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2 questions:

 

1] On amazon the MSI Gaming X RX 580 says that it is for pre order, do you know when they will be released,

2] Is 200-250 pounds good for a 580?

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I believe all RX 580's are sold out, who knows when they'll come back in stock.  

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1 minute ago, Lil Loki said:

2 questions:

 

1] On amazon the MSI Gaming X RX 580 says that it is for pre order, do you know when they will be released,

2] Is 200-250 pounds good for a 580?

Get GTX 1060 and avoid MSi.

It is currently mining season so all RX 580's are sold out.

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Just now, domandric034 said:

and avoid MSi.

MSI graphics cards are fantastic. 

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Just now, domandric034 said:

Get GTX 1060 and avoid MSi.

It is currently mining season so all RX 580's are sold out.

Why avoid msi, and what 1060 should i chose?

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1 minute ago, domandric034 said:

and avoid MSi

Why? They make one of the best coolers out there. 

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1 minute ago, Lil Loki said:

Why avoid msi, and what 1060 should i chose?

Shitty customer support, shitty thermal solution, shitty material.

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Why? They make one of the best coolers out there. 

Shitty customer support, shitty thermal solution, shitty material.

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1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

Why? They make one of the best coolers out there. 

They also have the best power delivery components with them been  MIL-STD-810G certified. 

1 hour ago, domandric034 said:

Shitty customer support, shitty thermal solution, shitty material.

Nonsense absolute nonsense. 

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Just now, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

They also have the best power delivery components with them been  MIL-STD-810G certified. 

My MSI R9 380 has been through a lot. 

 

Bad memory OCs (with burning computer smell), dirty power, shorts, black outs, rolling power fluctuations. Its survived everything. Would be hard pressed to risk buying another brand tbh. 

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10 minutes ago, Lil Loki said:

Why avoid msi, and what 1060 should i chose?

dont listen to him, msi makes great cards, and the 580 is better than the 1060. its worth the wait imo

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3 minutes ago, Nickathom said:

its worth the wait imo

agreed

 

They will be in-stock soon. 

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56 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Nonsense absolute nonsense. 

Then explain me 4 dead mobos out of the box. I will give you list of chipsets cause I don't remember the models :

1. Hudson A75 (Owned and RMA'd with GA-A75M-UD2H)

2. 990FX (My brother built himself PC few years ago, he was so pissed off with mobo quality and that was dead out of the box)

3. H81 (When I built server for company)

4. Z170 (When I upgraded my rig this year)

 

Then explain 7 dead GPU out of the box :

1. HD 3650 (Owned)

2. HD 6450 (Owned)

3. R7 260X (Owned)

4. GTX 970 (Owned & RMA'd with R9 390)

5. R9 390 (Owned & RMA'd with GTX 970 again from ASUS this time)

6. GTX 1070 (When I built PC for my friend)

7. GTX 1050 Ti (When I build PC for my girlfriend)

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3 minutes ago, domandric034 said:

Then explain 7 dead GPU out of the box :

1. HD 3650 (Owned)

2. HD 6450 (Owned)

3. R7 260X (Owned)

4. GTX 970 (Owned & RMA'd with R9 390)

5. R9 390 (Owned & RMA'd with GTX 970 again from ASUS this time)

6. GTX 1070 (When I built PC for my friend)

7. GTX 1050 Ti (When I build PC for my girl friend)

What are these (Owned) things you are placing at the end of these GPUs?

 

MSI has never let me down and I will most likely buy my next GPU from them. 

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Just now, domandric034 said:

I hate MSi with a passion

Well do then but please don't come on here spreading absolute nonsense. 

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1 minute ago, domandric034 said:

I hate MSi with a passion after those amazing products and days spent RMA'ing it.

Feels bad man, but nobody else has had this experience. 

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1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

What are these (Owned) things you are placing at the end of these GPUs?

 

MSI has never let me down and I will most likely buy my next GPU from them. 

These were used and sent to scrapyard. I use currently my new rig for work. Soon replacing with Xeon Gold or Platinum.

1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

Feels bad man, but nobody else has had this experience. 

I hope nobody will live like me and my friends through this MSi nightmare (now no offense)

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1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

So you are going to blame MSI for you buying used hardware? 

I didn't buy used [...]. I bought it in IT shop in capital of my country. I live in village [...].

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Personally speaking I second that MSi should be avoided, they are a lot more about intensive gaming marketing than actual quality and their costumers service is simply AWFUL in south america, like the worse there is.

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lmao you can't say "avoid x company at all costs" and then call everyone who asks for a reason for this random outburst a fanboy xD

 

I've had good experiences with MSI so far, with Maxwell and Pascal.

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1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

 

Which one? 

All of them. I do not buy used shit. 

 

And if I bought it will be twice more expensive cause of taxes.

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1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

than actual quality

Well I mean MSI uses some of the best parts available so.......

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2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Personally speaking I second that MSi should be avoided, they are a lot more about intensive gaming marketing than actual quality and their costumers service is simply AWFUL in south america, like the worse there is.

I personally have had great experiences with MSI, so therefore it is good. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Well I mean MSI uses some of the best parts available so.......

According to whom? MSi themselves? I would never pick it over Asus or EVGA but I'm not here to start a discussion, let's keep it simple for the thread's sake, some people dislike the brand for their reasons and that is every one's right, we're not even arguing which rx580 should OP buy since there's none available right now to begin with and if I had to advise a rx580 to someone it would be the Sapphire Nitro+ but that isn't because I'm anti-MSi Gaming X more about just preferring that other offering instead out of my personal experience with hardware.

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4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Personally speaking I second that MSi should be avoided, they are a lot more about intensive gaming marketing than actual quality and their costumers service is simply AWFUL in south america, like the worse there is.

That actual material quality

 msi-geforce-gtx-1070-aero-oc-graphics-card-18.jpg.081b8735978f4dc1d1bfe63d8fba7a83.jpg 

And they call that fantastic material + copy paste of Founders Edition but with shitty brand, shitty build materials, shitty thermal solution... I can talk about it day or two xD

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3 minutes ago, domandric034 said:

That actual material quality

 msi-geforce-gtx-1070-aero-oc-graphics-card-18.jpg.081b8735978f4dc1d1bfe63d8fba7a83.jpg 

And they call that fantastic material + copy paste of Founders Edition but with shitty brand, shitty build materials, shitty thermal solution... I can talk about it day or two xD

Cherry picking to the f*cking maximum. 

 

Tell me this is crap

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