram

How about vs RX 570 8GB? or 4GB? is it worth it the extra 4GB VRAM?

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2 minutes ago, iwant.luffy said:

How about vs RX 570 8GB? or 4GB? is it worth it the extra 4GB VRAM?

No it isn't if you're going to play in 1080p mainly the card processing chip will be obsolete before the 4gb VRAM is not enough therefore getting 8gb VRAM just for gaming is pointless with a "low to mid" end card, as you'll have to change the GPU before you reach the VRAM limitation any ways.

 

2 minutes ago, iwant.luffy said:

Nice suggestion sir thanks

Any time! the GTX 980 is actually faster than both if you can find a good pricing it is the best pick, which might happen since crypto miners don't like Maxwell cards for mining.

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1 minute ago, iwant.luffy said:

How about vs RX 570 8GB? or 4GB? is it worth it the extra 4GB VRAM?

I'll stick to the 580. 570 is under that and under the 1060.

The extra price from 4 gig to 8 gig shouldn't be too much and moar is better, specially if you don't intend to change the card for a couple of years

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1 minute ago, revsilverspine said:

I'll stick to the 580. 570 is under that and under the 1060.

The extra price from 4 gig to 8 gig shouldn't be too much and moar is better, specially if you don't intend to change the card for a couple of years

Yeah i dont intend to change my gpu for years hahahaha i think ill go for that. But the 2nd hand GTX 980 is good too

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2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

No it isn't if you're going to play in 1080p mainly the card processing chip will be obsolete before the 4gb VRAM is not enough therefore getting 8gb VRAM just for gaming is pointless with a "low to mid" end card, as you'll have to change the GPU before you reach the VRAM limitation any ways.

 

Any time! the GTX 980 is actually faster than both if you can find a good pricing it is the best pick, which might happen since crypto miners don't like Maxwell cards for mining.

That's my point sir :) Maybe I dont need the extra 4VRAM for gaming in a solo monitor. But intend to buy a 2nd monitor, does the VRAM help? And i'll try to hunt a 2nd hand GTX 980 for a good price. 

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3 minutes ago, iwant.luffy said:

That's my point sir :) Maybe I dont need the extra 4VRAM for gaming in a solo monitor. But intend to buy a 2nd monitor, does the VRAM help? And i'll try to hunt a 2nd hand GTX 980 for a good price. 

Extra VRAM will only help on a second monitor if you are doing something graphics intensive on the second monitor. If you just have extra windows open then no, but if you have a video or a video chat then maybe - depends on the application and how it uses the video. 

 

What I found extra VRAM good for was higher resolution, I run modded games and adding texture packs at or above the resolution of your monitor when the game doesn't directly support it eats VRAM. On a highly modded Skyrim I can use 3-4GB or more of VRAM for textures plus what the game itself uses.

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8 minutes ago, iwant.luffy said:

But intend to buy a 2nd monitor, does the VRAM help?

Yes a 2nd monitor will use more VRAM but not as much as you think, VRAM in the gaming world what would weight is high resolutions and high texture mod packs like for instance play Skyrim at 4k with 4k texture mod packs, for normal gaming at 1080p, with a second monitor with say a movie going on is not going to weight all that much and 4gb of vram still is plenty.

 

Large amounts of VRAM are more helpful for CUDA Acceleration and Video content creation orientated builds, like using Adobe Premiere or Sony Vegas.

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7 minutes ago, AncientNerd said:

Extra VRAM will only help on a second monitor if you are doing something graphics intensive on the second monitor. If you just have extra windows open then no, but if you have a video or a video chat then maybe - depends on the application and how it uses the video. 

 

What I found extra VRAM good for was higher resolution, I run modded games and adding texture packs at or above the resolution of your monitor when the game doesn't directly support it eats VRAM. On a highly modded Skyrim I can use 3-4GB or more of VRAM for textures plus what the game itself uses.

 

7 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Yes a 2nd monitor will use more VRAM but not as much as you think, VRAM in the gaming world what would weight is high resolutions and high texture mod packs like for instance play Skyrim at 4k with 4k texture mod packs, for normal gaming at 1080p, with a second monitor with say a movie going on is not going to weight all that much and 4gb of vram still is plenty.

I SEE A RX 580 8GB Sale for $276 dollars. Here in the philippines 

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3 minutes ago, iwant.luffy said:

 

I SEE A RX 580 8GB Sale for $800 dollars. Here in the philippines 

I mean $276

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2 minutes ago, iwant.luffy said:

 

I SEE A RX 580 8GB Sale for $800 dollars. Here in the philippines 

What's the Price of a GTX1080ti? $800 sounds really close to what we would pay for one of those here in the States. (if that was USD ^_^)

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Just now, iwant.luffy said:

I mean $276

Ah I see that makes more sense!

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Just now, AncientNerd said:

What's the Price of a GTX1080ti? $800 sounds really close to what we would pay for one of those here in the States. (if that was USD ^_^)

I converted it in Mexican peso hahaha the real price is $276

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15 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

No it isn't if you're going to play in 1080p mainly the card processing chip will be obsolete before the 4gb VRAM is not enough therefore getting 8gb VRAM just for gaming is pointless with a "low to mid" end card, as you'll have to change the GPU before you reach the VRAM limitation any ways.

I know it depends quite a bit on the game and the settings, but I routinely use 6+ GB vram with my 480 on 1080p.  I haven't ran the same games with the same settings on a 4GB card so I'm not really sure if it's a case of "if you have it it'll use it" but the 8GB will certainly last longer.  Especially if you ever upgrade your monitor.

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9 hours ago, Mr Ben said:

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That is because games will reserve more vram than it needs to use, I have played Call of Duty Infinity Warfare on my TITAN X and the "used vram" was 10.2gb, does it means that a GTX 1080 with its 8gb can't play the game? course not it just means the engine reserves vram for faster access by a % of the cards total available vram, so if you have more vram it will reserve more it's simple logic.

 

4gbs is still enough to whatever game you want to play especially at 1080p and no the 8gb will not last longer, by the time you might actually need more VRAM the GPU chip by itself will be too weak any ways and you need a new card.

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