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Basically, I want to measure the amount of power my GTX 1070 is using in watts.

if the TDP is 150W, and it's using 112% of power target, is it just using 150 * 1.12 Watts? (so 173 Watts?) or is more complicated then that.

 

basically, what software can I use /  how do I figure out my GPU power usage.

 

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There is no particular sensor that I know of that measures power draw, however you can use afterburner as a crude example. Forgive me, but I don't remember the draw for the 1070 under full load (we'll just say 150w), however since that is considered the 100 percent power limit we know that is 150w, if the power limit is 50 we can assume it uses about 75 watts

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2 minutes ago, Trekt Nation said:

There is no particular sensor that I know of that measures power draw, however you can use afterburner as a crude example. Forgive me, but I don't remember the draw for the 1070 under full load (we'll just say 150w), however since that is considered the 100 percent power limit we know that is 150w, if the power limit is 50 we can assume it uses about 75 watts

So if I set the power limit to 90%, it uses 90% of the 150W TDP? (so 135W)

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6 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Basically, I want to measure the amount of power my GTX 1070 is using in watts.

if the TDP is 150W, and it's using 112% of power target, is it just using 150 * 1.12 Watts? (so 173 Watts?) or is more complicated then that.

 

basically, what software can I use /  how do I figure out my GPU power usage.

 

I would use an external power meter. Run the PC without the GPU. Record the power usage with the CPU running a stress test. Then put the GPU back in and put both the CPU and GPU under full load and compare numbers. If you had a corsair link compatible PSU it would be easy. Not the best but would give you an idea

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Just now, RadiatingLight said:

So if I set the power limit to 90%, it uses a max of the TDP? (so 135W)

In theory, yeah!

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7 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

So if I set the power limit to 90%, it uses 90% of the 150W TDP? (so 135W)

No, TDP = how much heat the GPU puts out not how much power it consumes.

 

Also, it is more complicated than just looking at the Power Target usage.

It comes down to what voltage the GPU is running at the moment (that affects the power consumption the most), what kind of workload is the GPU doing and at what clocks.

You may have the same clocks and voltage but different workload and the power consumption will be different.

Also, power consumption is dependent on temperature. Higher temperature = less efficiency = more power consumption.

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1 minute ago, WereCat said:

 

No, TDP = how much heat the GPU puts out not how much power it consumes.

 

Also, it is more complicated than just looking at the Power Target usage.

It comes down to what voltage the GPU is running at the moment (that affects the power consumption the most), what kind of workload is the GPU doing and at what clocks.

You may have the same clocks and voltage but different workload and the power consumption will be different.

Dammit, it's too complicated.

 

in theory, isn't TDP roughly GPU power consumption? since electricity >> heat in the conversion?

 

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1 minute ago, WereCat said:

 

No, TDP = how much heat the GPU puts out not how much power it consumes.

 

Also, it is more complicated than just looking at the Power Target usage.

It comes down to what voltage the GPU is running at the moment (that affects the power consumption the most), what kind of workload is the GPU doing and at what clocks.

You may have the same clocks and voltage but different workload and the power consumption will be different.

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Just now, RadiatingLight said:

Dammit, it's too complicated.

 

in theory, isn't TDP roughly GPU power consumption? since electricity >> heat in the conversion?

 

In theory, yes. But you have to take into account the temperatures since at higher temperatures you get more leakage and less efficiency which results in more power consumption.

 

Pascal is very efficient and there are many sensors near the core that can measure the power consumption up to the margin of an error. However, you would have to do that with multimeter as I am not aware of any software that takes advantage of these sensors.

Another thing is that this may not account for the other components on the PCB like VRAM power consumption, VRM efficiency, a power consumption of fans, LED, etc...

 

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TDP stands for Thermal Design Power and DOES NOT EQUAL POWER CONSUMPTION.

 

To get a rough idea of what kind of consumption a GPU will have, check the manufacturer's website. 98% of the time they will give you a rough estimate of power draw (and suggest a minimum PSU for the system).

 

Figuring out the power draw of an overclocked card isn't something easy or accurate (unless you have custom tools to do that, which very few prosumers have). If the card pulls, say, 100W total, a 115% power target might be roughly 115W, but not necessarily.

Afterburner has an option to show power draw, but that's from doing the math (internally) on voltages and amperage, resulting in an estimate power draw (I say estimate because voltages and amperage can vary wildly from one moment to the other and the calculation isn't being done realtime, rather, it is done every x <insert unit of time here>)

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4 minutes ago, revsilverspine said:

Afterburner has an option to show power draw

Where!?!

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Where!?!

Not sure off the top of my head, but it should be somewhere in the OSD display options list

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hwinfo probably can show you power draw of every component afaik

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Just now, 19_blackie_73 said:

hwinfo probably can show you power draw of every component afaik

It doesn't for NVIDIA GPUs.

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6 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Where!?!

The first option in Monitoring tab

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Personally, I just guess the maximum power draw by looking at the PCIe connectors on reference cards.

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28 minutes ago, WereCat said:

It doesn't for NVIDIA GPUs.

on my 970 it did for sure....

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23 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Personally, I just guess the maximum power draw by looking at the PCIe connectors on reference cards.

Nope, not even close.

GPUs rarely, if ever, reach max power draw.

think of a GTX 1080 with dual 8-pins.

no way that baby takes 375W at stock speeds.

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29 minutes ago, WereCat said:

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that's hwmonitor.

I'm talking about HWiNFO: https://www.hwinfo.com/

and it works as you can see:

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I don't have any idea how accurate this is though.

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2 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

that's hwmonitor.

I'm talking about HWiNFO: https://www.hwinfo.com/

and it works as you can see:

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I don't have any idea how accurate this is though.

Ah, I will try that one.

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So it looks like it is working. How accurate it is, don't know. But I would guess it is quite accurate if it is using the sensors near the GPU core.

 

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@WereCat @RadiatingLight

for the record and back to your original question: the 970 is a 150W TDP card.

Mine uses in GTA V stock 173W, but it is a g1 gaming running factory overclocked out of the box 1366MHz which is already pretty good.

I can overclock mine to about 1492 MHz stable in GTA V, while running +50mV on the core, 112% power limit and +300MHz on the ram. In this config it has a max power draw according to hwinfo of 196W, which is 13% more. But I'm not anywhere near the official power limit of the card, i only use 70% of what the card is capable off according to msi afterburner. And simpy increasing the power limit won't use more power if everything else stays the same.

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1 hour ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

@WereCat @RadiatingLight

for the record and back to your original question: the 970 is a 150W TDP card.

Mine uses in GTA V stock 173W, but it is a g1 gaming running factory overclocked out of the box 1366MHz which is already pretty good.

I can overclock mine to about 1492 MHz stable in GTA V, while running +50mV on the core, 112% power limit and +300MHz on the ram. In this config it has a max power draw according to hwinfo of 196W, which is 13% more. But I'm not anywhere near the official power limit of the card, i only use 70% of what the card is capable off according to msi afterburner. And simpy increasing the power limit won't use more power if everything else stays the same.

I would say it does match.

1080ti is 250W TDP (FE with 1582MHz boost clock).

 

My card boosts to 2038MHz with a +700MHz offset on VRAM as well. After playing Witcher 3 for an hour I spiked to a 334W max. Usually, I stayed at around 290W-310W.

127% power limit. 1.062V max.

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