1.375v Stock Voltage on 1600X?

[Emberstone]

So I just finished putting together my R5-1600X build and went into the BIOS. I saw the voltage on my CPU was somewhere between 1.35 and 1.4v out of the box at stock settings.

 

I do not plan on overclocking. Is the stock voltage supposed to be around the auto setting of 1.375v? Or do I need to adjust it down?

 

Mobo is an Asus Prime B350 Plus. I'm assuming that the "VDDCR CPU Voltage" is the standard voltage I'm used to, and that's what seems to be out of whack.

[WereCat]

It is fine, you can't compare it to Intel voltages as this is different architecture.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

Check the different Ryzen overclocking videos out there to see how vcore is called in different BIOS, I'm not sure it is that one.

In any case, many of those OC guides stop at 1.375v, so I find it surprisingly high for stock voltage.

[Simon771]

Well with that voltage you should be able to get around 4GHz on all cores. So for stock it might seem a bit high.

It's still safe voltage, but you could get more juice out of it.

[jboonstra]

Hey dude, I just installed my 1600X and I have the exact same problems. I'm also idling at around 40 celcius on stock speed. 1.375 seems a bit high to me, it doesn't seem to be the stock voltage when I google it. Also, my peaks are even higher than 1.375 (idling).

 

Are my sensors messed up or this CPU a bad one?

[Emberstone]

24 minutes ago, jboonstra said:

Hey dude, I just installed my 1600X and I have the exact same problems. I'm also idling at around 40 celcius on stock speed. 1.375 seems a bit high to me, it doesn't seem to be the stock voltage when I google it. Also, my peaks are even higher than 1.375 (idling).

 

Are my sensors messed up or this CPU a bad one?

It seems to me that some mobos just have jacked stock voltage. Just keep decreasing it until you're unstable, then bump it back up to find your lowest stable voltage.

 

That's what I did. At stock frequencies and 1.28v, I play games around 40-45 C.

[jboonstra]

It might be software related https://hardforum.com/threads/ryzen-cpu-temps.1926291/

[Emberstone]

13 minutes ago, jboonstra said:

It might be software related https://hardforum.com/threads/ryzen-cpu-temps.1926291/

Make certain to measure your temps using Ryzen Master. Because of that strange 20 degree offset, it provides the most accurate temps.

 

Thats what I use to measure my temps while gaming and such.

[Cheddle]

Update your BIOS to the latest version...

 

my r7 1700 gets 3.8ghz @ 1.31v - your voltage is high but definitly safe. Ive run 1.38v on a stock cooler (my boards max) with no problems at all. temps below 75c

[jboonstra]

Updating the BIOS is the first thing I did, won't change it. If I actually had the voltages going over my cpu that my bios shows it'd be dead already (peaks over 1.5). I'm just gonna wait for an update.

[jjohnthedon1]

7 hours ago, jboonstra said:

Hey dude, I just installed my 1600X and I have the exact same problems. I'm also idling at around 40 celcius on stock speed. 1.375 seems a bit high to me, it doesn't seem to be the stock voltage when I google it. Also, my peaks are even higher than 1.375 (idling).

 

Are my sensors messed up or this CPU a bad one?

Iv seen videos with ryzen hitting 1.5 at stock under Xfr boost on the 1800x 

 

you can probly lower your voltage as that's just to make sure all the chips boot up 

 

the general consensus is that 1.45 is ok on water 

 

[jboonstra]

You don't think it is weird for *stock* voltages being this high though? I am seriously wondering if I have a different stock voltage than others

[Morlok]

First sorry for my bad english It is not only you. I have problems with B350 Prime Plus Plus from 3 weeks and now i think it was bad idea to change my i5 - 7500 to r5 1600. My stock voltage now somethimes hits 1,485V. Near the option to change CPU voltage in bios it shows 1,23 V. In BF1 many fps drops, freezes and slow downs for near a minute. Tested with different psus, hdds, memory (brands,frequency,timings). Still the same. My RX480 Nitro was constant 60fps with i5 and the same 2x8 GB crucial ballistix sport LT 2400 Mhz. I will get rid of it. Here where i live computer parts are not cheap.Just dont have money to be guinea pig .

[jboonstra]

3 hours ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

 Iv seen videos with ryzen hitting 1.5 at stock under Xfr boost on the 1800x 

 

you can probly lower your voltage as that's just to make sure all the chips boot up 

 

the general consensus is that 1.45 is ok on water 

 

 

I've tried that, I've lowered the voltage but going under 1.30 won't even let it boot.

 

Seriously regret buying an AMD CPU, you have no idea how hard it was to actually boot this pc in the first place (had to go out and buy low speed mem in order to actually boot my mobo so I could flash it, wouldn't accept my RAM otherwise even though they were on the VQL), and now I have insane temps and voltages while I'm not even OC'ing yet.

 

People told me to ignore the temps "because they are set that way so the fans react to that and work harder" I mean come on, lol. I still have no clue what the stock voltage is, but the internet tells me it is MUCH lower than 1.375.

 

Should I just return this chip?

[jjohnthedon1]

11 minutes ago, jboonstra said:

 

I've tried that, I've lowered the voltage but going under 1.30 won't even let it boot.

 

Seriously regret buying an AMD CPU, you have no idea how hard it was to actually boot this pc in the first place (had to go out and buy low speed mem in order to actually boot my mobo so I could flash it, wouldn't accept my RAM otherwise), and now I have insane temps and voltages while I'm not even OC'ing yet.

 

People told me to ignore the temps "because they are set that way so the fans react to that and work harder" I mean come on, lol. I still have no clue what the stock voltage is, but the internet tells me it is MUCH lower than 1.375.

 

Should I just return this chip?

Ok go into bios and manually set your voltage to 1.3 not on a offset or auto but a constant voltage of 1.3 that way no programs or Xfr can mess with it 

 

then test your chip,

if you have a x series chip they have a hard delta of 20 degrees so what ever it says take off 20. 

 

To monitor your voltage forget forget ryzen master if that's what ur using because it's broken for monitoring r5 series chip right now get cpuid hardware monitor 

 

also so if you can post some pics of in the bios we can make sure ur messing with the right voltage 

 

i know now it's super frustrating getting new hardware working but we can help you get there dude 

 

also the stock voltage on the x chips and r7 chips is 1.35 and Xfr boost is then pushing the chips voltage higher for short periods of time 

[jboonstra]

5 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

Ok go into bios and manually set your voltage to 1.3 not on a offset or auto but a constant voltage of 1.3 that way no programs or Xfr can mess with it 

 

then test your chip,

if you have a x series chip they have a hard delta of 20 degrees so what ever it says take off 20. 

 

To monitor your voltage forget forget ryzen master if that's what ur using because it's broken for monitoring r5 series chip right now get cpuid hardware monitor 

I have it on 1.3 now, which is the absolute minimum it will run at. I get around 38-39 degrees celcius idle like that, which is ok I guess. I'm just utterly confused, because people on the net tell me their stock voltage is set to much lower, although I can't confirm it. Which voltage was your 1600 running at? And thanks for the replies.

[HKman]

When I first booted my MSI B350 TOMAHAWK and 1600 combo the stock voltage was 1.3ish, after flashing to latest bios it was 1.45ish. I immediately took that down to 1.35 then OC'd to 3.8GHz and then lowered the voltage in 0.0125 increments until I was stable at 3.8, 1.3125.

[Jumper118]

12 minutes ago, jboonstra said:

 

I've tried that, I've lowered the voltage but going under 1.30 won't even let it boot.

 

Seriously regret buying an AMD CPU, you have no idea how hard it was to actually boot this pc in the first place (had to go out and buy low speed mem in order to actually boot my mobo so I could flash it, wouldn't accept my RAM otherwise even though they were on the VQL), and now I have insane temps and voltages while I'm not even OC'ing yet.

 

People told me to ignore the temps "because they are set that way so the fans react to that and work harder" I mean come on, lol. I still have no clue what the stock voltage is, but the internet tells me it is MUCH lower than 1.375.

 

Should I just return this chip?

Sounds pretty normal. Don't not see why you would return a cpu because you are a noob you might as well go buy a ps4 pro at that point 

[jjohnthedon1]

1 minute ago, jboonstra said:

I have it on 1.3 now, which is the absolute minimum it will run at. I get around 38-39 degrees celcius idle like that, which is ok I guess. I'm just utterly confused, because people on the net tell me their stock voltage is set to much lower, although I can't confirm it. Which voltage was your 1600 running at? And thanks for the replies.

I just edited my last comment with more info for you 

[jboonstra]

3 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

Sounds pretty normal. Don't not see why you would return a cpu because you are a noob you might as well go buy a ps4 pro at that point 

Yeah, I must be a noob for thinking my CPU reaching insane temperatures is critical. I mean in modern age, it's normal to accept faulty temperature levels, right?

[Jumper118]

5 minutes ago, jboonstra said:

I have it on 1.3 now, which is the absolute minimum it will run at. I get around 38-39 degrees celcius idle like that, which is ok I guess. I'm just utterly confused, because people on the net tell me their stock voltage is set to much lower, although I can't confirm it. Which voltage was your 1600 running at? And thanks for the replies.

Its depends on the cpu and motherboard. My 1500x idles at 1.45v but goes down to 1.265v under load. 1800x is more like 1.37v under load. 

[Jumper118]

5 minutes ago, jboonstra said:

Yeah, I must be a noob for thinking my CPU reaching insane temperatures is critical. I mean in modern age, it's normal to accept faulty temperature levels, right?

Its not faulty. All software has been developed for Intels cpus for 5 years so it's not surprising that not of it works with a brand new amd cpu. On top of that amd put a offset on x model cpus and tbh it doesn't actually matter what idle temps are because it's not going to overheat at idle. 

 

Its the load temps that matter. 

[jboonstra]

Just now, Jumper118 said:

Its not faulty. All software has been developed for Intels cpus for 5 years so it's not surprising that not of it works with a brand new amd cpu. On top of that amd put a offset on x model cpus and tbh it doesn't actually matter what idle temps are because it's not going to overheat at idle. 

 

Its the load temps that matter. 

Might be, but my voltage jumps over 2.1v idling all the time. It *probably* doesn't actually do that, I'm starting to think it's just faulty monitoring but it worried me.

[Jumper118]

12 minutes ago, jboonstra said:

Might be, but my voltage jumps over 2.1v idling all the time. It *probably* doesn't actually do that, I'm starting to think it's just faulty monitoring but it worried me.

Yes, if it was 2.1v it would be very dead even if it was for a split second on ambient cooling.  mine had a bug with cpuz for a while where it said it was constantly at 1.55v. I just ignore it and carried on because I know I have 1.4v set in the bios

[Morlok]

My problem is gone. Tur off SMT = no freezes in BF 1 O_O Any ideas ?