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Stupid Storage Drives (SSD?)

Santley88
By Santley88
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I am in the process of building a mixed use PC. Some gaming and content creation. I understand the idea behind having an SSD for OS and Critical Apps and HDD for file storage, etc... I had this idea that I would like to run by the community to get your thoughts. First, since this is usually the first question asked, budget is not too much of an issue. I don't want to get stupid, but I don't have too many cost constraints.

Plan: 2 x 1TB SSD in some RAID configuration for OS and Critical Files and and scratch drive working space(Win 10, Office, Adobe CC, etc...) With a 4 drive HDD Raid Array for Data. This seems somewhat extreme, so thought that I would see what you all thought.

Thanks

Sam

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6 minutes ago, Santley88 said:

For the SSD, I was thinking 1-2 TB.  For the HDD, I was thinking 4x4+TB.  Setup as RAID 5

well for the ssd, id just get one and make backups, ssds don't fail very often and raid for boot is a pain and id stay away from it. Backups are much better at protecting your data.

 

Raid 5 is fine for the hdd, but id use storage spaces in windows or btrfs in linux and no mobo raid. Motherboard raid sucks.

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I have 1x 500GB 850 EVO, 6x 3TB Seagates, and then a revolving door of a slim-line BluRay Drive, 500GB 850 EVO #2, and 120GB 840 EVO on my computer at home.  Honestly with the HDDs in a RAID 10 (Striped Mirror) they're almost as fast as a lower-tier SSD (350ish MB/s Read and Write), so I just use the SSD for OS and base applications, while most my games and media stay on the RAID.

 

As well as a backup of my SSD. I keep a 500GB partition of the RAID locked away for SSD backups.  Plan to do the same when I get an external HDD for my new laptop.

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Just now, Kumaresh said:

Many modern RAID implementations are quite good. A single SSD would definitely be preferable.

don't use motherboard raid, use storage spaces over that.

 

Hardware raid is good, but motherboard raid isn't hardware raid.

 

Software raid can be better at protection data as it can correct bitrot.

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I'm going single 512gb NVMe SSD for boot and most applications, and will be experimenting with using the 6TB RAID 5 array on my server for mass storage rather than just putting a big drive in it.

 

If it ends up having crappy access times, I'll probably end up throwing a cheap sata m.2 drive in it at a later date.

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14 hours ago, Kumaresh said:

Many modern RAID implementations are quite good. A single SSD would definitely be preferable.

Consumer motherboard raid isn't raid, it's hybrid raid and is rubbish for 1. Causing problems and 2. Disaster Recovery. LTT members don't let LTT fam use mobo raid. 

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19 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

don't use motherboard raid, use storage spaces over that.

 

Hardware raid is good, but motherboard raid isn't hardware raid.

 

Software raid can be better at protection data as it can correct bitrot.

 

I use a hybrid Storage Spaces + Disk Management for my RAID 10. I believe I have my six drives mirrored in Disk Management, and Striped in Storage Spaces, but that was out of convenience because my mobo RAID simply didn't work - I couldn't get it to initialize.

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2 hours ago, CerberusLabrat said:

 

I use a hybrid Storage Spaces + Disk Management for my RAID 10. I believe I have my six drives mirrored in Disk Management, and Striped in Storage Spaces, but that was out of convenience because my mobo RAID simply didn't work - I couldn't get it to initialize.

thats bad dont do that,

 

use only storage space, disk mangement raid is bad.

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Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

thats bad dont do that,

 

use only storage space, disk mangement raid is bad.

 

I mean, you can't do nested RAID with just Storage Spaces.

 

At least, you couldn't when I set this system up.

 

I might just backup all my stuff to the 2TB this weekend and rebuild it as a striped pair and two mirrored pairs in Storage Spaces. With the mirrors as backup for the stripes? Not sure.  Been wanting to play around with it.

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2 minutes ago, CerberusLabrat said:

 

I mean, you can't do nested RAID with just Storage Spaces.

 

At least, you couldn't when I set this system up.

 

I might just backup all my stuff to the 2TB this weekend and rebuild it as a striped pair and two mirrored pairs in Storage Spaces. With the mirrors as backup for the stripes? Not sure.  Been wanting to play around with it.

Just put all the drives in storage spaces and make a mirrored volume, nested raid is how you lose data.

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