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Asus vs hwinfo...which voltage is right?

So i'm trying to overclock my 7700k, and am still just trying to lock in a manual voltage which can pass all my tests. The problem: I've got a few different values being shown for what my voltage actually is and I have no idea which is right.

 

I have a cpu ratio of 50 and 1.3v set in the bios (i dont expect this to be stable, the plan is to step up the voltage from here).

 

So HWiNFO64 is telling me that I am going up to ~1.26v max during occt, but it's also dipping down to .7v between occt attempts when the cpu sits idle (which I thought wouldn't happen with a manual vcore)

 

Asus AI suite III is telling me I have 1.296 cpu core voltage, no matter what my cpu ratio currently is (so even when the cpu is at idling speeds)

 

If you have a manual vcore set in the bios, will it still drop with the cpu during idle? I thought that was the whole point of adaptive mode? If it's going to lower the vcore anyway, why would you ever not use manual? It's been 6 years since I OCed the chip I just replaced, but I thought I remember not being able to get the manual vcore setting to throttle during idle, and could only get the flexible voltage via adaptive mode. 

Gaming build:

CPU: i7-7700k (5.0ghz, 1.312v)

GPU(s): Asus Strix 1080ti OC (~2063mhz)

Memory: 32GB (4x8) DDR4 G.Skill TridentZ RGB 3000mhz

Motherboard: Asus Prime z270-AR

PSU: Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W

Cooler: Custom water loop (420mm rad + 360mm rad)

Case: Be quiet! Dark base pro 900 (silver)
Primary storage: Samsung 960 evo m.2 SSD (500gb)

Secondary storage: Samsung 850 evo SSD (250gb)

 

Server build:

OS: Ubuntu server 16.04 LTS (though will probably upgrade to 17.04 for better ryzen support)

CPU: Ryzen R7 1700x

Memory: Ballistix Sport LT 16GB

Motherboard: Asrock B350 m4 pro

PSU: Corsair CX550M

Cooler: Cooler master hyper 212 evo

Storage: 2TB WD Red x1, 128gb OCZ SSD for OS

Case: HAF 932 adv

 

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another factor confusing me:

 

If i use AI suite 3 to manually change the voltage to 1.4, I dont see HWiNFO changing at all but i DO see a significant increase in temps, which tells me to be suspicious of HWiNFO, but then again where would it be getting the idle voltage numbers from? is it just making that up? I'm extremely confused and am not sure which value to use.

Gaming build:

CPU: i7-7700k (5.0ghz, 1.312v)

GPU(s): Asus Strix 1080ti OC (~2063mhz)

Memory: 32GB (4x8) DDR4 G.Skill TridentZ RGB 3000mhz

Motherboard: Asus Prime z270-AR

PSU: Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W

Cooler: Custom water loop (420mm rad + 360mm rad)

Case: Be quiet! Dark base pro 900 (silver)
Primary storage: Samsung 960 evo m.2 SSD (500gb)

Secondary storage: Samsung 850 evo SSD (250gb)

 

Server build:

OS: Ubuntu server 16.04 LTS (though will probably upgrade to 17.04 for better ryzen support)

CPU: Ryzen R7 1700x

Memory: Ballistix Sport LT 16GB

Motherboard: Asrock B350 m4 pro

PSU: Corsair CX550M

Cooler: Cooler master hyper 212 evo

Storage: 2TB WD Red x1, 128gb OCZ SSD for OS

Case: HAF 932 adv

 

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try a couple other programs like cpu-z and hwmonitor, sounds like asus is right though it's always good to check.  I've always had problems with either hwinfo or hwmonitor, one always works pretty good for me though depending on the PC

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