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Which MaBook For Graphic Design?

So my father owns his own consulting/marketing business and purely uses apple products for their graphic design and video editing. Currently he has a handful of iMac's and one MacBook Pro. The iMac's are holding up fine (they're 2014 and newer I believe) but his MacBook (2010 or 20122 I believe) can no longer keep up and he needs a new one. 

 

They use FinalCut on the iMacs but never on the MacBook, I think the only time he would use FinalCut on the MacBook is if he had to while on business or other special circumstances. 

 

Other programs used are Photoshop and possibly other adobe products in the future. They have multiple programs running at the same time almost all the time. 

 

So the question is, what MacBook is the best choice for price to performance for their needs. Needs to be the 15", doesn't matter what year, IO differences are less important (i.e. the fact that the newest MacBook only utilizes thunderbolt)

 

Thanks in advance!

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The 2015 Model does not have a dGPU so if you want one direct from Apple your only cheapest option is this:

 

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MLH32LL/A&step=config# 

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7 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

you could get a used one 

that is why I said from Apple. Unless you mean a fefurb. 

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22 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

2015 15 inches with a DGPU is the last pro MacBook that existed. 

yeah if they made that with a DGPU it would be perfect. 

 

Any opinions on which variant of the i7? 

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20 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

The 2015 Model does not have a dGPU so if you want one direct from Apple your only cheapest option is this:

 

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MLH32LL/A&step=config# 

I was looking at that... I just have a tough time going with the newest MBP. The touch bar won't be used, and it seems like it might be a poor value. 

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18 minutes ago, sauce-c said:

yeah if they made that with a DGPU it would be perfect. 

 

Any opinions on which variant of the i7? 

 

look in amazon 

 

16 minutes ago, sauce-c said:

I was looking at that... I just have a tough time going with the newest MBP. The touch bar won't be used, and it seems like it might be a poor value. 

 

usb type c TB is really useless for now, it will take a minimum of 5 to 10 years before it becomes standardize. 

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1 hour ago, nerdslayer1 said:

look in amazon 

 

usb type c TB is really useless for now, it will take a minimum of 5 to 10 years before it becomes standardize. 

That is a lie. Thunderbolt 3 is the best single connector solution on the market. 

 

It is already a standard as far as Thunderbolt goes. 

 

It can be adapted out to literally everything, so it doesn't matter if things don't specifically use Thunderbolt. 

 

Do not forget because its the USB-C connector the MBP is already ready for a fully USB-C world. 

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9 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

That is a lie. Thunderbolt 3 is the best single connector solution on the market. 

 

It is already a standard as far as Thunderbolt goes. 

 

It can be adapted out to literally everything, so it doesn't matter if things don't specifically use Thunderbolt. 

 

Do not forget because its the USB-C connector the MBP is already ready for a fully USB-C world. 

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nope, not in the pro world. people want things that work not gimmicks, the new MacBooks are not exactly designed for the pro market.

 

10 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Do not forget because its the USB-C connector the MBP is already ready for a fully USB-C world. 

yup that 10 people who have usb type c stuff for it, OP will be using it as a pro for that reason i suggest an older macbook that has better battery life and fewer glitches. as a facebook machine, the new MacBook pro is the best machine in the world. i used a late 2016 MacBook pro 15 inch with a Dgpu, my experiences were same as this guy. 

 

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1 hour ago, nerdslayer1 said:

better battery life and fewer glitches

These "issues" don't actually exist. 

 

Possibly some touchbar bugs but they have all been mostly sorted out. 

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4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

These "issues" don't actually exist. 

 

 

existed for me

 

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Possibly some touchbar bugs but they have all been mostly sorted out. 

for a mac that's pathetic paying over 3k for a machine that needs sorting out. touch bar is not really worth getting, keyboard shortcuts are very important, touch bar ruins that. 

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39 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

keyboard shortcuts are very important,

The TouchBar does not remove the ability to have shortcuts, if anything it expands the fnbars functionality by having it be able to actually change what is displayed on it. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

The TouchBar does not remove the ability to have shortcuts, if anything it expands the fnbars functionality by having it be able to actually change what is displayed on it. 

 

no.... pressing a physical button is much better than having to look down. the function bar is still very unreliable. 

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40 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

existed for me

which is unfortunate because from what I can tell there haven't been any real issues.

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Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

pressing a physical button is much better than having to look down

That is your opinion.

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

which is unfortunate because from what I can tell there haven't been any real issues.

do you use the 15 inch with the maxed out spec? 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

That is your opinion.

and opinions of every pro that uses it, from Dave lee, Linus, Mkbhd, Quinn and many others. 

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1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

do you use the 15 inch with the maxed out spec? 

No. From what I have experienced you have to look down anyway to hit a MacBooks fn keys because they are so small. So your point of convince of not having to look down doesn't actually hold up. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

No. From what I have experienced you have to look down anyway to hit a MacBooks fn keys because they are so small. So your point of convince doesn't actually hold up. 

 

how? so mechanical keyboards are slower to type than a ipad? 

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1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

so mechanical keyboards are slower to type than a ipad

I never said that, nor could anything I typed be interpreted as me saying that. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

I never said that, nor could anything I typed be interpreted as me saying that. 

so do you do any pro work? 

 

4 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

Dave lee, Linus, Mkbhd, Quinn

these people had the same experience as me. 

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Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

so do you do any pro work?

Photoshop, Premier, and InDesign 

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Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

these people had the same experience as me

Ok? And?

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